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Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Work is flying me from ORD to MIA for a week next week. :unsmith:

It's on American. :smith:

e: fixing this snipe. Have an A380 taxiing at KMIA.

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

But, American is probably your best option for ORD-MIA?

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Yeah it’s spirit or United for nonstops. United is the same 737 as AA

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

sellouts posted:

United is the same 737 as AA

lol look at this guy that’s never experienced the seat pitch in an AA 737

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


I get to commute to a remote site in the Middle of Nowhere, Flatland. My flight is CLT->PIA. I have my choice of airlines, so I get to choose CRJ 700s, 900s, or ERJ 145s. Nothing real flies into Peoria, Illinois.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

e.pilot posted:

lol look at this guy that’s never experienced the seat pitch in an AA 737

Seatguru claims they’re both 30”.

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

I have status on United, so they treat me like a person.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Full Collapse gets two scoops from the slop bucket before being thrown into the passenger pit.

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

drat right.

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

e.pilot posted:

lol look at this guy that’s never experienced the seat pitch in an AA 737

If it's anything like their triples god help you. I once sat in the very middle seat in coach on an AA 777 from MIA to IAD and it was the worst 2 hours I've ever spent on an airplane. The next leg it was doing was to Seoul. That's some warcrimes poo poo man.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

If there was a “very” middle seat that means it was 3-3-3 instead of 3-4-3.

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

2-5-2 if I remember right

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

e.pilot posted:

lol look at this guy that’s never experienced the seat pitch in an AA 737

lmao, god I wish you were not so wrong.

But that’s the point it sucks rear end no matter what you’re taking between those two cities. all economy pitch sucks.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

It looks like you could do Delta A321s ORD to ATL and ATL to MIA. That’ll get you an extra inch or two leg room in steerage! Just need to plan on a tight connection in ATL in the summer, I’m sure nothing will go wrong.

Airbus seats are also a little wider than the 737/757.

big dong wanter
Jan 28, 2010

The future for this country is roads, freeways and highways

To the dangerzone

GlassEye-Boy posted:

or just take a sleeping pill and copious amounts of alcohol!

Drinking on a long flight is a terrible idea, nothing worse than waking up with a ripping hangover and seeing that you still have 6 hours of flight left

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Arson Daily posted:

2-5-2 if I remember right

Jesus gently caress, that's bordering on "gently caress you, because we can."

Why would any airline take that in preference to 3-3-3 unless they actually want you to suffer?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

big dong wanter posted:

Drinking on a long flight is a terrible idea, nothing worse than waking up with a ripping hangover and seeing that you still have 6 hours of flight left

You're not wrong!

And you can't have three cups of coffee because you'll need to take a cursed hangover poo poo in an airplane lav, which is basically a fate worse than death itself.

Get the buzz going prior to boarding, and then sleep immediately before you're tempted to drink more alcohol. You'll wake up fresh as a daisy at your destination.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB-pulbPWeA

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

PT6A posted:

Jesus gently caress, that's bordering on "gently caress you, because we can."

Why would any airline take that in preference to 3-3-3 unless they actually want you to suffer?

I've seen 2-4-2 with the reason being the 2 on the sides have extra leg room. My flight on Hawaiian was like that.


Brilliant. Love this dudes little CNC router.

CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 12:22 on May 4, 2022

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Am I an idiot trick question or do I not see a way to buy them?

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

big dong wanter posted:

Drinking on a long flight is a terrible idea, nothing worse than waking up with a ripping hangover and seeing that you still have 6 hours of flight left

I've never had this problem! Just don't overdo it on the alcohol.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CarForumPoster posted:

I've seen 2-4-2 with the reason being the 2 on the sides have extra leg room. My flight on Hawaiian was like that.

2-4-2 is awesome. 2-5-2 sounds hellish.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
I mean in a practical sense 3-3-3 is no different than 2-5-2, actually worse in some ways.

3-3-3 you’ve got two people per row that have to cross 2 seats to get out at each window, 2-5-2 you’ve only got one, the poor soul in the middle.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
2-5-2 on a very light flight means you can stretch out across the five in the middle.

Meanwhile, there's AF with the cursed 3-4-3.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

e.pilot posted:

I mean in a practical sense 3-3-3 is no different than 2-5-2, actually worse in some ways.

3-3-3 you’ve got two people per row that have to cross 2 seats to get out at each window, 2-5-2 you’ve only got one, the poor soul in the middle.

A 3-3-3 is more equal across the row. The window seats have to cross two seats to get out, but they have the window as a trade. Even the middle middle gets two possible paths which can be very convenient depending on who or what else is in the aisle at the time. Every seat has its ups and downs.

In a 2-5-2 the window seats are VIP seats and the middle middle is just hosed.

edit:

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

2-5-2 on a very light flight means you can stretch out across the five in the middle.
That is a valid point, when a light flight gets you an entire row segment to yourself the more seats the better.

wolrah fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 4, 2022

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Worth remembering that for those who live in Australia and NZ, super long haul is commonplace. Already we have Auckland to Dubai on Emirates and Doha with Qatar. both over 17 hours and AirNZ is introducing Auckland to New York soon at 17h35m.

Yes, a break is nice, but given that for most of us the final destination is London or somewhere else in Europe, stopovers can quickly turn boost your total travel time. Sure, 3-6 hours is a common transfer time, but 8-12 hours isn't uncommon either, now your total travel time is more like 40 hours versus ~24 AKL-LHR.

I did London - Doha - Auckland in steerage class a few years ago. I didn't enjoy Doha, I would happily fly over if I could.

And nowadays I have a bad back 🤔

meltie fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 4, 2022

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


2-5-2 means a large family can fit in one row.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Exit row seating or bust

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

PainterofCrap posted:

Exit row seating or bust

:agreed:

Bargain First Class.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
It sucked when they started having exit row as “premium economy”.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

priznat posted:

It sucked when they started having exit row as “premium economy”.

Counterpoint: it's good, actually, because then those of us who want the extra space can pay for it and have a reasonable chance that it's available.

Premium Economy, as a whole, is a wonderful concept because it's not a huge additional cost in most cases, and it allows you to feel like a normal human being instead of a sardine, and it allows the cheapest possible tickets for penny-pinchers who care so much about the difference in fare price that they're willing to withstand misery for several hours.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

PT6A posted:

Counterpoint: it's good, actually, because then those of us who want the extra space can pay for it and have a reasonable chance that it's available.

Premium Economy, as a whole, is a wonderful concept because it's not a huge additional cost in most cases, and it allows you to feel like a normal human being instead of a sardine, and it allows the cheapest possible tickets for penny-pinchers who care so much about the difference in fare price that they're willing to withstand misery for several hours.

I used to have check in agents take pity on me because I’m tall and give me the exit row. Now because I mostly fly on business I have to grovel to get the $60 bump or whatever it is :sigh:

Now that I am a bit more senior I’ll just raise a stink if I don’t get it but before, forget about it. I paid out of pocket a couple times, which is fuckin bullshit.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



priznat posted:

.... I paid out of pocket a couple times, which is fuckin bullshit.

Beats an embolism.

Also love the pop quiz:

:angel: "Sir, are you capable of lifting 50-pounds, and do you understand how to operate this over-wing door?"

:whip:"Kid, we survive a landing that requires evacuation, I'll rip this loving door off without a second thought"

PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 02:31 on May 5, 2022

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

PainterofCrap posted:

:angel: "Sir, are you capable of lifting 50-pounds, and do you understand how to operate this over-wing door?"

“Oh yeah.”

“I was banned by Delta for five years for doing just that.”

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

PainterofCrap posted:

Beats an embolism.

Also love the pop quiz:

:angel: "Sir, are you capable of lifting 50-pounds, and do you understand how to operate this over-wing door?"

:whip:"Kid, we survive a landing that requires evacuation, I'll rip this loving door off without a second thought"

More than one airplane that had a serious but otherwise stable issue that could wait for an air stair (eg landing gear collapse) has been evacuated because an exit row passenger just went for it.

You will be remembered as a “panicking passenger” in official reports!

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

hobbesmaster posted:

More than one airplane that had a serious but otherwise stable issue that could wait for an air stair (eg landing gear collapse) has been evacuated because an exit row passenger just went for it.

You will be remembered as a “panicking passenger” in official reports!

A small price to pay to use the slide.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



hobbesmaster posted:

More than one airplane that had a serious but otherwise stable issue that could wait for an air stair (eg landing gear collapse) has been evacuated because an exit row passenger just went for it.

You will be remembered as a “panicking passenger” in official reports!

I'll take that over a fiery death with lungs full of complex hydrocarbons

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Zorak of Michigan posted:

2-5-2 means a large family can fit in one row.

Mom, dad, and a very large adult son in the middle row?


I guess I'm lucky I'm normal sized because space is never an issue in airplanes. Though having two empty seats next to you is nice.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


PainterofCrap posted:

Exit row seating or bust

Only if not anywhere close to the toilets.

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babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


PainterofCrap posted:

Beats an embolism.

Also love the pop quiz:

:angel: "Sir, are you capable of lifting 50-pounds, and do you understand how to operate this over-wing door?"

:whip:"Kid, we survive a landing that requires evacuation, I'll rip this loving door off without a second thought"

Friend, I'm an airplane mechanic that has opened this door before DOZENS of times. It's alllll good.

That reminds me. I've got some expired masks and flotation vests. I should wear a set next time.

:cool: "last flight was a bit delayed, but I managed to make my connection!"

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