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I don't think this is entirely realistic tbh depending on the situation.
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cheetah7071 posted:I think the best realistic solution is to provide a number of classes with distinct playstyles and feels so that if you hate combos or can't double weave you can just play a class where that isn't an issue, even on PS4 I 100% agree with this in theory but they lock both rewards and plot behind at minimum playing one of every class.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I mean if you want an actual effort post out of me: I think it's completely absurd to gatekeep an accessibility mod. That's like the direct counterpoint to making accessibility features. So pointing at that take and going "this is a good point" is just really stupid to me. cactbot is cheating too so is xivalexander, regardless of the funny thing where they outline their own definition of cheating to go "well see we don't fit it" triggernometery does cheating things as well its not exclusive. Also, I can't gatekeep anyone dude. Like, I can, at most, call it lame as for perceived advantage, it literally makes the game easier? like, people mess up combos, and not just bad players. It's a real part of fights and people are lying if they said they don't ever do it outside of like, true dummy situations
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ImpAtom posted:I 100% agree with this in theory but they lock both rewards and plot behind at minimum playing one of every class. yeah perhaps it should be amended to "more can be done to make sure everyone has at least one class that feels good to them per role quest"
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May 10, 2022 02:58
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ImpAtom posted:I feel like trying to argue easier inputting is cheating is kind of pointless because there are a lot of things you can do which are cheating, especially with gaming mice and such. This is more or less what I've been getting at but I'm bad at words more often than not. My original snarky image response was to the developer take that xivcombo should only be used by people that need it. An incredibly dumb take that is basically impossible to enforce or make judgments on. And I'd pose this question: Do you consider it cheating for people with physical disabilities to use such a plugin? What kind of disabilities? Where do you draw the line between "this is someone that needs this feature" and "this is cheating and provides an unfair advantage"? I'd wager a guess that you can't comfortably make that call or put forth a concrete criteria to make a distinction. Which is why I said that gatekeeping an accessibility mod is a really stupid take to have. YoshiOfYellow fucked around with this message at 03:05 on May 10, 2022 |
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May 10, 2022 03:02
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speaking of plugins has anyone noticed anything weird with XIVLauncher lately? it seems like the first time I try to use it every time it closes FFXIV after it gets to the SQUARE ENIX splash page and then I have to log in again. it always works fine the second time
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May 10, 2022 03:04
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Badger of Basra posted:speaking of plugins I had this happen to me last night. No idea what the issue is. A little annoying but it is what it is I guess. Best you can do is submit a bug report to their discord.
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I basically don't care as long as it doesn't start becoming so normalized and expected that eking out every advantage you can from plugins is something they'll expect in a random PF which is why I push back so hard on condensed combos being an option in-game because I don't want to have to make my class less fun to play to meet the expectations of the party I'm in. And in general, I think that having classes with fewer buttons is already an accessibility option that exists already for people for whom drg is just unplayable or whatever, though it can go further
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May 10, 2022 03:07
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from the community that virulently opposes transphobia i bring you the latest take! ableism! behold our enlightened posting (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 10, 2022 03:08
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Frida Call Me posted:from the community that virulently opposes transphobia i bring you the latest take! ableism! behold our enlightened posting lmao shut up
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Frida Call Me posted:from the community that virulently opposes transphobia i bring you the latest take! ableism! behold our enlightened posting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLRv0b6wJlA
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Selane posted:To be fair the reason why no one really cares about their dumb threats and continues to use mods is because their policy is so stupid in the first place. Like "cheaty addons are cheating" is reasonable, but when your policy is "all mods are cheating" then cheating doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. I will continue to be a cheaty-rear end cheater who cheats by using a mod that tells me the name of the song that is currently playing. And I'm not even joking, as that falls under their policy of "modifying the UI to display additional information is cheating!!!" Yes, but who cares? Their policy isn't "stupid," just look at the debate going on right now ITT over what constitutes a "real" gameplay advantage. That stuff's hard to define in a way that will satisfy the whole playerbase (and by "hard" I mean "virtually impossible"), so having a blanket "no mods, ever" policy allows them to enforce bans on violations that are grey-area to players but clear-cut to them without kicking off a PR-denting community/developer perspective clash every time one of those bans gains attention. Right now, they ban harmless mods like the orchestrion one as well, because otherwise they have to set public precedents about how they deal with the  mods that do both harmless UI things and actual gameplay advantage-related things, and as they've mentioned, screening mods for acceptability requires research, manpower, dev time, all that. They've got to have some stopgap measure in place until they get around to really dealing with the issue, and that's what the strict-on-paper-but-selectively-enforced bans system is.
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Frida Call Me posted:from the community that virulently opposes transphobia i bring you the latest take! ableism! behold our enlightened posting High ping is not a disability holy poo poo
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Frida Call Me posted:from the community that virulently opposes transphobia i bring you the latest take! ableism! behold our enlightened posting you are literally the one being ableist by using disabled people as a cudgel in your argument for why you should be allowed to spoof animations to the server to fix your ping
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Frida Call Me posted:from the community that virulently opposes transphobia i bring you the latest take! ableism! behold our enlightened posting Frida Call Me posted:yes everyone uploading parses for normal content is definitely using it in a passive aggressive manner to shame you and not as a tool to potentially improve their own gameplay I dunno if you've played other MMOs with serious combat/raid scenes, but practically speaking, enabling parsing to be talked about does in fact lead to people being incredibly petty and lovely even in the easiest content. We've got almost decades of WoW history to look at to prove this, lol. And I know you wanna try and pull this discussion back to all mods to try and get some tiny win here but the whole thing started and was about parse tools and other raid callout functions. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 10, 2022 |
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ok but we can agree that moving to japan to have a better ping is cheating, because not everyone can do that
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YoshiOfYellow posted:To be clear, I have no idea how this netcode thing works and obviously just Triple or Quadruple Weaving for free is some nebulous poo poo. XIVCombo just makes it so you can mindlessly press 1 button and do your combo instead of spreading it to 1-2-3. I never used it on DRG because hitting 3, 4, or 5 helps my muscle memory with positionals (And I use an ingame macro to swap hotbars between combos). XIVAlexander is a hacking tool that look at your ping and deducts that time from the native .5 second delay your oGCDs have which simulates having very low ping. Its undetectable by fflogs (Otherwise your parse would be red and your rear end would be banned from rankings and it would be VERY OBVIOUS you did) and doesn't exceed what ppl who live near what the servers can do. At least unless you edit XIVAlexander and then you risk getting flagged by fflogs. Here's their quoted text of it. quote:Latency and Timing Helper All the stuff that's native to XIVLauncher (Without using third party repos like BDTH) intentionally don't mess with packet data and just gently caress with things client side and aren't detected by the game.
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can we agree that working for Square Enix NA's server team and raiding from the office is cheating because not everyone has the technical know-how to land that job
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Impermanent posted:ok but we can agree that moving to japan to have a better ping is cheating, because not everyone can do that ill allow it
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Vitamean posted:can we agree that working for Square Enix NA's server team and raiding from the office is cheating because not everyone has the technical know-how to land that job it's cheating because they get to know the mechanics ahead of time
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RME posted:it's cheating because they get to know the mechanics ahead of time Getting the codex to see Fate Calibration alpha and beta mechanics before they happen is cheating.
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If you think the posts here are bad, imagine how stank it must have been on the JP forums to instigate all this
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You know it smell crazy in there!
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Kazy posted:https://www.screentogif.com/ Thanks. I'll have to poke a bit to figure out which settings give the best quality to filesize ratio, but now I can show off. 
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No Mods No Masters posted:If you think the posts here are bad, imagine how stank it must have been on the JP forums to instigate all this whatever thread started the private emulated practice server rumor must've been a real hoot
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Vermain posted:whatever thread started the private emulated practice server rumor must've been a real hoot Saw it on twitter first because TPS cleared TEA so fast. Its funny seeing that get brought up 2 and a half years later.
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i always have to wonder how easy people think making a private server is much less a private server that's up to date
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I dunno if you've played other MMOs with serious combat/raid scenes, but practically speaking, enabling parsing to be talked about does in fact lead to people being incredibly petty and lovely even in the easiest content. We've got almost decades of WoW history to look at to prove this, lol. And I know you wanna try and pull this discussion back to all mods to try and get some tiny win here but the whole thing started and was about parse tools and other raid callout functions. WoW is as bad as it is because the GMs dont do anything and let people be as lovely as they want, about anything. It's not just because you can call people slurs over dps numbers.
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Kazy posted:https://www.screentogif.com/ Neat! Bruceski posted:Thanks. I'll have to poke a bit to figure out which settings give the best quality to filesize ratio, but now I can show off. NEAT
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I genuinely didn't expect to kick a hornet's nest with that post, what have I unleashed  Actual legitimate question, I picked up RPR in order to have a melee job but I'm really not feeling the playstyle. Which of the other melee jobs would you suggest I try out? I should note I'm connecting to Primal from NZ in order to play with literally my entire friend group, so my ping isn't the greatest. I can dodge pretty reliably but double weaving is sketchy at best.
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basically every melee involves some level of double weaving so if its a huge, consistent problem for you youll have to play another role. i would say, having recently gotten them all to 90, that monk has the least among whats available now so i would give that a shot.
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:basically every melee involves some level of double weaving so if its a huge, consistent problem for you youll have to play another role. i would say, having recently gotten them all to 90, that monk has the least among whats available now so i would give that a shot. I'm still leveling up Monk through 80+, but it has a pretty limited number of doubles, yeah. It's mostly just Riddle of Wind/Riddle of Fire/Brotherhood occasionally overlapping, but you can probably single weave them just fine.
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i'd ask how far you got with reaper; until you get enshroud at 80 it's, uh, not great in my opinion (and dire at lower levels. to me if feels very much like they designed it almost exclusively around 80-90 and everything before that is just...ugh) but i really enjoyed it from there but that's also why i don't take reaper into roulettes so if that's the issue and you want a "main", well, yeah, maybe check out samurai or monk as mentioned? Oneiros fucked around with this message at 03:50 on May 10, 2022 |
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Bloody Pom posted:Actual legitimate question, I picked up RPR in order to have a melee job but I'm really not feeling the playstyle. Which of the other melee jobs would you suggest I try out? I should note I'm connecting to Primal from NZ in order to play with literally my entire friend group, so my ping isn't the greatest. I can dodge pretty reliably but double weaving is sketchy at best. I don't have good advice on ping-friendly melee jobs (because the other one I play is DRG), but I do recommend reserving judgement on RPR until you hit 80. Its core loop feels pretty barebones until you get your second gauge, but once you do it comes together into something more satisfying.
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Oneiros posted:i'd ask how far you got with reaper; until you get enshroud at 80 it's, uh, not great in my opinion (and dire at lower levels. to me if feels very much like they designed it almost exclusively around 80-90 and everything before that is just...ugh) but i really enjoyed it from there I'll mostly be doing it for role quest completionism, and yeah 70-80 so far has felt pretty dire. Melee and healers are something I'll more or less be doing out of obligation, I'm a tank main and I'll probably stick to magical/ranged for DPS.
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Bloody Pom posted:I genuinely didn't expect to kick a hornet's nest with that post, what have I unleashed Samurai can play effectively without a ton of double weaving.
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Reaper 70-80 really felt like a 1-50 job lmao.
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with your ping enshroud may not feel very good anyway since it puts you in sicko mode with some double-weaves as part of the burst phase
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Fiye posted:Reaper 70-80 really felt like a 1-50 job lmao. and 50 rpr feels like baby's first mmo job here you go kiddo 1-2-3 good job!
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