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I watched a video review of WCW Spring Stampede 1999 this week, and laughed at the 3-person sleeper hold chain on Hogan/DDP/Sting. What's the "record" for most people in a simultaneous sleeper hold chain? Or, if funnier, the same record for most people in a chain submission hold in general?
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BaronVanAwesome posted:I watched a video review of WCW Spring Stampede 1999 this week, and laughed at the 3-person sleeper hold chain on Hogan/DDP/Sting. There have been several instances of chain submissions where everyone gets the next dude in a head scissors and then they roll it over and reverse the polarity but the best chain of people spot in history is this one https://youtu.be/ZO71rAquWIM
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May 6, 2022 23:01
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Not enough people know how great Jushin Liger is
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History Comes Inside! posted:There have been several instances of chain submissions where everyone gets the next dude in a head scissors and then they roll it over and reverse the polarity but the best chain of people spot in history is this one Wow yes there was no exaggeration, this makes my day
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May 7, 2022 02:27
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That was amazing and my life is now better for having seen that.
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May 7, 2022 04:12
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Go look at how many of those dudes are now in WWE or AEW too. Insane amount of talent. Supposedly Liger called/came up with the spot too. Dude is a legend.
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May 7, 2022 05:00
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Silly Burrito posted:That was amazing and my life is now better for having seen that. I have tears in my eyes. Truly professional wrestling for all its bad parts can certainly be a force for good in the world.
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May 7, 2022 06:05
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harperdc posted:Go look at how many of those dudes are now in WWE or AEW too. Insane amount of talent. I'm pretty sure not a single person in that match isn't currently signed or hasn't been signed to either WWE, AEW, or NJPW. WWE - Alexander, Black, Callahan, Ciampa, Dunne, Kendrick, and Riddle AEW - Black, Taylor NJPW - Liger and Cobb I'm also pretty sure that the only two people not currently signed to any of those companies are Callahan and Kendrick. Pretty impressive really.
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May 7, 2022 11:19
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Hoss Corncave posted:I'm pretty sure not a single person in that match isn't currently signed or hasn't been signed to either WWE, AEW, or NJPW. Callahan's in Impact, I think. And Kendrick would've been All Elite if he wasn't an anti-Semitic conspiracy nutjob
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May 7, 2022 13:31
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Gaz-L posted:Callahan's in Impact, I think. And Kendrick would've been All Elite if he wasn't an anti-Semitic conspiracy nutjob But they were both in WWE between that spot and now, though. At least, if I have my times straight.
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May 7, 2022 16:12
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Lurks With Wolves posted:But they were both in WWE between that spot and now, though. At least, if I have my times straight. I think that match was 2016 (I had reason to reference it a while back) but either way, Callahan and Kendrick are big enough names. All for that spot. Love it 
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May 7, 2022 16:33
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that was a pretty funny spot where they shoved their fingers up everyones rear end Hole.
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May 7, 2022 16:36
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Was tonight's Dark taped in like March? Cap'n Dean came out to what I think is his Black History Month album theme and not the Guile-inspired theme.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Was tonight's Dark taped in like March? Cap'n Dean came out to what I think is his Black History Month album theme and not the Guile-inspired theme. nope, from the most recent taping
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May 11, 2022 03:21
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I was wondering similar, as Jora Johl apparently just noticed Matt Hardy leaving his faction
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May 11, 2022 04:53
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Are the joshis that AEW bring/Brought over regularly top tier talents in japan? [Riho/Emi/Yuka,etc] versus their american roster counter parts they seem a lot smoother in moving around the ring and laying in strikes that is kinda rare that only the bigger athletic women seem to be able to accomplish like Nyla, Kris stat, and even though shes not as smooth yet you can kind of see it in jade. Not a knock against Thunder, Britt,etc,etc,etc. Theyre fun to watch, but the way they wrestle it seems the ring is like a foot and a half too large for them to move around in if that makes sense?
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May 11, 2022 14:04
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Defenestrategy posted:Are the joshis that AEW bring/Brought over regularly top tier talents in japan? [Riho/Emi/Yuka,etc] versus their american roster counter parts they seem a lot smoother in moving around the ring and laying in strikes that is kinda rare that only the bigger athletic women seem to be able to accomplish like Nyla, Kris stat, and even though shes not as smooth yet you can kind of see it in jade. Not a knock against Thunder, Britt,etc,etc,etc. Theyre fun to watch, but the way they wrestle it seems the ring is like a foot and a half too large for them to move around in if that makes sense? I’ve asked the same question before and the answer I got was that it boils down to women’s wrestling in Japan being just as “legit” as men’s wrestling, so they’ve always been properly trained and expected to be as competent as a guy in the same place on the card. In contrast women’s wrestling in the US/Western world was treated as a sideshow for a long time instead so there was less focus/interest in creating great wrestlers because that wasn’t the point, and the current generation are still overcoming all the obstacles that perception put in the way.
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May 11, 2022 14:26
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Defenestrategy posted:Are the joshis that AEW bring/Brought over regularly top tier talents in japan? [Riho/Emi/Yuka,etc] versus their american roster counter parts they seem a lot smoother in moving around the ring and laying in strikes that is kinda rare that only the bigger athletic women seem to be able to accomplish like Nyla, Kris stat, and even though shes not as smooth yet you can kind of see it in jade. Not a knock against Thunder, Britt,etc,etc,etc. Theyre fun to watch, but the way they wrestle it seems the ring is like a foot and a half too large for them to move around in if that makes sense? I'd say Shida & Sakazaki are probably in or near the top tier but with the caveat that honestly neither would be in my top 10 of active women's wrestlers. Joshi traditionally has been a much snugger style than you associate with American women's wrestling, but everything else I think can just be attributed to the simple fact that women's wrestlers in Japan get to work A LOT more, and that's how you get better. Britt Baker's busiest year going by Cagematch was 2018 with 46 dates. Compare that to one of my current faves Arisa Nakajima, when she started she would do 60-90 shows a year. It's only 10 years into her career that she dialled back to 2 shows a month sort of level. Working regularly just seems like the best way to get good. And in Japan there a lot more mid-week bookings you can pick up, especially if you're based in the Tokyo area, Ice Ribbon are routinely doing Dojo shows 2 or 3 times a week in Saitama Prefecture, and there's a myriad of assorted groups who may only run once a month but it adds up to a lot more opportunities. Even in a company like TJPW which is more known as an idol promotion than a traditional group like Sendai Girls, the level of rookies like Arai, & the bird girl whose name I forget is on a level or even higher than American women who debuted years ago. Sure, some of that can go down to the training but TJPW are running regularly in shows where every women gets on the card if they are healthy & available forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 14:44 on May 11, 2022 |
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forkboy84 posted:Working regularly just seems like the best way to get good. Good advice for anything really. How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
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Hard Work! I wonder if the other AEW women have taken indie bookings while employed by AEW, just to get some reps in.
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I didnt realize the amount of matches for womens wrestling was that dire. I just assumed it was a quirk of having to work a giant ring when youre like five foot something, because there are women in my gym who roll smoother with each other in a shoot than what it looks like in a womens pro wrestling match on AEW sometimes.
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Defenestrategy posted:Are the joshis that AEW bring/Brought over regularly top tier talents in japan? [Riho/Emi/Yuka,etc] versus their american roster counter parts they seem a lot smoother in moving around the ring and laying in strikes that is kinda rare that only the bigger athletic women seem to be able to accomplish like Nyla, Kris stat, and even though shes not as smooth yet you can kind of see it in jade. Not a knock against Thunder, Britt,etc,etc,etc. Theyre fun to watch, but the way they wrestle it seems the ring is like a foot and a half too large for them to move around in if that makes sense? Yuka is in that category where she's a pretty big star for her company and Riho is pretty notable but I wouldn't say they've poached any of the super elite stars or in ring talents. Everyone they've gotten is really good, but especially for Riho when I see her in AEW it feels like she's working a level above what she was doing in Japan during the last few years. I think she just works better against larger wrestlers for the most part. You stick her in there with a Nyla Rose and even when Nyla was really rough around the edges it created compelling matches that are hard to duplicate.
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forkboy84 posted:Britt Baker's busiest year going by Cagematch was 2018 with 46 dates. That's nuts when ASUKA has done more than that every single year she's been active (at least doubling it 3 years) with the exception of her debut year because she started in August and was also only 17. Hell, she's already had 30 matches this year and we're not even halfway through yet
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TV Zombie posted:I wonder if the other AEW women have taken indie bookings while employed by AEW, just to get some reps in. I'm pretty sure Rosa does, at the very least. And man it's been a joy to watch her progress over the years.
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May 11, 2022 16:16
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rosa literally runs an indie promotion where a bunch of aew women also work
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this is why "years in the business" is often a pretty pointless metric, imho
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I wouldn't solely go by matches for AEW wrestlers in terms of how many practice reps they're getting In, since they both have offscreen training and they don't work house shows in an effort to not overwork people
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AEW women appear regularly enough on GCW. I've seen Rosa and Ruby there, that i can remember offhand.
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CommonShore posted:AEW women appear regularly enough on GCW. I've seen Rosa and Ruby there, that i can remember offhand. Ruby did one match and Rosa wrapped up in GCW. Ruby has done a few indie matches since signing, Rosa was doing a few per month but said she's going to cut back now that she's champion. Nyla has done a few this year, Serena does a handful of outside dates, etc. I think the most active woman on the indies who is under contract is Skye Blue.
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Procrastinator posted:this is why "years in the business" is often a pretty pointless metric, imho Unless you're Ivelisse where it's apparently the most important thing along with mandatory respect to the veterans.
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Alaois posted:rosa literally runs an indie promotion where a bunch of aew women also work Finance Mission Pro and air it weekly, Coward Tony
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Hoss Corncave posted:Unless you're Ivelisse where it's apparently the most important thing along with mandatory respect to the veterans. Except that she doesn't have to respect people who have been in the business longer because
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Here's a quick list of women's non-AEW/ROH matches this year (it's possible that some indie feds don't get their matches updated to cagematch) 11 Thunder Rosa (NEW, MPW, WW, GCW, LAWE, ZDOP) 9 Skye Blue (WW, AAW, F1RST, FU, BLP, FCW) 7 Emi Sakura (Gatoh Move, EVE) 6 Hikaru Shida (Ice Ribbon, TJPW, OZ, WAVE) 4 AQA (VIP, ROW, NTPWC, VWR) 3 Marina Shafir (GCW, BCW, WOW) 3 Nyla Rose (DD, BDD, WOW 2 Abadon (LLL, RWA) 2 Kiera Hogan (RCW, Terminus) 2 Tay Conti (AAA) 1 Ruby Soho (GCW) 1 Leyla Hirsh (BLP) 1 Diamante (Terminus) 1 Serena Deeb (Terminus) 0 Anna Jay 0 Red Velvet 0 Bunny 0 Kris Statlander 0 Britt Baker 0 Jade Cargill 0 Julia Hart 0 Jamie Hayter 0 Toni Storm 0 Riho
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I've tried to Google this a million different ways. Is there a name for when someone is folded over the top rope and then gets a leg dropped on their head? I know it's a leg drop or even a guillotine but I dunno if your opponent laying over the top rope changes the name.
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Eat The Rich posted:I've tried to Google this a million different ways. It's a guillotine legdrop. Other kinds of legdrop are also a guillotine legdrop. The world is not a right place
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flatluigi posted:I wouldn't solely go by matches for AEW wrestlers in terms of how many practice reps they're getting In, since they both have offscreen training and they don't work house shows in an effort to not overwork people Pracitce reps/sparring just doesn't work like wrestling a competitive match live in front of an audience either streamed or in person for reps. I can't think of a single example of a wrestler who improved dramatically solely though private training. fez_machine fucked around with this message at 10:38 on May 12, 2022 |
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fez_machine posted:Pracitce reps/sparring just doesn't work like wrestling a competitive match live in front of an audience either streamed or in person for reps. 'solely' means they didn't do any matches that you could watch and as such you can't actually watch them improve, lol I think Jade is a pretty clear candidate for it, especially since you can pinpoint exactly when she started working with Bryan
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fez_machine posted:Pracitce reps/sparring just doesn't work like wrestling a competitive match live in front of an audience either streamed or in person for reps. But they aren't doing solely private training they are working matches and doing training sessions. This was very effective in helping Tay Conti improve in 2020.
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Obviously "annnnnnd NEWWWWW!" is always a lovely moment, but every time I hear it I keep thinking there is some famous "annnnnd STIIIIIIILL!!!" moment that got a huge pop, which suggests to me it was in a match with some sort of wonky uncertain finish, or else the audience would have already hit the big pop from the face champion winning the match. Is there a specific match I am thinking of? What do you mean you do not know my brain!? It is also certainly possible that has happened a dozen times and I am having a hard time remembering what match it was precisely because I am just merging a bunch of different moments together
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Dr. Quarex posted:Obviously "annnnnnd NEWWWWW!" is always a lovely moment, but every time I hear it I keep thinking there is some famous "annnnnd STIIIIIIILL!!!" moment that got a huge pop, which suggests to me it was in a match with some sort of wonky uncertain finish, or else the audience would have already hit the big pop from the face champion winning the match. ufc when they announce a judges decision
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