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McGavin posted:From the cursed images thread:  My 7th grade science teacher told us this could happen and I never believed her.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Do the Dutch exclusively ride stone age bikes or something? Cultural inertia is a hell of a thing. You can still get a dutch bike with 100% 1920s tech. E: they work fine, too, assuming you're riding 5km at a time on the flattest possible ground.
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To be fair, there really isn't much to gain from getting a fancy modern bike just to peddle around a dutch city. There isn't really much to gain from getting one for an american city either, tbh. You're almost always better off getting a cheap bike and an expensive lock.
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Yeah they’re not making horrible tradeoffs for short trips on crowded bike paths in a flat city. It’s just not like “this is obviously superior choice for all situations, why is the rest of the world so dumb???”
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Platystemon posted:Yeah they’re not making horrible tradeoffs for short trips on crowded bike paths in a flat city. NotJustBikes is fairly explicitly a polemic channel, and look! It worked!
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TotalLossBrain posted:Probably the old reliable Kackeschieber. (Rubber block that presses on top of the front tire lol) If there's a front brake it's either hydraulic or a v-brake typically. Dutch people use all kinds of bikes, both sporty and upright, for leisure and otherwise. The classical Dutch bike is what used to be a women's bike because you don't need to sweep your leg over the saddle, allowing more clothing types to be used. It's called the Omafiets (grandmother's bike). Upright bikes are just much more comfortable because you're not hunched over, and allow easier swiveling of your head, important in high-density traffic situations. For the distances and frequency of use, that's more important than efficiency in transfer of power. I once ran into a Van Moof employee at a train station with my self-made foldable bike and he was so impressed with the concept he said he was gonna try and make one himself. Not long after that the tube going from saddle to crank shaft broke at the crank shaft because I cut it incorrectly and the weld was under constant force  I'm happy to say my dong did not get smashed that day
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Platystemon posted:Yeah they’re not making horrible tradeoffs for short trips on crowded bike paths in a flat city. Yeah no, proper brakes instead of coasting brakes and a handful of gears isn't some exotic, unobtainable feature tech. I'm not gonna judge anybody for getting what's really available in their region but it's still weird.
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May 6, 2022 04:06
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Obviously you're not a hipster.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Yeah no, proper brakes instead of coasting brakes and a handful of gears isn't some exotic, unobtainable feature tech. I'm not gonna judge anybody for getting what's really available in their region but it's still weird. Is this going to turn into another helmet chat? 
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Leandros posted:Is this going to turn into another helmet chat? Wearing a helmet means admitting you're a bad cyclist so I don't do it
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Leandros posted:Is this going to turn into another helmet chat? Nah, that's understandable. Helmets objectively make you safer, but so does understanding how to drive your car and lol America. Notions of what kinds of safety-comfort tradeoffs are acceptable are highly cultural. But coasting brake only fixies actually suck to use. It's tough to imagine someone using a modernish bike and thinking "this trivial price premium is unjustified." Waste of Breath posted:Wearing a helmet means admitting you're a bad cyclist so I don't do it PSA: this is bait, just ignore it.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Nah, that's understandable. Helmets objectively make you safer, but so does understanding how to drive your car and lol America. Notions of what kinds of safety-comfort tradeoffs are acceptable are highly cultural. I drive extra reckless when I wear a helmet though cause I know I’m safer in it
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Yeah no, proper brakes instead of coasting brakes and a handful of gears isn't some exotic, unobtainable feature tech. I'm not gonna judge anybody for getting what's really available in their region but it's still weird. Coaster brakes are inexcusable, agreed. It’s not like they take less maintenance than V-brakes. They’re just bad. I might want a fixed gear ratio and a chain guard if I could get by with it, because that’s another point of maintenance, but in my city, I can’t. The gears are worth the complexity.
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Tossing a grenade in by revealing that I use a folding e-scooter and train pass for my daily travel.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Yeah, my Outback is a base model and it owns. Best seats, no nanny poo poo, stick. Yeah as someone who drives cheap cars for a very very long time I dislike automatics starting to taking over even in europe. A manual transmission is trouble free for so many goddamn kilometers compared to an auto. I really think the durability of a manual transmission has been overlooked.
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Sure. We can do helmet chat! Virginia Tech just released an updated list of tested helmets. It's a massive increase compared to their last study. If you choose to wear a helmet this is a great resource: https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html Helmet certification standards are loving pitiful. This level of independent testing being made public is unprecedented. Note: they weight rotational protection really highly so the list pushes MIPS helmets upwards a lot.
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Platystemon posted:Coaster brakes are inexcusable, agreed. It’s not like they take less maintenance than V-brakes. They’re just bad. I have never had to fix or replace them, while the v-brake pads require regular replacing. I haven't had a bike without v-brake on either wheel in 10 years, but they're really fine in this country. Our privatised train company has been running a bike renting program at many of its stations, and they only have coaster brakes, with no major issues. For the speeds those bikes go at you're at standstill within maybe a meter. Anyway, there are also plenty of bikes with cable brakes for both wheels, and with the advent of electric ones that only increases. Leandros fucked around with this message at 04:57 on May 6, 2022 |
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Platystemon posted:Coaster brakes are inexcusable, agreed. It’s not like they take less maintenance than V-brakes. They’re just bad. I don't mind them at all, I don't do a lot of biking but I've had a bikes with and without, currently have one with. I honestly don't get the hate or really noticed a difference... For my kids we sought out coaster brake bikes so they could use their feet to brake because of hand disabilities and reduced grip strength.
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I don't care whether you use your hands, feet, or sphincter to brake, but please don't ride a bike without front brakes. I personally don't give a poo poo whether you or your kids crash and die, but I would prefer that you don't take me or mine out in the process.
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Well we're on different areas of the planet but here's hoping someone else steps up to fill the void.
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A wonderful bike derail, what this thread needs about once a month as a palate-cleanser
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Platystemon posted:Coaster brakes are inexcusable, agreed. It’s not like they take less maintenance than V-brakes. They’re just bad. My Dutch bike has shimano hub gears and V brakes - the hub is all completely self contained so other than occasionally replacing pads that’s all the maintenance I do. Best thing about hub gears is you can change gear while stationary.
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ILL Machina posted:https://i.imgur.com/Dy9NUrl.mp4 Having never experienced a tornado before, where the gently caress should this guy be besides as far away from this poo poo as possible? It seems like the building might provide adequate shelter, and since the guy seems to have lived to post the video, it must have, but maybe in another circumstance it wouldn't have. But being out in the middle of the golf course would be worse?
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wesleywillis posted:Having never experienced a tornado before, where the gently caress should this guy be besides as far away from this poo poo as possible? At the very least he should be prone on the ground and covering his head.
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It's been decades since I was in serious tornado country, but I seem to recall that if you're caught in the open the best place is to find a ditch and lay down in it I assume to get below the debris as much as possible
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What the gently caress
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Cartoon Man posted:
I am absolutely stunned they did this. Cool I guess.
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I was going to say it looked like that guy was using an energy weapon, turns out I was closer than I thought
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Bikes in the Netherlands are used in all weather, at low speed with no hills, and usually minimal maintenance. Coaster brakes are a good option in that environment. Many of the bikes will also have a front brake, but just as many do not. It really isn't necessary.
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welcome to hell posted:Bikes in the Netherlands are used in all weather, at low speed with no hills, and usually minimal maintenance. Coaster brakes are a good option in that environment. Many of the bikes will also have a front brake, but just as many do not. It really isn't necessary. Physics and weight transfer dictate that a rear brake can't be as good as a front brake.
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welcome to hell posted:Bikes in the Netherlands are used in all weather, at low speed with no hills, and usually minimal maintenance. Coaster brakes are a good option in that environment. Many of the bikes will also have a front brake, but just as many do not. It really isn't necessary. Due to how weight transfer happens under braking, front brakes do more than 50% of the work when both front and rear brakes are used. Rear brakes actually lose effectiveness the harder you brake, since weight transfers forwards under braking it reduces the grip available at the rear tyre(s) You may feel that in a low speed environment front brakes are not required, but IMO that is only relevant under slow and controlled stopping. Collision avoidance braking using only rears is demonstrably less effective than front braking, and introduces too much risk of loss of control, e.g. locking the rear into a skid, for me to agree front brakes are not required. You will always encounter an idiot at some point that forces you to avoid a collision, and no front brakes increases rider risk in those situations
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Azhais posted:It's been decades since I was in serious tornado country, but I seem to recall that if you're caught in the open the best place is to find a ditch and lay down in it I remember hearing that people tend to go under underpasses, but that is a good object for causing the air to compress and speed up.
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There is one type of overpass that a group of people hid under in the early 90s and it turned into folk wisdom that you hide under an overpass. Oops turns out that design is unique/extremely uncommon and most are more dangerous.
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I think the point is that the Netherlands is so good for bikes, it doesn't matter if your bike is 60-pound turn-of-the-century piece of poo poo with no real brakes. Their infrastructure is so strong that they see nothing wrong with this, and even somehow get the idea that it's better. Hearing the Dutch talk about bikes is like hearing the 1% talk about money. It's just not relevant to the rest of the world.
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Vlaphor posted:This popped up again in the ether and it remains one of my favorite OSHA aware moments. This is from waaaaaay back, but one of the issues that led up to the stonewall riots is the fact that it was illegal to own a gay/lesbian bar, which meant all gay/lesbian bars were underground, mob-run places (that all paid of the local police off course) which were indeed not up to code with OHSA regulation and huge fire traps.
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