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Smythe posted:ive become certain that refined sugar is poison. its insane how easily you can trim down by just literally never eating candy or junk food. a little roll of hostess donettes or w/e are like 9999999 calories Yeah I've gone low carb (not really keto because I don't keep my fat/protein macros in a keto ratio but I do keep net carbs under 20 a day) and religiously avoid refined sugars and it's led to: less appetite, making dieting easier significant weight loss Just in general feeling better (the last time I had heartburn, for example, was around Christmas when I wasn't giving a gently caress) I'm reading a book called The Case Against Sugar by Gary Taubes and one of the more interesting things in it so far is how sugar insinuated its way into our diet. For one thing, as we refined flour more and more, the yeast stopped being able to do anything because it had no fuel, so we started adding sugar to the baking process. That's why white bread can have so much goddamn sugar in it. Then, when we went on the "dietary fat is bad for you!" kick, it was discovered that taking fat out of things also removed all the flavor, so sugar was added in to compensate. That's how you get extremely stupid poo poo like a pack of gummy bears being marketed as "a fat free food"
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I love a snickers for exactly snowbording or cross country skiing because it stays cold in your pocket and is actually satisfying hunger-wise unlike all the garbage candies that trick your body into stuffing a trillion calories into you. One bar and you’ve got fuel for nearly an entire day
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May 2, 2022 18:23
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it's not rocket fuel. if all you eat is snickers, you need like 12 bars a day if you're exercising if you want protein just eat a payday 
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May 2, 2022 18:28
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i say swears online posted:it's not rocket fuel. if all you eat is snickers, you need like 12 bars a day if you're exercising I got some protein you can suck out of a little tube.
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May 2, 2022 18:37
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you never hear about castor oil any more
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May 2, 2022 18:48
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is the term "fatty acids" cancelled
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May 2, 2022 18:51
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acids of heft
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fast cars loose anus posted:Yeah I've gone low carb (not really keto because I don't keep my fat/protein macros in a keto ratio but I do keep net carbs under 20 a day) and religiously avoid refined sugars and it's led to: Gary Taubes is a quack. He is a cholesterol denier and slanders doctors and scientists instead of actually engaging them. His been humiliated by fund raising a study that was supposed to support low-carb diets increased fat loss but actually showed that it slowed down fat loss. But not before pocketing millions of dollars of his donors money in executive compensation. You can read all about his misunderstandings here: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/gary-taubes-and-the-cause-of-obesity/ Basically, the only thing he gets right is that processed foods are bad.
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May 2, 2022 19:14
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Michael Greger's "how not to die" books are probably a better source if you want to avoid processed stuff.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Michael Greger's "how not to die" books are probably a better source if you want to avoid processed stuff. this
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Michael Greger's "how not to die" books are probably a better source if you want to avoid processed stuff. You want me to eat the book? Okay
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FacelessVoid posted:Gary Taubes is a quack. He is a cholesterol denier and slanders doctors and scientists instead of actually engaging them. His been humiliated by fund raising a study that was supposed to support low-carb diets increased fat loss but actually showed that it slowed down fat loss. But not before pocketing millions of dollars of his donors money in executive compensation. You can read all about his misunderstandings here: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/gary-taubes-and-the-cause-of-obesity/ *shrug* maybe so but low carb is literally the only thing that's ever worked for me so I'll stick with it and avoid sugar What I've come to learn, personally, is that you do definitely have to restrict calories to lose weight; that whole "eat all the fat and protein you want in the right ratios and you'll just magically thin up and your appetite will be controlled" doesn't seem to be true for me. But low carb makes calorie restrictions possible for me, and eating refined sugar makes me hungry as hell no matter how much I stuff in my gob. So maybe I won't take his word for it, necessarily, but nothing in the sugar book so far strikes me as unreasonable and I think it might be something he's right about even if it's accidentally.
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fast cars loose anus posted:*shrug* maybe so but low carb is literally the only thing that's ever worked for me so I'll stick with it and avoid sugar Not trying to dunk on you or anything. A lot of people have success on low-carb diets. But I think there are health risks associated with it people should be aware of that characters like Taubes deny. Glad it's working for you. Sincere question though--why do you need to go low-carb to avoid refined sugar? Does eating an apple make you tear into potato chips a minute later?
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FacelessVoid posted:Not trying to dunk on you or anything. A lot of people have success on low-carb diets. But I think there are health risks associated with it people should be aware of that characters like Taubes deny. Glad it's working for you. I guess I don't consider an apple refined sugar? And no, eating apples is fine and I can fit some of that into low carb. I have lately been deserting with raspberries in a low-cal whipped topping, for example. It's just that if I try to work serious carbs in (bread, hamburger buns, chips, whatever) all of a sudden my appetite explodes and I cannot keep to calorie counts because I constantly feel hungry. This then ultimately ends up with me giving up and chowing on the worst poo poo imaginable. I'm a recovering alcoholic and the behavior around that kind of food ultimately mirrors how I behaved with booze, weirdly. Maybe that ultimately is the processed food thing but for me it's the feeling of satiety that low carb gives me that allows me to stick to the calorie counts. e: I didn't explain this well let me try again If I ate a "normal" diet that was like 40% carbs, 30% each fat and protein, my appetite would be such that I would not be able to restrict calories with that ratio very well because I would be hungry all the time, which would wear down my willpower, which would cause bad decisions and exacerbate that problem. Eating as I currently am, which is < 10% carbs, at least 100g of protein a day (I weight lift and am trying to lose as little muscle as possible while dieting) and the rest fat, I do not have this issue and have been quite easily fitting under my aggressive, lose two pounds a week calorie restriction (and usually finish under that by hundreds of calories at the end of the week). So apples or raspberries or such carbs as fit under that limit in small doses are fine but if I started trying to fit hamburgers in my diet it'd be bad times. fast cars loose anus has issued a correction as of 21:03 on May 2, 2022 |
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yesterday I ate 1x sardines on crackers and today I’ve had a salad and will prob eat 1x chicken breast tonight lol. one weird trick big diet industry doesn’t want you to know: don’t eat. simple.
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Smythe posted:yesterday I ate 1x sardines on crackers and today I’ve had a salad and will prob eat 1x chicken breast tonight lol. one weird trick big diet industry doesn’t want you to know: don’t eat. simple. you mean a can of sardines, right? right?!?
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a primate posted:you mean a can of sardines, right? can i use sardine oil to season my cast iron cookware?
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Malleum posted:can i use sardine oil to season my cast iron cookware? nah but you can sardeez nuts
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gently caress
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i quit drinking a few weeks ago and my appetite is insane. i need a suppresant lol
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Smythe posted:ive become certain that refined sugar is poison. its insane how easily you can trim down by just literally never eating candy or junk food. a little roll of hostess donettes or w/e are like 9999999 calories. a snickers is like 2 meals worth of poo poo. if you're gonna eat one you gotta basically fast for the rest of the day. just imo I thought this too for a long time because of history of native populations getting fat when refined flour and sugar was introduced but other populations like the french were smashing flour and sugar and remaining slim for basically all of time. they seem to be getting a bit fatter now, whether it's seed oils or some other environmental factor remains to be seen
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fart simpson posted:speaking of good btus, cast iron, and steaks though, i get a good sear on my steaks that thing got a hemi?
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Michael Greger's "how not to die" books are probably a better source if you want to avoid processed stuff. lmao that guy looks old and frail as gently caress. slim though, guess if you want to look like a diseased skeleton you can follow his stuff.
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does that 109 year old buddhist monk that went viral a few months ago eat nut and seed oil? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNj_nOXHsMc this dude right here
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cowboy beepboop posted:lmao that guy looks old and frail as gently caress. slim though, guess if you want to look like a diseased skeleton you can follow his stuff. computer touchers should stay in the computer touching forum
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The Saucer Hovers posted:"im so tired of people pretending theres a difference between naturally occurring sugar and refined sugar" why
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a primate posted:you mean a can of sardines, right? yes 1 tin of sardine
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cowboy beepboop posted:I thought this too for a long time because of history of native populations getting fat when refined flour and sugar was introduced but other populations like the french were smashing flour and sugar and remaining slim for basically all of time. they seem to be getting a bit fatter now, whether it's seed oils or some other environmental factor remains to be seen thats true and is a big think....
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Micro plastic diet. Microplastic intermittent fasting. Microplastic veganism. Microplastic vegetarianism. Microplastic trophic cascade. Microplastic refinery production. Microplastic artificial flavoring. Microplastic oupcycling. Microplastic juice cleanse
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a lot of the reporting around obesity in the us is just pure pseudo science, a lot of studies start with the conclusion that looking like a greek statue = health and then work backwards from there with a level of subjugating math to the need of ideology that even a chicago school economist would describe as heavy-handedPlatystemon posted:
this is cool and good post
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i think like those pre-contact african tribal villages are what default settings homo sapiens look like. its crazy that dudes like that and john cena are the same species. i stood next to lebron once and it blew my mind that we were the same animal more or less
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Smythe posted:yes 1 tin of sardine try kipper snacks imo
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Tulip posted:a lot of the reporting around obesity in the us is just pure pseudo science, a lot of studies start with the conclusion that looking like a greek statue = health and then work backwards from there with a level of subjugating math to the need of ideology that even a chicago school economist would describe as heavy-handed Uhm, no. Try again sweaty. The axiom is that the obese suffer higher amounts of mortality, High blood pressure (hypertension), High LDL cholesterol, low HDL cholesterol, or high levels of triglycerides (dyslipidemia), Type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, stroke, gallbladder disease, osteoarthritis (a breakdown of cartilage and bone within a joint), sleep apnea and breathing problems, many types of cancer, mental illness such as clinical depression, anxiety, and other mental disorders and body pain and difficulty with physical functioning than the non-obese population. Or is all that a conspiracy "they" want you to believe?
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Obesity is simultaneously a fun & harmless lifestyle choice and also a tragic consequence of childhood trauma beyond ones control
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Tulip posted:a lot of the reporting around obesity in the us is just pure pseudo science, a lot of studies start with the conclusion that looking like a greek statue = health and then work backwards from there with a level of subjugating math to the need of ideology that even a chicago school economist would describe as heavy-handed theres's a big difference between some mythological greek and what ppl used to look like    vs   its a sociological (lots of work, car culture, fear of walking, tons of sugar in everything, cheap processed junk being easier than alternatives when you work all the time, etc.) and pollution problem (microplastics, phtlates and other edcs), not pseudo-science. Xaris has issued a correction as of 08:21 on May 3, 2022 |
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fast cars loose anus posted:I had heard moving it about could scratch the surface, not that I'm constantly sliding my pans around but they do move from time to time ive used cast iron on our rented glasstop electric stove and never scratched it once. i mean it helps that the surface was already scraped up some by the previous tenant
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Mr. Front row, 2nd from right is smouldering  What uniforms are those though, I don't recognize them
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I love those guys who will post an old photograph or even painting or cartoon or whatever and go "you don't see people like this around anymore".
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