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Stereotype posted:people really don't like it when i inform them, correctly, that america is not a democracy. your vote doesn't matter. the results of whatever legislative election you vote in are pre-determined by a computer algorithm ran by the most ghoulish people you can imagine to ensure that district boundaries result in a republican controlled legislature. your district is either a landslide for democrats or it is an assured victory for republicans. the supreme court has already ruled several times that this, while maybe not technically ideal, is impossible to prevent in any way. we live in a brutal theocracy dominated by a fringe minority of extremists and the party of the majority is nothing but feckless pathetic corporate stooges who couldn't care less about anything other than their own re-election, which is actually greatly enhanced due to these completely undemocratically drawn maps. keep going 
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May 10, 2022 01:02
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it's not the Dems fault they can't do anything they lost lost this one election Why'd they lose that? Well-
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May 10, 2022 01:18
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Stereotype posted:people really don't like it when i inform them, correctly, that america is not a democracy. your vote doesn't matter. the results of whatever legislative election you vote in are pre-determined by a computer algorithm ran by the most ghoulish people you can imagine to ensure that district boundaries result in a republican controlled legislature. your district is either a landslide for democrats or it is an assured victory for republicans. the supreme court has already ruled several times that this, while maybe not technically ideal, is impossible to prevent in any way. we live in a brutal theocracy dominated by a fringe minority of extremists and the party of the majority is nothing but feckless pathetic corporate stooges who couldn't care less about anything other than their own re-election, which is actually greatly enhanced due to these completely undemocratically drawn maps.
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May 10, 2022 01:25
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I was thinking about Wisconsin but it’s the entire country
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May 10, 2022 02:22
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tiberion02 posted:is this an Ohio specific post, or merely a coincidence? Ohio is going to get destroyed in 2022
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May 10, 2022 02:32
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1523812812434329602
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May 10, 2022 02:53
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we do have a strong republican party, it's called "the democrats"
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May 10, 2022 02:55
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Stereotype posted:we do have a strong republican party, it's called "the democrats" no, that would be the weak republican party.
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May 10, 2022 03:13
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So the official top house Dem position on fixing a right to choose is, "let the Republicans do it when they change their party to be pro-choice" Bold strategy, let's see if it works out.
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May 10, 2022 03:57
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it would actually be pretty good if the republican party passed policies that the democrats pretend to care about
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May 10, 2022 03:59
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i love vote! #demsdeliver
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May 10, 2022 05:31
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I want the democrat party to get destroyed in 2022
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May 10, 2022 05:52
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I want the democrat party to get destroyed in 2022
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May 10, 2022 06:31
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THS2 posted:my retirement plan is to induce schizophrenia on myself by taking 30 benedryl - a day for a few months this, but by taking 30 CSPAM a day everyday
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May 10, 2022 06:45
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Cloks posted:Ohio is going to get destroyed in 2022 my body is ready
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May 10, 2022 07:43
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How is she still doing this poo poo? How are people are still buying it?
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May 10, 2022 07:48
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smug jeebus posted:How is she still doing this poo poo? How are people are still buying it?
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May 10, 2022 07:48
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smug jeebus posted:How is she still doing this poo poo? How are people are still buying it? everyone is either crushingly depressed or intentionally oblivious
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May 10, 2022 07:49
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Stereotype posted:people really don't like it when i inform them, correctly, that america is not a democracy. your vote doesn't matter. the results of whatever legislative election you vote in are pre-determined by a computer algorithm ran by the most ghoulish people you can imagine to ensure that district boundaries result in a republican controlled legislature. your district is either a landslide for democrats or it is an assured victory for republicans. the supreme court has already ruled several times that this, while maybe not technically ideal, is impossible to prevent in any way. we live in a brutal theocracy dominated by a fringe minority of extremists and the party of the majority is nothing but feckless pathetic corporate stooges who couldn't care less about anything other than their own re-election, which is actually greatly enhanced due to these completely undemocratically drawn maps. While this is 100% correct, there is a short podcast from 538 that came out a few years ago which actually made a pretty good case why the line I bolded is more or less correct. I think it's just called Gerrymandering if anyone is interested. It took a few examples of states trying varying "solutions" to address what you lay out as the problem and how it turned out (spoiler: they all had wildly bad results). I don't think I'm going against the grain in this thread to argue that democracy isn't an emancipatory form of government and that podcast moved the needle for me in terms of taking a suspicion and giving it a little more substance.
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May 10, 2022 11:29
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smug jeebus posted:How is she still doing this poo poo? How are people are still buying it? MSDOS KAPITAL posted:it's all anyone can afford
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May 10, 2022 13:09
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Cloks posted:Ohio is going to get destroyed in 2022 Ohio will be last habitable zone in the US
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May 10, 2022 13:26
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Ohio will be last habitable zone in the US when do we expect it to transition to being "habitable"?
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May 10, 2022 13:27
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:when do we expect it to transition to being "habitable"? oh sorry i wasn’t very clear. it’s going to be the last habitable zone in the sense that EVERYWHERE else is going to be turbo hosed by climate change. Ohio isn’t changing. Ohio is eternal
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May 10, 2022 13:33
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:oh sorry i wasn’t very clear. it’s going to be the last habitable zone in the sense that EVERYWHERE else is going to be turbo hosed by climate change. Ohio isn’t changing.
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May 10, 2022 13:53
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Ohio Gozaimas.
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May 10, 2022 14:28
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:oh sorry i wasn’t very clear. it’s going to be the last habitable zone in the sense that EVERYWHERE else is going to be turbo hosed by climate change. Ohio isn’t changing. keep it in the sad sack thread for climate freaks please
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May 10, 2022 17:35
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democracy in the us is working just fine. you can tell because the same person has been the head of the democrat party since I was in high school. I’m 31 years old
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May 10, 2022 17:42
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LastInLine posted:While this is 100% correct, there is a short podcast from 538 that came out a few years ago which actually made a pretty good case why the line I bolded is more or less correct. I think it's just called Gerrymandering if anyone is interested. It took a few examples of states trying varying "solutions" to address what you lay out as the problem and how it turned out (spoiler: they all had wildly bad results). I used to try to come up with a solution for gerrymandering by creating an algorithm that would draw a series of squares that contain the same number of people. Then I realized this is all pageantry, and the solution is to outlaw billionaires and individually owned media.
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May 10, 2022 19:15
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Even the rich slave owners who made the constitution knew how to avoid gerrymandering. They put in a clause that there should be at least one district per 20k people. You cannot gerrymander a safe district with 20k people. The government wisely decided to ignore that requirement for the sake of pragmatism.
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May 10, 2022 19:32
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Chamale posted:I used to try to come up with a solution for gerrymandering by creating an algorithm that would draw a series of squares that contain the same number of people. Then I realized this is all pageantry, and the solution is to outlaw billionaires and individually owned media. some people have done this before, coming up with metrics to measure how fair districts are and all that. but go ahead trying to get that to become law; the average politician probably has trouble grasping the concept of average so it's gonna be a tough sell. and that's before you get to the fact that everyone is happy with the current arrangement: republicans get to win elections and democrats get incredibly safe seats that guarantee a lifetime job
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May 10, 2022 19:33
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ikanreed posted:
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May 10, 2022 19:46
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:some people have done this before, coming up with metrics to measure how fair districts are and all that. but go ahead trying to get that to become law; the average politician probably has trouble grasping the concept of average so it's gonna be a tough sell. and that's before you get to the fact that everyone is happy with the current arrangement: republicans get to win elections and democrats get incredibly safe seats that guarantee a lifetime job The problem is much deeper than a fair algo can solve, sorting of dem voters into urban areas guarantees any legislative map will always be stacked against them.
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May 10, 2022 19:47
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"Cucked" is one of those terms that's rapidly losing all meaning on the Internet, but I can't think of another term that so neatly encapsulates the present-day Dem mindset. I almost wish she and her colleagues knew how badly they've been out-played by the GOP and they're just playing dumb to save face, rather than them actually being this dumb and out of touch. But I know which is more likely. E: Wild to me that Republicans moved on from Reagan more readily than Dems seem to have. C-Euro has issued a correction as of 19:54 on May 10, 2022 |
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May 10, 2022 19:52
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lol https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1524093402501070852?s=20&t=FCdEYk2cUEzOV_XVh6nGYw twitter has been fun because the liberals are split between the rank and file libs in media who have to at least acknowledge reality exists, and democrat elites who want everyone to shut up about how poo poo's hosed https://twitter.com/mmcauliff/status/1524098613852389377?s=20&t=FCdEYk2cUEzOV_XVh6nGYw Chuck Schumer is the only Democrat in leadership who still has the capacity to just lie to people. Say some poo poo that sounds good while enabling police to actually shut it down.
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May 10, 2022 19:57
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Chamale posted:I used to try to come up with a solution for gerrymandering by creating an algorithm that would draw a series of squares that contain the same number of people. Then I realized this is all pageantry, and the solution is to outlaw billionaires and individually owned media. America is such a political dump that it can't even adopt workable if not perfect solutions used in other anglosphere nations. Politics in Canada and Australia are terrible in ways that are familiar to Americans, but it's certainly possible to draw electoral districts that aren't explicitly designed to ensure permanent one-party rule. America is uniquely broken, and it's going to ensure the Democrat's are destroyed in the coming midterms and every subsequent election. Was a little surprised that the Democratic party couldn't even get voting reform through, as that is of existential importance to their ability to pass policy ever again. But already should be obvious what I didn't understand. Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:and that's before you get to the fact that everyone is happy with the current arrangement: republicans get to win elections and democrats get incredibly safe seats that guarantee a lifetime job
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May 10, 2022 20:15
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C-Euro posted:"Cucked" is one of those terms that's rapidly losing all meaning on the Internet, but I can't think of another term that so neatly encapsulates the present-day Dem mindset. I almost wish she and her colleagues knew how badly they've been out-played by the GOP and they're just playing dumb to save face, rather than them actually being this dumb and out of touch. But I know which is more likely. I remember reading a piece based on an in-depth interview with one of her former staffers a few years ago that perfectly illuminated the ruling philosophy of these morons. The basic idea was that the entire generation Democratic leaders that came of age during the Reagan years was so poisoned by the experience that their entire mindset is that all that the party can do is negotiate with conservatives and corporations to slow-down the erosion of the new deal/great society state. Slow-down, but never stop and never reverse, because corporate conservative victory is inevitable. Anyone who tries to fight back is quickly replaced with someone more compliant.
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Atrocious Joe posted:Chuck Schumer is the only Democrat in leadership who still has the capacity to just lie to people. Say some poo poo that sounds good while enabling police to actually shut it down. the advantage of being the young pup of Dem leadership
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May 10, 2022 20:23
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Yeah okay, that's a very poorly supported statement on my part. What I mean is that smaller districts are very amenable to swings in local sentiment, and answerable to small groups of concerned voters, and physically harder to arrange en masse to invert popular will through just shape. I don't think it's actually impossible, but the laws of probability make it much much much harder. It's not even an ideal solution, but just an already well understood problem 250 years ago.
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https://foreverwars.substack.com/p/policing-abortion-as-terrorism really good article on how easy it is for the antiterrorism apparatus to be turned on abortion protestors (or anyone else) which is why you gotta VOTE is "ultra-MAGA" the dems' big phrase this time around? poo poo that's already going on hats/bumper stickers/flags lmao DoubleDonut posted:it would actually be pretty good if the republican party passed policies that the democrats pretend to care about it's extremely fortunate for the dems nobody ever convinced trump create some kind of universal health care for Real Americans Only and call it Trumpcare because he'd absolutely go for it and Rs would win for generations Dr. Kyle Farnsworth has issued a correction as of 00:01 on May 11, 2022 |
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