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CelticPredator posted:Yes. It’s very much a sam Raimi movie. I'd like to think a true Sam Raimi is a bit more then simply a few easter eggs, and a slight horror bent, but maybe that's me.
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May 10, 2022 19:22
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Every Marvel movie is Gamemaster Anthony's birthday now.
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May 10, 2022 19:23
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I mean Marvel movies let Gunn do his thing so I can’t see why they wouldn’t let Raimi. If they wanted a yes man there are so many better options
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May 10, 2022 19:28
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Famethrowa posted:I'd like to think a true Sam Raimi is a bit more then simply a few easter eggs, and a slight horror bent, but maybe that's me. The whole movie has his style all over it. There isn’t even much in the way of specific movie Easter eggs. It’s just got his weird rear end filmmaking tricks at play. I guess RLM was cynical so that’s why this is the narrative I guess. I don’t know. Sam’s my favorite director and I saw a Sam Raimi marvel movie.
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May 10, 2022 19:30
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I don’t think it’s down to RLM. making GBS threads on Marvel movies is the popular nerd narrative. It’s just the contrarian nature of the internet
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May 10, 2022 19:33
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Marshal Radisic posted:That particular quote has been selectively edited. Apparently what Eisner actually said was something more along the lines of: Thanks, I knew it was more elaborate, but google refused to provide more than options to buy prints of the quote. But I slightly disagree with you, I think the full quote is actually more damning, showing that any deeper meaning, intended or otherwise, is absolutely in the pursuit of profit. Not that that is in question anyway, but it's nice to have have capitalistic scrutiny stated that concise.
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May 10, 2022 19:41
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I mean you can say that about most art, going back to before modern capitalism. Making art for arts sake was never really a thing. At least for art that was produced for mass consumption
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May 10, 2022 19:46
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Raimi's in a position where he could pick up whatever projects he wants to and he loves superhero movies. If he could deal with all the poo poo from the old Spider-Man movies, then he'd be fine with whatever leeway he gets to string together the dialog scenes between Disney's hyper-optimized CG fights. Disney can also pick whichever directors they please, so I imagine they already knew what to expect if they let Raimi do the Wizard Superhero Movie. It's still an MCU movie but at least it's probably in the category of ones where the director decided to do some interesting visuals instead of being completely staid.
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May 10, 2022 20:00
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Did you see the movie
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May 10, 2022 20:04
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What’s funny is that people complain about Marvel movies being samey which you know can be true, but for the most part I think the criticism is basically the same? Like for as much as people talk about the marvel movie at this point it feels like you could just copy paste the complaints and it would be the same thing. At a certain point what are you even getting out of talking about them if you A. Hate them B. Have nothing interesting to say about them
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May 10, 2022 20:08
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CelticPredator posted:Did you see the movie I was thinking about seeing it this weekend. I’m excited to see a Raimi movie but trying to keep my expectations tempered. CharlestheHammer posted:What’s funny is that people complain about Marvel movies being samey which you know can be true, but for the most part I think the criticism is basically the same? As another parallel between the MCU movies and comics, I think it’s become a matter of the creative team on a project more than anything. There’s some work I’m interested in seeing and some that looks like it’ll be workmanlike mush. Sometimes that can be alright to be watch but not go out to theaters for.
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May 10, 2022 20:15
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I’ve seen it twice now. It’s very much a Sam Raimi movie with snap zooms, Dutch angles and random jump scares. It plays the corniest poo poo absolutely straight and doesn’t say “lol we’re kidding”
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May 10, 2022 20:16
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MoM has lot of Raimi shots like actors holding onto the camera during action, several instances of characters just staring into the camera, and exposition overlaid with multiple talking heads. I also believe actually showing characters die was a Raimi choice especially since other Marvel movies have been sorely cowardly about it and the minor Twitter backlash about how MoM should've been "rated R". It isn't up to Raimi's usual standards, but given the baseline of Marvel movies, especially after a mediocre 2021 slate, it looks so much more unique by comparison.
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May 10, 2022 20:18
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don’t think it’s down to RLM. making GBS threads on Marvel movies is the popular nerd narrative.
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May 10, 2022 20:19
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Hell, zombie Doctor Strange is about as blatant as they can get and they had Bennydick Cabbagepatch not only have fun during it, but also have a relatively serious moment too edit - used discord spoiler tags instead of bbcode
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May 10, 2022 20:21
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Raimi hasn’t directed a film since Oz back in 2013. That movie didn’t turn out the way he wanted and was kinda bummed about it. He said after this he’s ready to jump back in and make films again.
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May 10, 2022 20:21
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Nuns with Guns posted:As another parallel between the MCU movies and comics, I think it’s become a matter of the creative team on a project more than anything. There’s some work I’m interested in seeing and some that looks like it’ll be workmanlike mush. Sometimes that can be alright to be watch but not go out to theaters for. Yeah I think that grouping works like these under a franchise heading doesn't work for that reason. "Disney" used to mean something because there was a guy named Disney who was shaping the way things were made according to his personal vision, then for a little while after that guy stopped existing because people were working to match with their impression of what his vision was. Now it's got about as much meaning as "Warner Bros" or "Paramount," but cultural inertia means that people still act like there's a meaningful distinction.
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May 10, 2022 20:22
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CelticPredator posted:I’ve seen it twice now. It’s very much a Sam Raimi movie with snap zooms, Dutch angles and random jump scares. the one time they get close to that was that one Fantastic 4 joke but yeah it's mostly pretty unashamed
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May 10, 2022 20:26
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CelticPredator posted:It plays the corniest poo poo absolutely straight and doesn’t say “lol we’re kidding” It’s nice to hear all of that about the movie but this is a particular relief because I’m tired of how painfully self conscious so many genre films and tv shows feel lately.
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May 10, 2022 20:37
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gimme a straight corny movie instead of a movie that winks and nudges about how corny it is any day
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May 10, 2022 20:38
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i'd rather watch a movie made for adults
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May 10, 2022 20:45
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What movies are those
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May 10, 2022 20:45
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Takeshi Kitano movies
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May 10, 2022 20:48
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Alaois posted:i'd rather watch a movie made for adults why bother watching films, a medium for babies, when you could be reading literature like a real grown up?
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May 10, 2022 20:52
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Alaois posted:i'd rather watch a movie made for adults Bro this isn’t the porn thread
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May 10, 2022 20:55
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Fiction? I thought this was a place for grown ups
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May 10, 2022 20:56
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Only real mature form of entertainment is maps
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May 10, 2022 21:00
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I only know 4 superheroes, Captain America and the Winter Soldier, Hellboy, and BJ Blazkowicz
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May 10, 2022 21:08
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I don't know why they even bothered releasing MoM when Everything Everywhere All At Once came out and says everything there is to say about the multiverse.
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May 10, 2022 21:30
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they pulled a sneaky trick and released mom in britane first
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May 10, 2022 21:38
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CharlestheHammer posted:What’s funny is that people complain about Marvel movies being samey which you know can be true, but for the most part I think the criticism is basically the same? because regardless of how we or literally anyone feels about them they represent a major 'faction' in the movie making world, not just literal MCU stuff but the 'MCU style' that gets aped. This is how mainstream art of any medium goes, a few 'leaders' emerge and their styles influence others and it's worth pointing out that the MCU style really is an absolute cancerous one that focuses on style over substance even moreso than the usual blockbuster/mindless popcorn movies do. Like, I don't know who you're subposting here so yea I guess I agree literally saying the same thing over and over would be dumb but I think a lot of critics find it 'needed' to see the MCU poo poo because they're major cultural touchstones for better or for worse.
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May 10, 2022 22:40
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I disagree with that. Nothing has fundamentally changed, and if the MCU disappeared tomorrow the void would be filled by something more or less the same and people will just complain about that. Though I assume there would be a honeymoon period. I guess people need something to complain about and the MCU does accomplish that
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May 10, 2022 22:49
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Watching Black Panther at 26 made me feel old. I was engaged when people were talking, then tuned out when people were fighting. It did not help that the climax is two guys fighting, each wearing the same dark costume, in a dark mine, with a hyperactive camera.
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May 10, 2022 22:51
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CharlestheHammer posted:What’s funny is that people complain about Marvel movies being samey which you know can be true, but for the most part I think the criticism is basically the same? https://twitter.com/mattsinger/status/1522210480403668997?s=21&t=gK301L4udhGOPU5aZ7fs7g You won. Your child movies for children have crowded out every other genre of film from theaters like a fat cuckoo shoving all the other eggs out of the nest. If I want to go see the, say, new nic cage movie that just came out - starring two theoretically massive draw actors - without going to a 11 PM showing, I have to drive 40 miles from my house. You got to be on top of the cultural hegemony. Now stop being a sore winner about it, you loving baby. E: to make this clear, the problem is not merely that the MCU exists, it’s that it exists in the hands of loving Disney, a company that actively forces insanely predatory contacts on exhibitors, demands unreasonably huge proportions of screen space, has literally had the laws of the country coated to ensure they get more money, and have a known record of forcing theaters to break their contacts with other companies to give Disney more space under threat of being blacklisted from any future Disney releases, ever. You can’t say “oh well something else would fill the void” because this is only happening because the Disney corporation uses their outsize influence like a loving sledgehammer. Babysitter Super Sleuth fucked around with this message at 23:00 on May 10, 2022 |
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May 10, 2022 22:55
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CharlestheHammer posted:I disagree with that. Nothing has fundamentally changed, and if the MCU disappeared tomorrow the void would be filled by something more or less the same and people will just complain about that. Though I assume there would be a honeymoon period. I mean if you're just going to say "I disagree" to a thoughtful post, then what's even the point in posting? If you think about it, these words have been arranged at some point in this exact order mannnnnnnn
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May 10, 2022 22:58
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i would simply disagree
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May 10, 2022 23:03
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SkeletonHero posted:I don't know why they even bothered releasing MoM when Everything Everywhere All At Once came out and says everything there is to say about the multiverse. I hope you're excited for the bevy of multiverse movies to come because movie execs have determined these two films were popular because they had multiverses in them.
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May 10, 2022 23:16
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Pigbuster posted:I hope you're excited for the bevy of multiverse movies to come because movie execs have determined these two films were popular because they had multiverses in them. Jokes on you, I love multiverse movies I even liked The One
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May 10, 2022 23:32
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That movie was the first time I heard down with the sickness and it was the coolest thing my 10 year old self heard ever.
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May 10, 2022 23:35
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SkeletonHero posted:I don't know why they even bothered releasing MoM when Everything Everywhere All At Once came out and says everything there is to say about the multiverse.
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