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Bobby Deluxe posted:I honestly don't think they care, and if they do lose they'll blame it on Long Corbyn and the papers will go with it. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61359522 
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https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2022-05-06/no-dup-executive-return-until-ni-protocol-issues-resolved-donaldson-confirms No big surprise that Donaldson would rather collapse Stormont than be deputy. It's a shame the GFA has no contingency for this.
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Prison Planet Paul Joseph Watson got caught saying what the Right wing actually believes in public. Content warning, dude is racist as hell. https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1522845373164883968
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May 7, 2022 09:17
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Advanced audio technology has allowed us to hear what actually goes on in that basement for the first time.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:99's claim was that they had no other way to get food while out on the road which wasn't true - restaurants had been open for outdoor eating since the 12th. Yeah, but... it's not actually that though, is it? They had to get food, so they had one big delivery, rather than going out and mixing with other members of the public at multiple establishments. I wouldn't expect people to sit outside at 10pm in April either. I also really doubt there were 30 in a room since in the video we have, you can barely even see anyone else in the room at the same time. He's not even close to nudging elbows with anyone else. Maybe the additional evidence will show how naughty it all was, just, you know, take a step back from the outrage and try to be objective (you may still be entirely justified too!). Curry and a beer - would it have been ok if it had been sandwiches and orange juice? Is the real problem that he had something nice? Was the spirit of the covid rules that we all had to be miserable?
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May 7, 2022 10:02
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Reminder that although politics is Bad, dogs are Good. Especially this Boy who is very Good.
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There really is a piss thin vernier that separates the respectable right wing and horrific racist paedophile cabals https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1522859602739712007?s=19
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Not surprised PJW has heated gamer moments, he seems the type.
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OwlFancier posted:And also if he had something wrong with his brain that made him just repeat the same thing over and over in response to questions lol. I had to double check the timeline to make sure it wasn't a really short clip looping.
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Scotlab really grasping the opportunity to take back control of Glasgow City Council with both hands today. https://twitter.com/andrewlearmonth/status/1522606041791352836?t=1qlZxF_OtlPNL6Xz84u0VA
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Gonzo McFee posted:There really is a piss thin vernier that separates the respectable right wing and horrific racist paedophile cabals
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keep punching joe posted:Scotlab really grasping the opportunity to take back control of Glasgow City Council with both hands today. It can't be said enough that dreams of a Leftwing Coalition are all bullshit because the Labour Party hates the left of their own party nevermind the left outside of their party.
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May 7, 2022 10:37
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One of the secret endings of Britain is where every party is revealed to be a branch of the SNP since the 1800s.
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May 7, 2022 10:41
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Is there anywhere to read up in Northern Ireland politics as I'm seeing that someone in the DUP is acting as if the democratic will of the people is not "really" for the people they voted for.
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Josef bugman posted:Is there anywhere to read up in Northern Ireland politics as I'm seeing that someone in the DUP is acting as if the democratic will of the people is not "really" for the people they voted for. The DUP are segregationists. They genuinely don't view Irish Catholics (or anyone who might be inclined to vote for Catholics) as people, and so their opinions do not factor into any meaningful democratic consensus.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Prison Planet Paul Joseph Watson got caught saying what the Right wing actually believes in public. It’s horrendous and entirely predictable, but it really doesn’t sound like him to me. Has it been verified?
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willie_dee posted:It’s horrendous and entirely predictable, but it really doesn’t sound like him to me. Has it been verified? From the article quote:The recording was confirmed by three secondary sources.
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Josef bugman posted:Is there anywhere to read up in Northern Ireland politics as I'm seeing that someone in the DUP is acting as if the democratic will of the people is not "really" for the people they voted for. DUP came out of the Protestant Unionist Party by way of the Doctor Reverend the Ian Paisley of the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster. They want to preserve democracy by denying Catholics the vote because the Pope turns up in person to give every Catholic a small book dictating which way they must vote, so they say, and therefore allowing them the vote isn't democratic. They took over as the largest faction from the Ulster Unionist Party in the 2000s, because some viewed the UUP as a bit too soft. TUV are the shouting Big Jim Allister faction who think that the DUP are a bit too soft. A couple more compaction cycles time and the main loyalist party will be the Literally Doing Nothing But Standing There Screaming No Surrender Party.
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fuctifino posted:From the article Ah I didn’t see that, thanks. Someone else has also pointed out his YouTube voice is not his real voice.
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glad to see the tories breaking another milestone and getting up to -400 council seats, inspiring
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Guavanaut posted:One of the secret endings of Britain is where every party is revealed to be
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Josef bugman posted:Is there anywhere to read up in Northern Ireland politics as I'm seeing that someone in the DUP is acting as if the democratic will of the people is not "really" for the people they voted for. Delusional, bible thumping, young earth creationist, anti catholic people with a well developed siege mentality. Not much room is left for critical thinking (that's probably anathema to them). As a former catholic (yay atheism!!!  ) here in Northern Ireland i will admit my bias on the matter.Not exactly looking forward to getting ruled directly by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: Brandon Lewis but that is what happens when we can't achieve a local government here. 
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Angepain posted:glad to see the tories breaking another milestone and getting up to -400 council seats, inspiring Plenty of new council budgets for them to slash for austerity 2.0
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I've been Catholic all my life and I want my goddamn orders from the Pope and my riches please, this is bullshit
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HopperUK posted:I've been Catholic all my life and I want my goddamn orders from the Pope and my riches please, this is bullshit You'll get to eat fish on Fridays and be content with your lot. 
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Okay but it seems as if the DUP are continuing to lose popularity and the other unionist groups all hate each other as much as they hate anyone else. So what is the end game here? What can be done to end the problem without the DUP or unionist groups getting increasingly armed and belligerent?
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On the current trajectory the Unionists in NI are in inexorable decline: the Unionist population is on average older than the Nationalists and has fewer children: they're shrinking year by year as a proportion of the total population. They also have no political leverage at Westminister and no coherent alternative to the Nationalist plan for a United Ireland. To regain momentum, they'd need some kind of fundamental change, and their whole thing is resistance to change, so....
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For anyone not paying attention to NI politics it’s hard to overstate just how badly the DUP hosed up by getting into bed with Theresa May and subsequently getting hosed by Boris. It’s all extremely amusing. In other news - Hancock becoming a crypto evangelist seems entirely on brand 
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I remember when crypto meant cryptography and the Tories hated it because terrorists could send cat pictures over Skype without the Home Office being able to see them. Now that it refers to a ponzi scam rather than anything of any use to anyone they love it.
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Pistol_Pete posted:On the current trajectory the Unionists in NI are in inexorable decline: the Unionist population is on average older than the Nationalists and has fewer children: they're shrinking year by year as a proportion of the total population. They also have no political leverage at Westminister and no coherent alternative to the Nationalist plan for a United Ireland. To regain momentum, they'd need some kind of fundamental change, and their whole thing is resistance to change, so.... NI census results start to get published next month, should be interesting.
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The NI results also throw another spanner in the Brexit works as there will not now be a majority in favour of ditching the protocol in a couple of years when it comes to an assembly vote. Something the Tories were no doubt very much hoping would happen.
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As someone from the US: Was this result anticipated by polls or expected? I thought the Torries and Boris had pretty solid control due to your own insane boomer bloc?
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It's council elections, not the main national legislative body (unless you're in NI) And the tories have been slipping in the polls because boris is an idiot who can't stop getting caught being one, tories can't go five minutes without collapsing under a pile of their own filth and that does generally translate to temporary reduction in polling in the goldfish brained electorate. The main funny bit is that labour are doing a piss poor job of actually capitalizing on those tory losses, as the votes are largely going everywhere but them.
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My grandad was an Irish Presbyterian Royal Marine, plus an alcoholic and an abuser, so I'm pretty loving glad I never got to meet him. The first thing he ever said to my mum when he met her was "you're not a loving Catholic are you?". Lovely person.
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i'm reading the starmer project just now and it's very detailed but also full of a lot of names and bodies that i wasn't previously aware of so i'm trying not to take all of it at face value. it is giving me a clearer idea of the guy though - although that idea is basically in line with what i had already gleaned from general discussion and observation. i'm just reading the bit where he was undermining corbyn while being part of his shadow cabinet and it's making me want a book about that with more of a focus on the media involvement. is there a good shortish book on that subject anyone can recommend?
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Tarnop posted:Plenty of new council budgets for them to slash for austerity 2.0 makes an interesting dynamic now that all the poor as poo poo councils led to tory mps getting into power are now firmly back into labours orbit, which means that defunding them further will probably just make local people hate their mp again, but this time it’s a tory mp in the way of public opprobrium
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TulliusCicero posted:As someone from the US: The Tories have lurched into insane territory to get the extreme edge cases on board whilst taking their traditional supporters for granted. So they are tied into really stupid ideas and their mainstream supporters think they've lost it. In the UK local elections are the time for people to ignore party affiliation and protest vote. Unfortunately the labour party are at least equally dysfunctional but with a smaller share of the vote so the Tories will continue to rule unopposed until something changes drastically. The two party system falls on it's arse when both main parties meltdown simultaneously. Ordinarily when one goes nuts they get toppled by other. A failed state.
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The media spent the last six months hammering the Tories over the parties and loudly predicting (read: demanding) that This is It, Labour will Now Sweep It and Boris Must Resign, because Boris is a complete embarrassment that the media is solely responsible for. Except that the past few years of indoctrinating the thumb crowd into backing Boris in the face of all reality aren't so easy to undo, and Labour are so useless that nobody wanted to vote for them, so here we are. And now elections are past, they've taken their thumb off the scale and they're done giving Keith an easy ride, so the beer story lurches back into view.
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