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I just want the thread title to be changed to #MomsForMorbius
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For Dr Strange I did enjoy that they Basically got right in with the Wanda stuff from the start. I immediately noticed her slip up in naming America and was pleasantly surprised. The trailers intentionally made it look like she'd start off okay and then get corrupted later in the film, constantly fighting against it like we've seen with Phoenix in the X-Men films, so this was a nice surprise and a refreshing change
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May 9, 2022 09:51
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Lol the third act of Dr Strange was delightfully deranged. Grinning all the way thru it. Peak Marvel.
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May 9, 2022 10:40
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I will say one EXTREMELY disappointing thing about Dr. Strange - where the heck is Ted Raimi????
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May 9, 2022 11:59
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I wish they had allowed more horror/comedy. The obvious raimi parts were the best parts.
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May 9, 2022 12:35
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Shageletic posted:Lol the third act of Dr Strange was delightfully deranged. Grinning all the way thru it. Peak Marvel. Only in a Raimi film would we have a climax where the main character uses dark magic to possess the corpse of an alternate version of himself, who then flies around with a cape made out of dark spirits
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May 9, 2022 14:21
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I'm really glad Wong is still sorcerer supreme. I didn't think they'd kill him off or anything but I fully expected him to pass the torch back by the end of the movie
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May 9, 2022 14:26
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Wong is a good character. As
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May 9, 2022 15:15
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Mr Hootington posted:I wish they had allowed more horror/comedy. The obvious raimi parts were the best parts. I was hooting when Strange revealed he was going to dreamwalk into the body of the dead alternate universe Doctor Strange. Supposedly Raimi didn't have a lot of say in the script, but there is no way that wasn't his idea.
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May 9, 2022 16:32
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CaptainApathyUK posted:For Dr Strange I did enjoy that they Basically got right in with the Wanda stuff from the start. I immediately noticed her slip up in naming America and was pleasantly surprised. "You didn't--" "I didn't say her name, no"
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May 9, 2022 16:49
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theironjef posted:Oh nice, for Mother's Day, Morbius will be available nine days after Mother's Day! At least they're consistent with their release dates
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May 9, 2022 18:28
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I’m going to die on this hill but Dr Strange 2 Electric Boogaloo of Madness is my favourite Marvel Film. I’m not a die hard Raimi fan but seeing every tool from his bag of weird low budget horror tricks did something for me. Highly stylised. Felt like Captain America 2 in the sense that it felt like it had its own feel born from a genre specific approach. You may now cancel me for my heinous and villainous opinion but I genuinely enjoyed every second
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May 9, 2022 20:42
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Medullah posted:I will say one EXTREMELY disappointing thing about Dr. Strange - where the heck is Ted Raimi???? OK, I'm not 100% sure about this, but after Wanda assaults Kamartaj, there's a brief moment in the aftermath where a badly injured wizard is screaming and mugging desperately to the camera while dragging himself across the ground before Wanda turns him to ash with red magic, and I think that was Ted Raimi. It was a very Ted Raimi moment.
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May 9, 2022 21:09
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I might have gone to the bathroom when they did but they explain the Big green cow dude at any point?
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May 9, 2022 21:18
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Opopanax posted:I might have gone to the bathroom when they did but they explain the Big green cow dude at any point? Nope!
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May 9, 2022 21:23
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i know i saw him in the comics, but i do not remember where
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May 9, 2022 21:28
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Soonmot posted:i know i saw him in the comics, but i do not remember where his name is Rintrah, he worked for the guy that fixed the cloak of levitation and eventually became Strange's apprentice in the late eighties/early nineties.
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May 9, 2022 21:47
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CaptainApathyUK posted:For Dr Strange I did enjoy that they Basically got right in with the Wanda stuff from the start. I immediately noticed her slip up in naming America and was pleasantly surprised. I had avoided all the spoilers, other than the obvious character reveal in the trailer, and was totally surprised by Wanda heel turning right away. I thought she was going to team up with Strange, have good cop/bad cop adventures, fight the real big bad and learn a lesson about using power responsibly. When they were talking in the orchard I found it odd how Strange said the blossoms smelled real but when Wanda said America's name I went "Oh poo poo..." Then she just drops the act and reveals the hellscape.
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May 9, 2022 23:45
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Please do more films Sami Rami. I forgive you for Spiderman 3  my god I loved every second of this film. I was just grinning ear to ear. Also that was ShumaGortah right?
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May 9, 2022 23:48
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Shindragon posted:Please do more films Sami Rami. I forgive you for Spiderman 3 Technically no because they don't own the name.
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May 9, 2022 23:55
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Shindragon posted:Please do more films Sami Rami. I forgive you for Spiderman 3 Yes-ish. Basically yes, Marvel doesn’t have the rights to call him that (he’s tied to Conan’s licensing) so all toys and promotional materials call him Gargantos, but functionally that was the MCU Shuma. That also means the first demon that kills Defender Strange and almost gets America and which looked identical to Cobweb from the comics was likely Cobweb, which is one hell of a deep cut.
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May 9, 2022 23:55
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Ah makes sense, still it was pretty cool.
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May 10, 2022 00:06
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Overall, I really, really liked the movie, but I'm more bent out of shape by America's portrayal than Wanda's. Taking a very proactive queer character from the comics and basically stripping out any queerness from her (wearing a pin that even straight allies wear is not representation) and also making her basically a scared kid so Strange can get some surrogate dad feels is very very blah. And, like, you could get to the same ending while having her be more true to the comics: Have her deal with all her problems by punching them. She beats Shuma-Gorath in the scene in NY after Wong and Strange soften it up, maybe she catches the lamp-post Strange yeets and uses it to give the killing blow. And then her arc is about using her heart/head instead of her fists to solve problems, Strange having to constantly pull her back from trying to fight and getting herself killed (bonus points if you tie this to losing her moms and her trying to commit suicide by Scarlet Witch). Culminating in the same climax where she realises she can't fight Wanda, but needs to give her what she thinks she wants in order to beat her.
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May 10, 2022 01:47
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Gaz-L posted:Overall, I really, really liked the movie, but I'm more bent out of shape by America's portrayal than Wanda's. Taking a very proactive queer character from the comics and basically stripping out any queerness from her (wearing a pin that even straight allies wear is not representation) and also making her basically a scared kid so Strange can get some surrogate dad feels is very very blah. And, like, you could get to the same ending while having her be more true to the comics: Have her deal with all her problems by punching them. She beats Shuma-Gorath in the scene in NY after Wong and Strange soften it up, maybe she catches the lamp-post Strange yeets and uses it to give the killing blow. And then her arc is about using her heart/head instead of her fists to solve problems, Strange having to constantly pull her back from trying to fight and getting herself killed (bonus points if you tie this to losing her moms and her trying to commit suicide by Scarlet Witch). Culminating in the same climax where she realises she can't fight Wanda, but needs to give her what she thinks she wants in order to beat her. I would expect that the next time she shows up they will go more into her identity
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May 10, 2022 01:58
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Man, its not my top movie, but MoM is totally in my top 5. I read back and a lot of what I thought has been said but lol I cannot get over how the story line this sets up is Children's Crusade. The biggest thing I had to accept though was this wasn't Comics America, who calls Kate princess and tells older heros to get stuffed, but she's going to be there someday. But now i want America, Kate and Yelana together in something.
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May 10, 2022 02:38
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Gaz-L posted:Overall, I really, really liked the movie, but I'm more bent out of shape by America's portrayal than Wanda's. Taking a very proactive queer character from the comics and basically stripping out any queerness from her (wearing a pin that even straight allies wear is not representation) and also making her basically a scared kid so Strange can get some surrogate dad feels is very very blah. And, like, you could get to the same ending while having her be more true to the comics: Have her deal with all her problems by punching them. She beats Shuma-Gorath in the scene in NY after Wong and Strange soften it up, maybe she catches the lamp-post Strange yeets and uses it to give the killing blow. And then her arc is about using her heart/head instead of her fists to solve problems, Strange having to constantly pull her back from trying to fight and getting herself killed (bonus points if you tie this to losing her moms and her trying to commit suicide by Scarlet Witch). Culminating in the same climax where she realises she can't fight Wanda, but needs to give her what she thinks she wants in order to beat her.
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May 10, 2022 03:14
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She also had a bunch of queer slogans written all over her jacket in Sharpie. In the scene where she was lying on that plinth thing, the phrase "Amor es Amor" is super prominent, for example.
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May 10, 2022 03:25
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I just want a Golden Girls-esque sitcom with Kate, Yelena, and America. Clint can be their bumbling landlord or something.
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May 10, 2022 04:45
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Give us the Young Avengers already
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May 10, 2022 04:54
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I just want a Golden Girls-esque sitcom with Kate, Yelena, and America. Clint can be their bumbling landlord or something. Clint's a good dad. He'd make sure Kate has enough arrows and then tell them to not stay out too late.
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May 10, 2022 04:56
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theironjef posted:She also had a bunch of queer slogans written all over her jacket in Sharpie.  I'll admit, another one of the reasons I was disappointed with the conclusion of this film is that I had thought, maybe foolishly, that this movie would bring us a tiny step closer to having Billy and Tommy fully realized in the MCU...and yet, what actually ended up happening is that the ending here seemed to move us even further from that goal. At this point there's basically no hint as to when it would happen at all, barring some wild speculative theorycrafting about the Agatha show.
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May 10, 2022 04:57
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also in a sitcom like setting Yelena is like the cat that keeps bringing home dead birds
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May 10, 2022 04:57
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BrianWilly posted:...Diversity win?
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May 10, 2022 05:00
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They have to wait a bit to age them up because those child actors are awful.
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May 10, 2022 05:08
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They’re barely characters lol. I don’t want more of them
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May 10, 2022 05:11
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean…I don’t know if that’s the case when there is now a character that can travel between universes and the film establishes that the two kids exist in alternate universes
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May 10, 2022 05:18
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BrianWilly posted:Eh, wouldn't be the same. I'd want the Wiccan and Speed that are actually our Wanda's children, who definitively belong in the "616." Besides, I think it would be very weird for America to go and drag some random kids from other universes into ours considering the whole film was about how Wanda probably shouldn't do that. I mean Billy and Tommy's souls are sent to the past after being unmade and grow up in different families there's no reason they can't do the same here
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May 10, 2022 05:28
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Yeah it's not like the comics version is any less complicated
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May 10, 2022 05:37
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Aphrodite posted:They have to wait a bit to age them up because those child actors are awful.  I mean, child actors are rarely good so I don't want to be too hard on them but uh... on the off-chance they don't just recast with slightly older kids before the inevitable YA movie/series (which is what I predict will happen), Disney better shell out for some acting classes
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Nodosaur posted:Billy and Tommy's souls are sent to the past after being unmade and grow up in different families
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