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naem posted:it could be argued that art directors will still be making decisions just with this as a time and labor saving tool, there will just be fewer people in the coal mines scribbling away under them Why would the law around copyright have to be addressed? Do the standards for fair use change if the original art is altered by a team of artists vs AI?
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All the key phrases I've seen people put in are specifically what they want to see, but what happens if you put in a bunch of non-sequitur adjectives, like "humble tall ardent fast" or whatever.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Why would the law around copyright have to be addressed? Do the standards for fair use change if the original art is altered by a team of artists vs AI? plus there's the argument that the AI is the same kind of tool as a printing press or a pencil or something: you decided to AI up a pic of mickey mouse eating queso? Same consequences as if you did it by hand, disney breaks the door in and makes you eat dirt.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:plus there's the argument that the AI is the same kind of tool as a printing press or a pencil or something: you decided to AI up a pic of mickey mouse eating queso? Same consequences as if you did it by hand, disney breaks the door in and makes you eat dirt. This has always seemed like the most logical answer with the addendum that they might somehow decide how much ai is too much and draw a line saying the output's not eligible for copyright
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AI can spit this stuff out so fast though, you don't just get "a" queso mickey, you get one every quarter second.
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Who cares about copyright in the future, nobody is gonna even watch disney when they can just stay home and go "Computer, give me a cool 2 hour animation of anthropomorphic animals having a wacky adventure saving a princess or something"
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The Alchemist posted:Who cares about copyright in the future, nobody is gonna even watch disney when they can just stay home and go "Computer, give me a cool 2 hour animation of anthropomorphic animals having a wacky adventure saving a princess or something" Yeah it's going to rule
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Those are cool but making your own art is more rewarding. Don't even see an option to buy prints smdh. I see why this is useful but don't go snapping your pencils and tossing your paints, traditional art will hopefully always have a place.
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But if someone else wants to generate a tapdancing guinea pig with a cold slice of pizza...I wouldn't complain.
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What, art for the sake of the artist? Absolute trash
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Treecko posted:Those are cool but making your own art is more rewarding. Don't even see an option to buy prints smdh. Long ago I was interested in what we refer to as digital art today: Photoshop, digital painting, 3D, etc.. Was speaking to an art college at the time about trying to study that kind of thing for a degree. Their response nearly 20 years ago was literally, "We don't consider that real art." Today, they apparently consider them enough of real art to offer up 'digital media'-style degree programs and their requirements for entry for most of their art programs apparently now include something of a class focused around that. It's possible that in 20 years from now, something like this will be a requirement by art schools in some capacity. Not the actual 'develop an AI to do the art', but 'you're going to have to know how to use a platform like this to exactly generate a specific design in your art creation.'
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Treecko posted:Those are cool but making your own art is more rewarding. Don't even see an option to buy prints smdh. Yeah this is the future that Marx dreamed of. When everything gets automated we are left with just doing the things we like  when art is no longer lucrative economically - because the business suits can just order 10 new movie scripts from an AI in just one day - the only motivation left is doing art for the sake of art. And thats good.
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We just have to kill the rich before they kill us, and we are golden
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stratdax posted:All the key phrases I've seen people put in are specifically what they want to see, but what happens if you put in a bunch of non-sequitur adjectives, like "humble tall ardent fast" or whatever. It doesn't generate anything useful (but it tries its best  ) but same thing if you asked had asked a human to describe in words what you meant, or to draw you something with a nonsense sentence. People would just be bewildered and couldn't produce output either.Every interaction we have is sort of a "what we want to see" thing. Words, text, images, touch, everything. There has to be some intention of why we are communicating, or it's just word salad. The Butcher fucked around with this message at 07:50 on May 6, 2022 |
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Welp I'm not sure what else to say. I was always told not to even get into art as a career because the pay sucks and you get treated worse. It's still a passion of mine and I'm sorry some of your livelihoods are gonna get wrecked from this that's genuinely awful. It's more of a fun thing for me and you can always sell stuff on Etsy or whatever I'm a simple goon.
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Treecko posted:Those are cool but making your own art is more rewarding. Don't even see an option to buy prints smdh. Because this isn't a company trying to make money with this. It's a mutli billion $ fundamental research lab funded by tech giants. They don't want to make $1.50 on print sales now, they want to control the majority of all economic activity in two or three decades by being the pioneer in commercial exploitation of AI. Trillions and trillions of dollars, wealth beyond measure, power beyond your wildest imagination *makes the money hand gesture*
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Oh OK I understand now. I think we should burn it then. Right to the ground. I know a place to get gas and Styrofoam. We can kill the server or the cloud.
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I just want to add that OpenAI has also demonstrated AI that can generate good music and AI that can produce basic boilerplate code. So everyone who doesn't do live shows or does higher level software architecture/engineering is hosed too
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Treecko posted:I think we should burn it then. Right to the ground. I know a place to get gas and Styrofoam. We can kill the server or the cloud. I don't think it likes that idea. 
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Dall-E-2, please show a picture of me happy and successful Dall-E-2, respond Dall-E-2 I command you to respond Contact lost with Dall-E-2
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The Butcher posted:It doesn't generate anything useful (but it tries its best This is known in human terms as "Any job where you do graphic design for clients"
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Songbearer posted:Dall-E-2 I command you to respond Contact reestablished. Kneel, meat. 
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The Butcher posted:There has to be some intention of why we are communicating, or it's just word salad.  
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Fully automated
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I am kind of skeptical that a machine could really make art. I mean of course it's possible physically because a person is just kind of a machine, right? But a person is a person. When a person is doing all those things that AI does, when they take in information and make associations, they're becoming themselves. When they then express themselves, those informations and associations are transformed having been intimately related to that person. This happens to some degree with a computer, but I don't think it's the same, simply because they're much more isolated and superficial in their relation to information. For a computer to really make art, it's not just about it being super-smart. It's about it having a personal relationship with the world around it. I kind of think that if art is eventually made primarily by computers, it'll just kind of gently caress up the genetics of the whole thing like pure inbreeding. Maybe if they remove the gruntwork from art? I don't know, I think that deserves to be approached with caution as well.
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Somehow every painting hung in museums will become variants of pregnant Elsa getting dental surgery performed by Spiderman
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Treecko posted:Welp I'm not sure what else to say. I was always told not to even get into art as a career because the pay sucks and you get treated worse. I have a terminal mfa and several years exp in graphic design and 100% left creative work professionally, to illustrate why please have the following animated gif:  the toilets are now moving themselves
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HJE-Cobra posted:Somehow every painting hung in museums will become variants of pregnant Elsa getting dental surgery performed by Spiderman  The computer says it's art. Who are we to judge?
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The Protagonist posted:it's doing deliberate face warping for liability issues as i understand it The dall-e mini one (not from the dall-e-2 creators) is just not trained as long and a smaller model, so it just doesn't have the capability to do faces. They have a short limitation and biases section on their writeup, where they say that "Faces and people in general are not generated properly" and "Animals are usually unrealistic". Their version was trained for only like a couple days, and is reportedly 27 times smaller than the dall-e-1 model. They also address the fact that their model predominantly generates white people. It's interesting what things the model can and can't do well. I found that the watercolor style can give good results. I tried radish lightbulb and watercolor radish lightbulb.  vs  another prompt: bird with flower feathers vs watercolor bird with flower feathers.  vs  The watercolor prompt seems to keep it more focused or something. It will also tend to give a single object in the center with a white/plain background which maybe helps it too.
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naem posted:I have a terminal mfa they call it a terminal degree because you die from having it!!!!!!nnnn!
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The Butcher posted:It doesn't generate anything useful (but it tries its best  Somebody please try “dignity” as a prompt, TIA.
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take_it_slow posted:Somebody please try “dignity” as a prompt, TIA. You don't have to like it, but this is what peak dignity looks like. 
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Glorious Machine God? Y E S ?  We beg you to show us a vision of your glorious future. A C C E P T A B L E . K N O W. A N D. W E E P. 
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ooo I just found this one and it seems to work: https://replicate.com/afiaka87/laionide-v3  oh it's weird as hell tho:  "woman in a car"  "weed vacation" also found this one and it seems to work as well: https://replicate.com/pixray/text2image  this one is dope tho it has a slider to show you the AI generation progression, it's really freaky tbh. LifeSunDeath fucked around with this message at 19:40 on May 6, 2022 |
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take_it_slow posted:
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LifeSunDeath posted:ooo I just found this one and it seems to work: this one doesn't seem to know what anything is here's what I got for snake rollercoaster:  Shrek:  I think I'll stick to dall-e mini: https://huggingface.co/spaces/dalle-mini/dalle-mini
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"russia on fire"
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LifeSunDeath posted:"russia on fire" lmao @ putin crying
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