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cheetah7071 posted:I think they more meant that Eric takes so long to enrage that they're surprised that you failed the enrage without it just being a wipe earlier in the fight Bruceski posted:Congratulations on turning their "well done surviving all that" into "git good" I guess? Funnily enough that is exactly what I meant. Most groups either wipe way before enrage or clear way before it. Congratz on surviving to the end I guess?
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May 10, 2022 01:13
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Vargs posted:I liked the SAM questline until it came down to revolutionaries vs corrupt cops, and you are forced to happily side with Team Cop. In an expansion where every interaction with said cops is negative and you regularly lead bloody revolutions. Politically the game is pretty hosed up. Like the Rogues story is about the value of having a group of black ops extrajudicial murderers who are answerable only to their own code of honour running around to stop terrorists. Only Jacke Bauer can save Limsa Lominsa, real cops are too civilised to get the job done.
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May 10, 2022 01:15
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Hommando posted:You can rent my house for 1.2m gil a month. No Namazu vendors allowed.
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May 10, 2022 01:19
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Vargs posted:I liked the SAM questline until it came down to revolutionaries vs corrupt cops, and you are forced to happily side with Team Cop. In an expansion where every interaction with said cops is negative and you regularly lead bloody revolutions.
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May 10, 2022 01:22
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Bruceski posted:
https://www.screentogif.com/ ScreenToGif is great.
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May 10, 2022 01:24
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I can’t stop you from cheating, and frankly the dev mostly can’t either. Even if they took down their code someone could always pick it back up, it’s out in the wild at this point But that’s where the stance is
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May 10, 2022 01:48
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Vargs posted:I liked the SAM questline until it came down to revolutionaries vs corrupt cops, and you are forced to happily side with Team Cop. In an expansion where every interaction with said cops is negative and you regularly lead bloody revolutions. The villain isn't proposing a positive program of social upheaval and the abolition of the class system, but bloody-minded revenge against the nobility and a laissez-faire "we'll figure it out later" attitude to what comes after, something that has, historically, not turned out especially well.
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May 10, 2022 01:48
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RME posted:I can’t stop you from cheating, and frankly the dev mostly can’t either. Even if they took down their code someone could always pick it back up, it’s out in the wild at this point 
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May 10, 2022 01:52
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which part is bait
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May 10, 2022 01:56
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careful they might reply to you with another epic own pic
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May 10, 2022 01:57
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Vermain posted:The villain isn't proposing a positive program of social upheaval and the abolition of the class system, but bloody-minded revenge against the nobility and a laissez-faire "we'll figure it out later" attitude to what comes after, something that has, historically, not turned out especially well. Isn’t the whole climax of the SAM storyline your buddy saying that yes, the baddie is completely right about how messed up Kugane’s traditions are, but then she points out that he ultimately just wants violence for the sake of violence?
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May 10, 2022 02:05
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I mean if you want an actual effort post out of me: I think it's completely absurd to gatekeep an accessibility mod. That's like the direct counterpoint to making accessibility features. So pointing at that take and going "this is a good point" is just really stupid to me. Also just because Yoshi-P says that fat fingering buttons is intended difficulty doesn't make it any less stupid of a point and calling it cheating to press 1 button instead of 2 is big reach. You still have to have knowledge of your job and the fight at hand to do things correctly. If you were calling Cactbot cheating I'd absolutely agree. But getting rid of some button bloat when controller hotbar space can get very cramped? Nah man you're just being ridiculous.
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May 10, 2022 02:08
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Controller is absolutely not cramped lol it has more easy to reach buttons than keyboard
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May 10, 2022 02:10
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:i got shooters waiting at the exit of every dungeon and at the tome vendor so if you zone out of stigmascape and you got hit by a mechanic youre dead meat This, but specifically if you eat the mines on the last boss in Smileton for uptime and expect me to Esuna you 
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May 10, 2022 02:11
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The in game documentation of how to set up a controller to let you access all those buttons is truly atrocious though
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I mean if you want an actual effort post out of me: I think it's completely absurd to gatekeep an accessibility mod. That's like the direct counterpoint to making accessibility features. So pointing at that take and going "this is a good point" is just really stupid to me. It literally is cheating. Just own up to it man. Feel free to use it but that's what it is!
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May 10, 2022 02:12
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The only mod you need is the one that turns the buffalo calf into a car
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May 10, 2022 02:18
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is using a plugin to fix netcode intended for sub-30ms pings but deployed in such a way that people will have 100 pings within the same regional location as the datacenter also cheating?
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May 10, 2022 02:19
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Considering what that addon can do, yes it is also literally cheating unless you think changing an option to make you able to triple weave is somehow fine.
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May 10, 2022 02:21
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Altering the client's gameplay control and/or networking packets is cheating, yeah.
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May 10, 2022 02:21
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Warmachine posted:Huh, I have my lovely DPS from my first Aglaia in FFLogs. You can enter that log into https://xivanalysis.com/ to get tips on what to improve, it's neat! This whole topic has actually made me look myself up in the few public logs I have and now I'm more interested in it than I was before. FF Logs lets you upload private/unlisted too so you don't have to worry about platforming other peoples' shame when all you want is to self improve. Which makes it funny that I have any logs up at all - what kind of dork is trying to get on the fflogs rankings on a duty finder match of Aglaia? Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 02:29 on May 10, 2022 |
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May 10, 2022 02:25
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I'm sitting here whistling because (Storytime!) back in Sigmascape I used a zoomhack because as a melee DPS some of those boss models were absolutely loving huge and I'd clip them and be unable to tab target (Looking at you doomtrain!). Some jackass found an unlisted video I posted to a forum showing a tank absolutely destroying the party during Kefka and some mofo downloaded it to rehost on streamable. They then proceeded to post an edited screencap of this on r/ffxiv where the top comment was "I wish I could zoom out further". I also got @'d several times by them on twitter and on the balance discord. Also lowkey kinda surprised they waited until now to slap down when a few months ago they had bigtime WoW people streaming with an ACT (And later QuickLauncher) UI replacement.
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Fiye posted:Also lowkey kinda surprised they waited until now to slap down when a few months ago they had bigtime WoW people streaming with an ACT (And later QuickLauncher) UI replacement. It's likely because the Ultimate race brought the issue into sharper focus beyond just the "I made parts of my UI look nicer/be more functional" angle, and so this is a gentle-but-firm reminder of their current stance on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they're looking into their options for 7.0. It's probably not possible to lock away a lot of the game's data without intrusive anticheat, especially with the current client, and they likely don't want to lock out otherwise benign tools like ACT's parser or Anamnesis. They could work to sponsor "official" versions of those tools to ensure players have that functionality, but that starts getting into tricky terrain over ownership and still doesn't address the complete lack of any similar tools for console players.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Considering what that addon can do, yes it is also literally cheating unless you think changing an option to make you able to triple weave is somehow fine. what if you don't use that function? what if you use the program for it's intended purposes, which is to prevent clipping on double-weaving with a high ping - is that cheating?
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Frida Call Me posted:what if you don't use that function? what if you use the program for it's intended purposes, which is to prevent clipping on double-weaving with a high ping - is that cheating? Yes, because what that program does is quite literally cheating.
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May 10, 2022 02:34
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To be fair the reason why no one really cares about their dumb threats and continues to use mods is because their policy is so stupid in the first place. Like "cheaty addons are cheating" is reasonable, but when your policy is "all mods are cheating" then cheating doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. I will continue to be a cheaty-rear end cheater who cheats by using a mod that tells me the name of the song that is currently playing. And I'm not even joking, as that falls under their policy of "modifying the UI to display additional information is cheating!!!" Yes, but who cares? Like, there are people that use actual hacks and cheats in WoW, but I don't know a single one because most people don't. Square Enix's policy is so dumb that even average players just ignore it and a sizable percentage of players 'cheat' because their definition of it barely even makes sense.
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Frida Call Me posted:what if you don't use that function? what if you use the program for it's intended purposes, which is to prevent clipping on double-weaving with a high ping - is that cheating? Yes, because that functionality is not accessible to every person playing the game (re: console players), unless the proposal is that you should simply purchase a PC capable of playing the game and accompanying PC license if you have a high ping. Gaining a software-level advantage in a game that isn't accessible to every player equally is the textbook definition of cheating.
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got it, wheelchair ramps are cheating!
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Frida Call Me posted:got it, wheelchair ramps are cheating! lol
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Frida Call Me posted:got it, wheelchair ramps are cheating! ??????????????????
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What are you competing in here exactly outside of Actual PvP that constitutes an "unfair advantage"? Parse numbers that don't matter? I sincerely doubt that the average joe using xivcombo or whatever this netcode plugin thing is are racing for Ultimate world first.
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If I just used a speedhack in pve, would that not be cheating? I'm not running for world first so it shouldn't matter. Or if I used a geometry hack to get OOB to dodge mechanics? It's just client side so I'm not really doing anything that would affect the game outside of my group. It's all degrees of the same stuff. And conflating some of this stuff with actual accessibility issue is extremely poor taste. Orcs and Ostriches fucked around with this message at 02:46 on May 10, 2022 |
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the point is not to go "the rules of the game are arbitrary, so when i break them its fine because those rules arent real". the rules are the rules. if you have what you feel is a justifiable reason to break them, own it. you cant have it both ways. also Frida Call Me posted:got it, wheelchair ramps are cheating! this is loving gross and as a person with a physical disability that this game is good about letting me play through, gently caress you
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To be clear, I have no idea how this netcode thing works and obviously just Triple or Quadruple Weaving for free is some nebulous poo poo. I mostly am just curious at what perceived advantage is being seen in xivcombo that is apparently so gamechanging as to be called cheating. For advantages in.... something? It doesn't even work in PvP because those skillsets are already condensed.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I mostly am just curious at what perceived advantage is being seen in xivcombo that is apparently so gamechanging. The game is explicitly designed around having accurate mechanical control over your actions, including your filler combos. It's as much a point as PVE content as dodging and other mechanics. You can argue that it's bad design or whatever, but it's the stated goal of the developers. Those that do have a disadvantage, as much or little as it matters, as those that consolidate them onto the same buttons.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:To be clear, I have no idea how this netcode thing works and obviously just Triple or Quadruple Weaving for free is some nebulous poo poo. My primary concern is always that increasing normalization of third-party tools to gain personal advantages will be increasingly expected, if not mandatory, for high level gameplay. This was already seen in the most recent Ultimate with the use of auto-markers and audio callouts (and I'd be very surprised if the non-JP players weren't running Alexander on the sly), but it can very easily filter down into the general population. That you'd have DBM installed and ready in WoW for dungeons and raids was not just desired but demanded, and a similar situation could easily crop up with people feeling pressured to adopt extensive ACT callouts or outright software-level cheats to increase their own performance relative to everyone else who's already adopted them.
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I feel like trying to argue easier inputting is cheating is kind of pointless because there are a lot of things you can do which are cheating, especially with gaming mice and such. Like it's extremely trivial, for example, to set up your gaming mouse so it taps certain buttons on cool down, effectively removing the need for you to press them yourself. If you have a particularly nice one you can basically set up a macro that perfectly does your opener at the touch of a button. (Easiest for ranged DPS but I'm sure you can do it for other classes.) Even if you don't have mods people are going to have unfair advantages in the game unless they are playing on PC with specific hardware. You can pretty trivially replicate the effects of something like XIVcombo. Like I get it would make the game less fun for people but at the moment you still can do exactly that it just involves specialized hardware, which sucks for people playing on console/without specialized hardware who could benefit from it from anything to reducing button bloat to making it easier on hold person hands. I use a gaming mouse myself and while I don't use macros I do have a much easier time doing things because I have 8 buttons my thumb can press any time. (I also have Glare/etc on a single button I can hold down instead of needing to tap because that is how healers roll.) You can't police hardware but I feel like it makes more sense to give people access to tools instead of trying to keep them out and in turn you just end up saying certain people can get the advantages but others can't. This obviously doesn't count for super super for-real cheating stuff because that fuckin' sucks, but if the barrier to someone playing a class isn't their ability to play it but their ability to play it comfortably that is something developers should find a way to fix.
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Sure is cool that it takes some people twice as long as normal to get Garo gear because the MMR apparently doesn’t work. I’m going something like 10 losses for every 1 win in Bronze.
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I think the best realistic solution is to provide a number of classes with distinct playstyles and feels so that if you hate combos or can't double weave you can just play a class where that isn't an issue, even on PS4 Which is already the case, as it turns out, though I'm very sympathetic to the idea that too many every melee classes are combo based in the current setup and in general that more can be done to ensure that everybody has a class that feels good for them
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