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roomtone posted:i don't think there's any way to contextualise this satisfactorily. francesca's attitude in that scene indicates it's something he does all the time, too. they should just ignore it. he's shown zero trace of being a sexual harasser in BCS and i don't think he ever acts like that again in BB anyway. he definitely does, the honey tits thing is in one of the final S4 episodes; her penultimate appearance in the show. I guess Vince and co will come up with an explanation for it, like the Saul character, house, mannerisms, workplace sexual harrasment etc are all part of a smokescreen to disguise jimmy's identity, maybe it's all to protect Kim in some way or something? It'll obviously need some sort of retcon.
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we see saul’s house from the BB era in ep 1 of this season with panties and bottles of viagra strewn about. maybe both him and Kim adopt the high roller swinger lifestyle
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May 7, 2022 20:37
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Last Chance posted:we see saul’s house from the BB era in ep 1 of this season with panties and bottles of viagra strewn about. maybe both him and Kim adopt the high roller swinger lifestyle That's true, which pretty much cements the writers' intent on making him go full sleeze.
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Last Chance posted:we see saul’s house from the BB era in ep 1 of this season with panties and bottles of viagra strewn about. maybe both him and Kim adopt the high roller swinger lifestyle he has a tunnel like gus, every day he comes home and takes of his goodman-suit, removes his goodman-toupe, puts on some sweatpants and uses the tunnel to join kim to watch old movies and drink a bottle of zafira anejo
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Samopsa posted:he has a tunnel like gus, every day he comes home and takes of his goodman-suit, removes his goodman-toupe, puts on some sweatpants and uses the tunnel to join kim to watch old movies and drink a bottle of zafira anejo A great job for the fake Saul who passes him in the tunnel and goes into the house to bang hookers.
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May 7, 2022 21:04
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Cojawfee posted:A great job for the fake Saul who passes him in the tunnel and goes into the house to bang hookers. And who's the fake Saul you ask? hamlin dressed as Saul, after jimmy and Kim's plot he decides to embrace his new image, dump his wife, and joins forces with the dastardly duo
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May 7, 2022 21:18
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I mean it's apparently still 2004, so there's still four years for Jimmy to go full sleaze
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May 8, 2022 03:52
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How are there 400 new posts here? Did someone die irl?
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May 8, 2022 04:39
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May 8, 2022 04:40
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it’s Howard hustle!
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May 8, 2022 04:44
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That's the sin that will ultimately get Howard shot in the face by Lalo, thinking "Jimmy Hustle" is an okay nickname even if he respects the man
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May 8, 2022 05:18
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Man I tried watching the last half season of Ozark and it just stinks. I guess it's easy to write a show that has "dramatic" events unfolding logically but it's all so convoluted and impossible to care about or keep track of. I feel like it's barely even a story, just a bunch of stuff happening and occasionally someone gets murdered. BB and BCS may not be perfect but it really is grade school tee-ball versus the New York Yankees.
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Ingmar terdman posted:
I've always had this weird thought that he looked kind of like Adam Sandler in a bad costume in this image, and only this image. SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I mean it's apparently still 2004, so there's still four years for Jimmy to go full sleaze My thought on this is that something bad is going to happen to someone he cares about. Jimmy tends to get increasingly "Saul-like" rather than deal with the trauma in his life. His best friend dying? He decides to stop letting the rules hold him back. His brother dies? Rather than admit he feels anything at all about it, he goes public with becoming Saul Goodman, new name and new man. Every other time there's been a major emotional blow to Jimmy he's responded by hiding it behind Saul Goodman. So I figure one last major thing happens that just pushes him to go all in.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Yeah like I’m on episode three and like the little things bother me. Since this is from the first few episodes of the first season, I do not bother spoilering it: Yeah, my biggest problem was that Marty really has no reason to trust Ruth, or even keep her around. She is uncooperative, threatens to turn witness, or kill him and steal the money. Marty should just call his cartel buddies that some hick posse stole their barrels full of cash, isn't giving it back, and give the address for where to go pick it up. They might not exactly like Marty at that point, but they surely would safeguard their investments against other criminals, if for nothing else than to not look weak. If the Langmores were to disappear without a trace, no law enforcement agent would care enough to go looking for them, since they would just write down that they skipped town. And if they turn out somewhere as bodies in barrels they will just be written off as "they messed with someone they shouldn't have" like they in this scenario would have done. ...And to keep this relevant to the topic, I find BB and BCS miles ahead in writing, they usually do not have these types of leaps of plausibility. Unless we are talking about Lalo actually doing the leaping.
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The Huell cigarette thing was a stretch, but it then allowed us to see it (and believe it) two more times, so 
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christmas boots posted:Yeah, that should be it. Also if you go back to when they get married, the marriage certificate is dated May 16 2004 My wife and I share an anniversary with Jimmy and Kim 
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Not sure if this was posted already but it's great to see them together again, and Bob has an amazing guffaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-8N4B8bzA
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drat, I didn't really notice it until that video but Bob could probably do a perfect Biden impersonation without even trying.
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Mameluke posted:That's the sin that will ultimately get Howard shot in the face by Lalo, thinking "Jimmy Hustle" is an okay nickname even if he respects the man It's Charlie Hustle. He was a baseball player who set the record for hits in a career, and then got banned for life for gambling on games his team played. I always liked the layers of that nickname.
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Mameluke posted:That's the sin that will ultimately get Howard shot in the face by Lalo, thinking "Jimmy Hustle" is an okay nickname even if he respects the man Not once up until this point had I thought about the fate of Howard during the BB timeline, strangely.
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Chamale posted:It's Charlie Hustle. He was a baseball player who set the record for hits in a career, and then got banned for life for gambling on games his team played. I always liked the layers of that nickname. It's also the baseball player's nickname - his name is Pete Rose.
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Wheeee posted:What else right now is actually good? Winning Time is fantastic.
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very random but I was just thinking of the show tmw and remembered this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TohDsmT8tA gently caress you Walter, Mike was right.
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gently caress Mike, hypocritical piece of poo poo. Kaylee will be better without that blood money in her life.
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Barreft posted:very random but I was just thinking of the show tmw and remembered this: I think in this case, Walter has a point. The "knowing his place" Mike talks about would have involved letting Jesse get killed by those dealers who had just murdered a child. Gus really miscalculated by taking the side of those dealers when it was clear that Jesse did not want them to put a kid's life at risk. On the whole Walt's actions are indefensible, but in protecting Jesse against those dealers and then killing Gale, he seems to have handled it in the only way he could.
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He could have intervened in meaningful and helpful fashion any of the various times Jesse was emotionally not well, such as reaching out to him and trying to help him before he tries to go die in a gunfight.
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My feeling is that the show (while incredible) has gone too slow and left it too late to actually show us the complete change from Jimmy to Saul. The writers clearly fell in love with Jimmy and would rather explore that side of him. I suspect we'll get a few glimpses of the Saul we know from BB then skip over that character development to Gene
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Like, when Walt killed those guys, he didn't happen on to the scene by chance. He was either tailing them or tailing Jesse and the latter is far more likely. He could've intervened with Jesse before he got there without killing anyone, but that's not the way Walt is. The episode Fly shows that he does have affection, remorse etc towards Jesse that is real, but that far is outweighed by the fact that all his actions are based around using and keeping Jesse as a pawn. Case in point, his later poisoning of Brock.
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Alan_Shore posted:My feeling is that the show (while incredible) has gone too slow and left it too late to actually show us the complete change from Jimmy to Saul. Well, counterpoint to this, we have a bunch of pure, 99.1% Saul in BrBa already.
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Theres still plenty of BCS left for the full heel turn. Also, he was basically well on his way when Chuck died, but they did the Lalo thing with a purpose to bring him back. I have hope they'll stick the landing
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we probably only need a flash forward and 2-3 episodes of him being Full Saul tbh
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Chamale posted:I think in this case, Walter has a point. The "knowing his place" Mike talks about would have involved letting Jesse get killed by those dealers who had just murdered a child. Gus really miscalculated by taking the side of those dealers when it was clear that Jesse did not want them to put a kid's life at risk. On the whole Walt's actions are indefensible, but in the case that led to him killing Gus, he seems to have handled it in the best way he could. I've been thinking about it lately and I think Gus's first big blunder was letting Walt fire Gale, at which point he was now relying on two men who were violently dysfunctional. Gale was reliable and could cook meth that, for Gus's purposes, were just as good. His second blunder was giving Jesse a second chance after Jesse tried to kill two of Gus's men, and his third blunder was letting Walt live after he really did kill two of Gus's men. And I think all this basically only happens because Gus is suckered in by the ridiculous 96%-vs-99%-pure-meth posturing. Basically, Gus should've had Mike shoot Walt and Jesse to death the day he learned about them, which is what he would've done if their meth was, like, 94% pure and regular-colored. Gus obviously understands that Walt is an unstable narcissist and Jesse is a "contemptible junkie," because that's how he manipulates Walt them both. But he still gives them authority and impunity in his organization because he really wants that magic best meth ever dammit. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 04:04 on May 9, 2022 |
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I feel that Jimmy has already mostly transitioned to Saul. He just needs to have a tragedy of losing the love of his life to cement it.
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BabyRyoga posted:Not once up until this point had I thought about the fate of Howard during the BB timeline, strangely. Howard's kind of a wild card, I'm very interested to see where he goes but I think it will be a dark place that helps crystallize Jimmy into Saul
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Civilized Fishbot posted:I've been thinking about it lately and I think Gus's first big blunder was letting Walt fire Gale, at which point he was now relying on two men who were violently dysfunctional. Gale was reliable and could cook meth that, for Gus's purposes, were just as good. His second blunder was giving Jesse a second chance after Jesse tried to kill two of Gus's men, and his third blunder was letting Walt live after he really did kill two of Gus's men. This point always bothered me a bit as well. There are a few sloppy things in the build up to Gus that I never really liked, but the payoff is so good I never minded. Realistically, they should've made Gale's meth less pure because as you said, it was pretty ridiculous how much they did to accommodate Walt for a practically negligible difference in terms of their sales base. I have no idea how pure street meth actually is, but it would've been more believable if it were like 85% vs 99%. As soon as Walt started making demands like firing Gale, Gus should've eliminated him immediately. Especially after learning the Gale backstory, it's one of the things that makes less sense.
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For me, the pacing of the character arcs are basically fine. But the plot progression feels incredibly slow. In Breaking Bad, for the most part something tidily happens every season: S1: Getting started and dealing with Tuco. S2: Striking out on their own culminating in meeting Gus. S3: Working with Gus. S4: Working against Gus. S5A: Striking out on their own (again). S5B: Coasting to an ending based on the above. In BCS, it consistently feels like nothing really happens in a given season. I haven't rewatched it as much as BB, but I think it goes something like: Season 1 is a very tight intro that could be a done in one but the season 2 premiere immediately walks back on it. Then it's Jimmy vs Chuck until season 3, maybe 4, it all kinda blurs together. Then a season (two maybe?) of no lawyering. And now for that last season or so he's Saul, but not really really. There's more going on if you include Mike's plot lines, but it's hard for me to consider it the "main" plot, instead of just checking prequel boxes.
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anime was right posted:i mean it almost works because gus is a perfectionist Sure, and it's likely a huge point they're making about Gus, but it's not like he wants to keep the 99% man on after the Gale murder. He basically decides Jessie's 96% is decent enough even though Walt's likely to be compliant from that point on until his cancerous death.
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