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ilmucche posted:I haven't seen 9 9 completely misuses Cena having him play the villain completely straight when he's a much better comedic actor.
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I think Cena pulls off a good jealous little brother energy. But def would like to see him having more fun in fast x.
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I just don’t buy Cena as Vin’s brother
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1521150052621717504 https://twitter.com/emmonvfx/status/1521132035511033856 https://twitter.com/Darragh_Scanlon/status/1521172908558671872 https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1521168625310310402 whydirt posted:I just don’t buy Cena as Vin’s brother The best parts are flashback young Vin Diesel looking absolutely nothing like F&F1 Vin Diesel. It's like a glimpse into an alternate casting reality. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 18:13 on May 2, 2022 |
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whydirt posted:I just don’t buy Cena as Vin’s brother Or Latino.
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Valve Steam Deck posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1521150052621717504 Best parts of the flashback are seeing Vin's young crew
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Louis is an interesting choice. Transporter films were fun action. But not a particular wild choice like some may have hoped. But I guess Lin already had a lot setup, so maybe only so much a new director can add.
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checkplease posted:Louis is an interesting choice. Transporter films were fun action. But not a particular wild choice like some may have hoped. But I guess Lin already had a lot setup, so maybe only so much a new director can add. Considering they were already filming for a week before Lin decided to peace out, I guarantee you that every set piece has been storyboarded and the CGI sequences have been pre-vizzed. There's not a ton of influence a newcomer can have at this point unless they scrap everything and push the movie back six months so Leterrier can figure new things out.
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checkplease posted:Louis is an interesting choice. Transporter films were fun action. But not a particular wild choice like some may have hoped. But I guess Lin already had a lot setup, so maybe only so much a new director can add.
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The main thing I remember about the car chases in The Transporter was that the first one was in Nice on some of the exact same streets used in Ronin, which was about a million times more excitingly shot and edited. So, yeah, not convinced he'll be up to Lin's level.
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I assume the main criteria they were looking for in a director was "available" since they were losing so much money from starting production and then shutting down.
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These are wild times for the saga. We need this movie (and 11) to be glorious. They can't mess this up. Lou could do. On Vin being difficult and a weirdo, this is the secret sauce of the franchise. Sometimes you need an oddball maniac to make a saga as good as the saga. Random example, Michael Douglas mentioned that Debra Winger bit him in the 80s, she's a biter, and he considers her a character. Though he chose not to work with her for that reason. But still. She was doing some great work at the time! That said, it really sucks that he made things unpleasant for Justin. Hopefully somebody gives that guy the keys to a great new action series. Just for the record on the Daily News thing linked, that's a tabloid and doesn't have a quote from Justin etc. Also, I wonder what Justin remaining on as a producer will entail. On the new director, I wonder how much of this franchise is a machine in place like with a TV series. Do they have regular second unit directors, DP, etc, I haven't checked that out. I heard Sam Raimi on a podcast talking about when he did second unit for the Coens on Hudsucker Proxy, second unit work seems unsung and interesting. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 23:47 on May 2, 2022 |
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Maybe they should have just got a small time director that Vin could just ghost direct.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/justin-lin-fast-10-breaking-point-vin-diesel-1235139195/ Hollywood Reporter article on how Lin quitting came to be.
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That’s a really interesting article. Sounds like a combination of factors led to the Lin exit and shows how big the movies are getting. - studio demanding rewrites still after a locked script - location changes due to Ukraine - Vin being bossy and annoying and a big fight with him. - increased pressure as budget approaches 300 million with much tied up in cost of actors - film becoming more important for Universal financials The article also says that Lin quit in the heat of the moment, but studio took it seriously immediately. Did they want him out? Or maybe just weird article wording?
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Why do they care about 300m when this movie is going to make like twice that
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Well the typical way of estimating the budget is to take the production budget and double it. So using that, guestimating how much a 300m dollar budget would have to make to turn a profit would be something close to a billion. And yeah even with the film being a big blockbuster franchise tentpole entry that's still a pretty tall order.
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For one thing, Fast 9 only made about 700 million, a major decline from Fate of the Furious. Sure, everyone understands that the pandemic was a factor but I'm sure there are concerns within the studio that the franchise has lost some of it's bankability. And if you're worried about that you probably are going to also be worried when you see the budget ballooning to over 300 million. Then there's the the way the franchise is being described as pretty crucial to Universal's overall financial bottom line these days, and so there's an opportunity cost involved if you put out a Fast & Furious movie and it doesn't completely wreck the box office and break records. Universal is counting on it to basically carry them financially for that entire calendar year and anything less than that is going to be a disappointment, so a $300 million budget makes that situation even more dicey.
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Pity the poor studios.
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Seems like Ramsey is her biggest role since games of thrones ended. But that’s true for most of the cast. Fast and furious is the money maker for them.
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Their sacrifice makes them heroes, we need these movies! Four weeks down, 80 to go. Stanley Kubrick style.
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Basebf555 posted:For one thing, Fast 9 only made about 700 million, a major decline from Fate of the Furious. Sure, everyone understands that the pandemic was a factor but I'm sure there are concerns within the studio that the franchise has lost some of it's bankability. And if you're worried about that you probably are going to also be worried when you see the budget ballooning to over 300 million. The movies have been getting worse and worse and suffer without the Rock injecting actual charisma.
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eh, hobbes and shaw was all rock and it was a black hole of charisma/fun they've gotten worse since paul died
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Mandrel posted:eh, hobbes and shaw was all rock and it was a black hole of charisma/fun Paul and his shiteating grin really did keep the franchise together.
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9 was a step up from Hobbes/Shaw and F8 for me. 9 was just a lot of fun with everyone in the cast getting good stuff to do.
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I just realised I don't have a clue which was the last F&F I saw in full. I know I haven't seen 9; was 8 a rain of drone cars and Dom vs Submarine? Because if so I've only seen bits on a plane even though I own the DVD and drat, has this demented series really hit "yeah, whatever  " point?
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Payndz posted:I just realised I don't have a clue which was the last F&F I saw in full. I know I haven't seen 9; was 8 a rain of drone cars and Dom vs Submarine? Because if so I've only seen bits on a plane even though I own the DVD and drat, has this demented series really hit "yeah, whatever Yes, 8 had Cypher hacking all the cars in Manhattan and the submarine at the end.
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All we ask is two more, then everybody can go home. This can't fall apart until the saga concludes gloriously. Dom is one of the most legendary characters, the Buddha of the road. The Stallone of Street Samurai. I need this to hold together until credits roll on Fast 11. I've got a lot riding on this.
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Heavy Metal posted:All we ask is two more, then everybody can go home. This can't fall apart until the saga concludes gloriously. Hello Mr. Diesel
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Ok, here we go, I'm gonna do a giant Vin Instagram style post here. Y'all know we're family in here. This thread was all about positive vibes, like a cool oasis in a sea of discord. One little story, or a couple, a little backstage drama. The Saga hits a little berg or two. That's it? Game over? No, nah, no. We put that car back on the road and we go up that mountain one more time. Two more times. We're back baby.
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I’m sold. Send those cars driving through a volcano with lava repelling magnets.
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Payndz posted:I just realised I don't have a clue which was the last F&F I saw in full. I know I haven't seen 9; was 8 a rain of drone cars and Dom vs Submarine? Because if so I've only seen bits on a plane even though I own the DVD and drat, has this demented series really hit "yeah, whatever Eh for me that was when they were dragging a giant safe around the streets. It's entertainment but they're superhero movies now
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checkplease posted:9 was a step up from Hobbes/Shaw and F8 for me. 9 was just a lot of fun with everyone in the cast getting good stuff to do. 9 was tonally consistent with the other films (aka it was fun), 8 was not and Hobbs/Shaw is just a very generic by the numbers action movie that happens to have characters we first saw in F&F. 9 was a definite minor reset for me, had it been on the same tone and level of 8 I would have been out on the franchise. 8 is truly a near franchise killer for me it's that bad, I'm only glad I can mostly gloss over it and just go to 9 where they handwave most of 8 anyway. Truly losing Paul was the end of the peak times for this franchise, 7 might have been the greatest one if he didn't pass. It was really noticeable how they had to cut around him, and they did a great job its a great film, but man what could have been.
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As painful as it would have been they should have just killed off Brian. Because as is they now have to keep writing ways around why he isn't helping out. Maybe if they had kept Mia out of the picture it would have worked but they just had to bring her back and so now there's this awkward situation where she's showing up but he isn't.
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I'm low on 8 for all the reasons mentioned, but on a rewatch I actually liked it more than thought. The raining cars part and Terminator Dom was enjoyable and the ice race and submarine battle at the end was fun because the crew was back together.
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WhyteRyce posted:I'm low on 8 for all the reasons mentioned, but on a rewatch I actually liked it more than thought. The raining cars part and Terminator Dom was enjoyable and the ice race and submarine battle at the end was fun because the crew was back together. 8's action is mostly fine (i think the actual directing work done is just less interesting than Lin's eye for it), its the character work that is flat out offensive to the entire rest of the franchise. Dom and crew just don't behave like the crew, its mean and unpleasant for the sake of being so in a series that has almost always slanted towards optimism and joy.
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The only realistic part of 8 was that Dom did not wrap it up and did not know he left a kid behind.
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Rita Moreno has been cast as Grandma Toretto because that's exactly what the franchise needs, more characters. They barely have time for any of their current cast.
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