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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
My local dude is a 15year running Tory councillor who got almost 10 times the labour person last time. Can't find a trace of the labour candidate online. The green is a drat hippy artist with connections to a slightly alarm bells philosophy group. Quite the choice.

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Mebh
May 10, 2010


I'm always impressed at the number of people running for these things that just don't loving exist at all online.

Like, why are they even running for public office? Do these people just entirely depend on the party to support them and provide a media presence?

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Ziggy Tzardust posted:

Nah. These nerds thought kissing up to the right wing press and kicking the lefties would stop this from happening. Very funny to see them realize that it won’t

Sure it's hilarious but it's just another grim reminder that things will never be allowed to get better while the right wing press exists.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Mebh posted:

I'm always impressed at the number of people running for these things that just don't loving exist at all online.

Like, why are they even running for public office? Do these people just entirely depend on the party to support them and provide a media presence?

The majority of MPs and councillors use their social media accounts to just repost party tag lines, so what exactly do you think you are missing?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
accidental porn retweets

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
A picture. So I can quickly judge a book by its cover and get on with my considered decision making.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
It's a well known that the more socialist you are the sexier you look

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
Yeah, the labour guy running in our ward has literally no online presence whatsoever, bar a single paragraph on the Labour website which says he went to one of the schools round here as a kid. Similarly to the op, I have no idea why they're running or how they think they can win with no campaign and no marketing.

Where I am, there's a local independent group called 'The Alliance' which has been ousting all the main parties anyway, after everyone lost patience with our local tory council when they tried to force through plans to build themselves a £100m new office on a local park, against the wishes of pretty much every resident in the area.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Mega Comrade posted:

so what exactly do you think you are missing?

Someone to vote for?

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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The Perfect Element posted:

Where I am, there's a local independent group called 'The Alliance' which has been ousting all the main parties anyway, after everyone lost patience with our local tory council when they tried to force through plans to build themselves a £100m new office on a local park, against the wishes of pretty much every resident in the area.

Where is this, sounds interesting!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
The Alliance is a good name to put yourself in contradistinction to the orcs, goblins and assorted greebles of the Tory Horde

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
southend has a new party- "confelicity" which is seemingly a pretty transparent effort by a former labour council candidate and director of the seafront attraction adventure island (and a bunch of other properties) to install a bunch of friendly councillors who just happen to be staff/related to people working at adventure island

my green candidate hasn't leafleted or shown up and neither have the libs, tories leafleted entirely on local issues, current labour incumbent spent most of his big glossy leaflet talking himself up personally (he's so proud, goons) and conspicuously not mentioning the gently caress all he's been doing for years, and there's no kippers or other assorted poundland fash this time round

gonna spoil that ballot so hard tomorrow

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

DesperateDan posted:

southend has a new party- "confelicity" which is seemingly a pretty transparent effort by a former labour council candidate and director of the seafront attraction adventure island (and a bunch of other properties) to install a bunch of friendly councillors who just happen to be staff/related to people working at adventure island

lol now that's the kind of single-issue party I can get behind. I like that even the word implies you won't be getting anything, but your vote will make them happy

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

The Alliance is a good name to put yourself in contradistinction to the orcs, goblins and assorted greebles of the Tory Horde
I hope it drives the opposition into such benzene huffing brain polished responses as the other Alliance did.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


We have "[name of suburb] Party", who want to change the road markings slightly & put up a stop sign down the road. Seems to be happening a lot, I know there's a similar deal elsewhere near here, & independents currently have control of Blaenau Gwent.

Will laugh hard if Labour loses half of Wales to a bunch of curtain twitching retirees (I'm voting straight TUSC, & Tories aren't even standing in my ward so worst case is the curtain twitchers)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Last I heard Wales had lost half of Wales to a bunch of curtain twitching retirees, so it's representative politics if nothing else. :v:

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

Josef bugman posted:

Where is this, sounds interesting!

Royal Tunbridge Wells, darling.

So it's actually called The TW Alliance, but that's less bad rear end.

Their manifesto is pretty much non-political in as much as can be possible, saying they support sustainable development but not building on green belt, they want to encourage green initiatives blah blah. They are almost definitely a bunch of libs, but given the choice of them, tories or Labour, it's a pretty easy decision really.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Mebh posted:

I'm always impressed at the number of people running for these things that just don't loving exist at all online.

Like, why are they even running for public office? Do these people just entirely depend on the party to support them and provide a media presence?

because of the sheer number of councils and councillor positions there are in never-going-to-win areas parties put up 'paper candidates' of local activists from a ward or two over who, whilst are very real and need nomination papers signing off, have no chance or intention of actually becoming a councillor and are a mere barometer of how far behind the party putting up a paper candidate are in a real election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_candidate#United_Kingdom

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

I hope it drives the opposition into such benzene huffing brain polished responses as the other Alliance did.



keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Don't understand the need libs have to be as non political as possible. It's called politics the clue is in the name.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Guavanaut posted:

Last I heard Wales had lost half of Wales to a bunch of curtain twitching retirees, so it's representative politics if nothing else. :v:

Most of it is second homes, so they can't vote. Unless all the tory stuff about voter fraud was right all along :tinfoil:

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


keep punching joe posted:

Don't understand the need libs have to be as non political as possible. It's called politics the clue is in the name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP-z03rfj7w

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Skunk Anansie are great. Still active too, they released a single not to long ago with a pretty great music video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke8VGfDiDqs

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Failed Imagineer posted:

The Alliance is a good name to put yourself in contradistinction to the orcs, goblins and assorted greebles of the Tory Horde

The tories are more like the Burning Legion imo

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


keep punching joe posted:

Don't understand the need libs have to be as non political as possible. It's called politics the clue is in the name.
"Non political" is code for "I lack the critical faculties to recognise the ideals & normative assumptions on which my interpretation of 'common sense' or 'evidence driven policy' is based & don't understand why other people don't agree with me"

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Mebh posted:

I'm always impressed at the number of people running for these things that just don't loving exist at all online.

Like, why are they even running for public office? Do these people just entirely depend on the party to support them and provide a media presence?

lol if you think that councillors usually have a "media presence"

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

My labour councillor's media presence is a mystery to me since he blocked me on twitter :lol:

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Doccykins posted:

because of the sheer number of councils and councillor positions there are in never-going-to-win areas parties put up 'paper candidates' of local activists from a ward or two over who, whilst are very real and need nomination papers signing off, have no chance or intention of actually becoming a councillor and are a mere barometer of how far behind the party putting up a paper candidate are in a real election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_candidate#United_Kingdom

Well you learn something new every day. Makes sense. Political systems are loving weird.

I stand by my "600 people from the beach on a sunny day" electoral system as far more likely to produce a better run country.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I was arm-twisted into being a paper candidate for town council in 2017 or 18. Welsh Labour wanted a candidate in every ward. I knew there was no chance on this planet of winning and had no intention of campaigning.
The crap thing is the local CLP ballsed up the campaign leaflet by putting a photo of the wrong town on it (they had to change it when someone dropped out and left the template photo of another town which looked very similar at first glance in instead of replacing it) and the Sun got hold of it and printed it with a scathing comment about ineptitude including all our names and phone numbers. Noone ever phoned.

I got 50 votes doing nothing. A year or so later when we had a town council by election another member of labour really wanted to get in and campaigned hard. He got 50 votes. Same again another year later. (Town councillors round here don't last long other than Tories or fake independents who are normally Tories who fell out with the other local Tories)

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 11:35 on May 4, 2022

SpaceCommie
Oct 2, 2008

I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by Capitalism ...

SPACE!



Doccykins posted:

because of the sheer number of councils and councillor positions there are in never-going-to-win areas parties put up 'paper candidates' of local activists from a ward or two over who, whilst are very real and need nomination papers signing off, have no chance or intention of actually becoming a councillor and are a mere barometer of how far behind the party putting up a paper candidate are in a real election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_candidate#United_Kingdom

Just before the pandemic I agreed to be a paper candidate in a Watford local election that never went ahead. I think it's also a bit of a stepping stone for ambitious go getters in the party to stand in a few no hope council seats before running more seriously when people have some idea of who you are.

I have since moved, quit the party, and will only vote for individual candidates if they seemed to be a good'un.

To be honest every CLP meeting was awful, with people suggesting we actually try to convince people in these areas to vote for the party and the more mainstream (centrist) group shutting it down instantly. If it wasn't for the leadership basically telling the left to leave and their inaction over transphobes in the upper ranks of the party, the chaos of CLP meetings would probably have put me over the edge eventually anyway. Still not as bad as when I lived in Oxford and had to see Nuke Akehurst at them though.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012
Nothing outside the main three for my local elections. Of the three labour candidates (all incumbent) two of them seem fairly non-melty—one is even a trade unionist, FWIW—and the third doesn’t seem to have a personality or an online presence beyond reference Rosena AK’s tweets.

Rosena herself seems to be extremely unremarkable in her voting record which sadly isn’t very encouraging. Never rebelled, including voting against further scrutiny of the Iraq war.

Will probably vote for the labour candidates tomorrow and then see who is left of labour in Wandsworth come the GE. Suggestions welcome.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Jeherrin posted:

one is even a trade unionist, FWIW
Not very much imo, since most of the unions these days are melty as gently caress. The big divide my way during the Corbyn days was between the (right wing) "trade unionists" defending the electoral college, & the socialists supporting OMOV. Weirdly the only elected politician who turned up to the picket lines when I was on strike recently was on the left :thunk: guess the "trade unionists" were busy off supporting other unions

Personally I tend to judge candidates I don't know by reference to the reality of the factional dispute in the party, meaning that if anyone doesn't take a strong stance on that, then they actually have taken a stance & it's the wrong one

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Wow, I’ve got a whole 4 candidates to choose from- two labour and two Tory.

Ballot spoiling ahoy!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
No elections here this year according to the council website, but it is general waste bin collection day so I think that fits the theme.

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

I don’t think we have councillors up for election, but we are voting to shitcan the mayor’s job, which I’m very on board with.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 3 days!)

i moved last year and didn't update to my current address on the electoral register cos i thought it was going to be short term, then forgot. will i still be registered at my previous address? it's close enough i can go to the previous polling station easily.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


roomtone posted:

i moved last year and didn't update to my current address on the electoral register cos i thought it was going to be short term, then forgot. will i still be registered at my previous address? it's close enough i can go to the previous polling station easily.

Yes but if it's not in the same ward then you'll be doing a badass ELECTORAL FRAUD by voting in a place you don't reside at.

e: actually you might not be if the new occupant has registered themselves, I assume that overwrites your prior registration

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Jeherrin posted:

Nothing outside the main three for my local elections. Of the three labour candidates (all incumbent) two of them seem fairly non-melty—one is even a trade unionist, FWIW—and the third doesn’t seem to have a personality or an online presence beyond reference Rosena AK’s tweets.

Rosena herself seems to be extremely unremarkable in her voting record which sadly isn’t very encouraging. Never rebelled, including voting against further scrutiny of the Iraq war.

Will probably vote for the labour candidates tomorrow and then see who is left of labour in Wandsworth come the GE. Suggestions welcome.

This guy is a good comrade, and if Labour take the Wandsworth council, he'll be in charge of housing:

https://twitter.com/AydinDikerdem/status/1521793309496299520

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Mebh posted:

Well you learn something new every day. Makes sense. Political systems are loving weird.

I stand by my "600 people from the beach on a sunny day" electoral system as far more likely to produce a better run country.

Hilariously occasionally something unexpected will happen and you'll get a paper candidate that is either completely unsuitable for or doesn't actually want the job elected. The SNP landslide in Scotland produced A LOT of those. I think only a few years back there was a Tory MP who quit a few days after being elected because he would have had to give up his law career but I can't remember the name off hand.

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Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

Comrade Fakename posted:

This guy is a good comrade, and if Labour take the Wandsworth council, he'll be in charge of housing:

https://twitter.com/AydinDikerdem/status/1521793309496299520

Not my ward, but that’s good to know. Thank you!

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