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I used to loathe playing tank with lucio/mercy as my support line but now I think it might just be the absolute strongest healer duo. Raw healing output is absolutely less important than utility the way OW2 is now and I'm glad, it feels a lot better to play for sure.
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how dare the deepee-essers exist in my game??Wheeee posted:yea they haven't gone far enough but OW2 feels substantially better already they changed soldiers recoil 18 months ago I think? Around the time that Valorant came out, I think Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 09:32 on May 10, 2022 |
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May 10, 2022 09:28
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Wheeee posted:lol I blame Battleborn getting unfairly matched up against Overwatch even though any actual similarities the two had besides being colorful FPS's was minimal, in a better world Battleborn would still be alive and receiving support and that would satisfy the need for a FPS MOBA(honestly it's a hybrid genre that is surprisingly underserved right now)
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May 10, 2022 11:41
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blizz could make ow2 not totally blow dongs and release mod tools/map editor. then we could have our battleborn game mode. that beta was super fun.
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May 10, 2022 13:38
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Jesus why would Twitch ever spend that much for OWL they had to see the game didn't have the numbers.drrockso20 posted:I blame Battleborn getting unfairly matched up against Overwatch even though any actual similarities the two had besides being colorful FPS's was minimal, in a better world Battleborn would still be alive and receiving support and that would satisfy the need for a FPS MOBA(honestly it's a hybrid genre that is surprisingly underserved right now) MNC was already a better game than OW and if they'd moved it to FPS and not hosed up the sequel it would've been the godking.
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drrockso20 posted:I blame Battleborn getting unfairly matched up against Overwatch even though any actual similarities the two had besides being colorful FPS's was minimal, in a better world Battleborn would still be alive and receiving support and that would satisfy the need for a FPS MOBA(honestly it's a hybrid genre that is surprisingly underserved right now) Shooter mobas is a literal graveyard of a genre, off the top of my head - Battleborn, Crucible, Paragon, Gigantic all completely tanked. Monday Night Combat did alright but then they hosed up SMNC.
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May 10, 2022 14:05
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:it takes half a match to get a healer though and its always lucio No... NO!!! Not LUCIO!!! Not one of the best healers!!!!!!!
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May 10, 2022 14:06
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Its a doomed genre because FPS people don't want to deal with "no skill" abilities while trying to click heads because putting a pixel on another pixel is the one true skill, and people like myself want to play a fast paced team ability game without having to worry much about mechanics. This divide makes everyone unhappy.
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headcase posted:Its a doomed genre because FPS people don't want to deal with "no skill" abilities while trying to click heads because putting a pixel on another pixel is the one true skill, and people like myself want to play a fast paced team ability game without having to worry much about mechanics. This divide makes everyone unhappy. quote:Shooter mobas is a literal graveyard of a genre, off the top of my head - Battleborn, Crucible, Paragon, Gigantic all completely tanked. Monday Night Combat did alright but then they hosed up SMNC. No Wave fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 10, 2022 |
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May 10, 2022 14:31
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No Wave posted:"FPS people" have to wait 10 minutes for a game, maybe that's a problem? Someone was bragging about open queue only taking a few seconds a few post back. I don't get the bitching about role queue you don't have to do it, open queue exists. It's like ranting about arcade modes or some poo poo.
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May 10, 2022 14:49
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Well when they super-buff one role, then it makes open queue inherently broken since whichever team has more players on that role wins the game. Open queue is not a viable option for OW2, as a result
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May 10, 2022 15:32
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DrunkPanda posted:Well when they super-buff one role, then it makes open queue inherently broken since whichever team has more players on that role wins the game. Open queue is not a viable option for OW2, as a result How is that different from OW1 open queue 6 dps shenanigans?
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socialsecurity posted:Someone was bragging about open queue only taking a few seconds a few post back. I don't get the bitching about role queue you don't have to do it, open queue exists. It's like ranting about arcade modes or some poo poo. I am convinced that at least some people that want to play hitscan in overwatch vs other games do it for a reason. They actually like the feeling of being well supported by a mercy or other support, and actually want to take pot shots at enemy supports that can't shoot back. They don't want to play a game where everyone is on equal footing. The fun part is being a shooter in a world of non-shooters. Trying to carry on their own mechanics in a game of mostly Damage role would out them. DrunkPanda posted:Well when they super-buff one role, then it makes open queue inherently broken since whichever team has more players on that role wins the game. Open queue is not a viable option for OW2, as a result Are tanks super buff without a 2:1 healer:tank ratio? It seems like they would be sitting ducks in most open queue games. I haven't tried it.
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headcase posted:I am convinced that at least some people that want to play hitscan in overwatch vs other games do it for a reason. They actually like the feeling of being well supported by a mercy or other support, and actually want to take pot shots at enemy supports that can't shoot back. They don't want to play a game where everyone is on equal footing. The fun part is being a shooter in a world of non-shooters. Trying to carry on their own mechanics in a game of mostly Damage role would out them.
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they should cut the damage back a bit on DPS and see if it's just reflexes or actual skill like positioning
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No Wave posted:Wow, these guys sound like perverts. They should be locked up. It's fine. they are locked in queue jail.
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Yeah instead we just queue tank, slam roadhog, or dva if someone picked him first, and dps that way. Sucks about your L but that's what it is
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What kind of sick gently caress picks a character that gets to shoot things in a shoot game
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Arzachel posted:What kind of sick gently caress picks a character that gets to shoot things in a shoot game A shoot game would have 12 shootmans. In overwatch, 8 people on the map are doing other things. There are dozens of shoot games, so why do people stand in line for this minority role? because it feels good to be alpha cyborg ninja among beta-cuck mercies. To the original question: why not play open queue? headcase fucked around with this message at 16:38 on May 10, 2022 |
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headcase posted:Its a doomed genre because FPS people don't want to deal with "no skill" abilities while trying to click heads because putting a pixel on another pixel is the one true skill, and people like myself want to play a fast paced team ability game without having to worry much about mechanics. This divide makes everyone unhappy. you are the most powerful poster in this thread every time i read a post of yours i feel like I’m getting fiscaled
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Wheeee posted:you are the most powerful poster in this thread right in the ear
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Arzachel posted:Shooter mobas is a literal graveyard of a genre, off the top of my head - Battleborn, Crucible, Paragon, Gigantic all completely tanked. Monday Night Combat did alright but then they hosed up SMNC. Man MNC on xbla was so good. Legitimately a lot of fun then they rebalanced it and hosed everything.
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If you think overwatch is bad you should play paladins for a bit to see how much worse it could be.
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paladins feels good to play, i like how ults are balanced to be much lower impact in that game. overwatch also feels good to play, other than ults.
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Head clickers be like this: (all bunched up and sweaty, meticulously putting one pixel on top of another). But support mains be like This: (extremely relaxed, cool-headedly managing the economy of the match).
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ultimates feel less oppressive now between 5v5 and people generally being more spread out, at least
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They feel less oppressive because they charge slower but they're still really good
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yeah the game in general feels better with the less frequent ults, but the last minute or so of a round people often start stockpiling them so you still get those fights where 4-5 people on each team press Q at the end.
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I actually think the game feels worse in terms of flow with less ults and they should have been tweaked to just be less powerful or made better ults.
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i'd love to see the player count of open queue vs role queue. it's so refreshing being able to play game after game after game in open.
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i tried playing open and got a lot of very sloggy stalematey matches of like double or triple tank and double healer vs double or triple tank and double healer and went back to the role queue lol
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Open queue seems a lot more exhausting on new maps where people are still trying to figure out what works in terms of positioning and comp. Lots of weird awful feeling matches on those but when you roll an OW1 map I've had some of the best games ive played on the beta
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Countblanc posted:yeah the game in general feels better with the less frequent ults, but the last minute or so of a round people often start stockpiling them so you still get those fights where 4-5 people on each team press Q at the end. I liked 2cp as a mode, because the wincon rewards the team that can build six ults the fastest and then all push Q at the same time, but it really sucks when you're on the team that can't do that, so it's probably best that they solve that problem two different ways in order to make sure it's well and truly dead
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hanamura was a really unfun map. i'd love to see the assets again, but what a poo poo design.
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DoctorJones posted:hanamura was a really unfun map. i'd love to see the assets again, but what a poo poo design. Struggled with that first choke point eh
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DoctorJones posted:hanamura was a really unfun map. i'd love to see the assets again, but what a poo poo design. This is a lot of the maps honestly. Yeah OW maps made a lot of assumptions that shields would be in coordinated play, instead of what the actual game played like, so they are all singular choke points with really long sight lines and 4 or 5 hitscan hero’s without damage drop off. OW has a lot of fun cool individual design decisions with some really really bad overall design choices that kill cohesion.
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:This is a lot of the maps honestly. Yeah OW maps made a lot of assumptions that shields would be in coordinated play, instead of what the actual game played like, so they are all singular choke points with really long sight lines and 4 or 5 hitscan hero’s without damage drop off. OW has a lot of fun cool individual design decisions with some really really bad overall design choices that kill cohesion.
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Hanamura and Anubis are easily my least favorite maps in OW1's current state. Since a lot of people in here haven't played OW1 in a while, they recently removed Horizon and Paris from the quick play queue because of the mass exodus of players from the lobby whenever they'd pop up. Paris never really bothered me at all though.
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I really liked the look of Paris. I'm not good enough to know why it sucks, though. Horizon I just found extremely unfun.
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