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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



My exact face when I saw him wander into frame

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Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

nine-gear crow posted:

I've decided that whole thing of Soong trying to run Picard down with his Tesla was just him going off script and Q was like "OH poo poo!" when he found out about it. That's the great part about having a script so full of holes as Picard Season 2's is--you can just make loving anything up and it's as good as canon! :buddy:

And apparently the top end super security for the event was only for people inside the building. An attempted murder involving your star astronaut 5 feet outside the building? Eh, it was probably nothing. Just scrape the old guy off the driveway and carry on.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Does q know the car won’t kill him

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


They should just take the behind the scenes show they have Wheaton do and make it the exact same but instead of hosting it as Wil Wheaton he hosts it in character as the traveler Wesley Crusher, and have all the interview segments in character with him saying "I'm sorry but to protect the timeline I have to return you with no memory of this"

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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That DICK! posted:

Does q know the car won’t kill him

Picard starts yelling at Q about how lovely his plan was and Q is like "that all happened? Wow, not my intent at all"

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

FlamingLiberal posted:

My exact face when I saw him wander into frame

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I’m sorry Jean Luc. They never taught how dangerous Teslas actually were at Elon Musk High School.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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"Okay, you're probably wondering what I'm doing here..."

"I'm definitely wondering, Wil. We have a legal agreement."

"And normally, I'd abide by that..."

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

I think this is kind of what they were doing but I wish they leaned into the q loss of power thing and emphasized he was only like 1 commercial break into his typical TNG bullshit by the time they broke and his poo poo is just completely derailed. He was gonna take them back to feudal Japan or some poo poo but instead he’s stuck in boring modern la paying hobos to take swings at picard ancestors. By the end he just lets them think “oh uh. Yeah it was the mom thing” and he realizes he actually doesn’t like Picard all that much

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Honestly, all this sort of stuff tracks with me as the kind of demonstration of “love” I would expect an incomprehensibly godlike being to have for a human. Hell, it tracks with God in the Bible.

Would of been better if Q had had Picard eaten by a whale.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Brawnfire posted:

Picard starts yelling at Q about how lovely his plan was and Q is like "that all happened? Wow, not my intent at all"

If Season 2 took a last second swerve into being an Always Sunny episode, it would have redeemed the whole thing.

Q spun the roulette wheel and realized all too late that he'd accidentally bet everything on 00.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007


edit: what time zone do they use to count it as thursday?

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 06:26 on May 12, 2022

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Khanstant posted:



edit: what time zone do they use to count it as thursday?

Pacific, the worst timezone. New episodes don’t drop until 2am Central or 3am Eastern.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Pacific is the best episode because Star Trek Picard Season Two took place in it. Except for the parts in France. And space. And Picard's robot brain.

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009


he looks like he wants me to join his polycule

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Picard never even got the chance to tell him to shut up again.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

The costume department did Will no favours at all either.

Maybe they were pissed about their office being used as a set.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Tiberius Christ posted:

he looks like he wants me to join his polycule

I mean he basically just recruited Koré into Time Scientology, so you're not that far off...

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

BiggestBatman posted:

Synths are outlawed everywhere, thanks to intergalactic treaty

I mean, this line tells you everything you need to know about how much thought they put into that...

Intergalactic treaty. Intergalactic. And its enforceable too apparently! (or else Riker and Troi are just big dummies)

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



SNW episode 2 managed a pretty good spin on a classic Trek deadline to doom story. Two episodes in a row where Pike finds peaceful solutions to avoid anyone getting murdered

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I liked the premiere more, but this was still a really solid episode.

- Peaceful solution!
- Phaser BEAMS!
- Some great simple TOS-esque set design in the “egg” cave, even if the boundaries of their Volume wall were apparent in a few shots.
- It’s crazy how excited I am just to see multiple scenes of people conversing and hanging out during downtime without crazy camera moves or the fate of the galaxy at stake.
- Indigenous alien makeup looked real good.
- CG view screen alien looked decent.
- Ortegas seems fun.
- I’m digging the gruff Aenar dude and flirty sarcastic Chapel.
- It was already apparent in Disco S2, but Peck is so good as Spock thus far.


The show looks really cinematic and polished right now too.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
I liked SNW 102 a lot. A very TOSey story. People will be a little whiny about the Pike's fate thread running through at the end but meh, its barely any screen time

Also that dinner party was a real nice sweet spot between the stuffy classical music recitals of TNG and the Fugees house party of Disco

I also enjoyed how in the space battle the Enterprise wasn't zipping around. It acted like a body with mass, which is how it should handle

Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 12, 2022

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

Lower Decks is alright but still a bit too cute with the references as of season 2.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Gonz posted:

Picard never even got the chance to tell him to shut up again.

The worst part of telling people to "skip series 1" is they never get the wesley hate, because it's series 1 where he's really bad

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Literally the only negative things I could say are:
U'hura coming in with another dark origin story. Glad it was short and have no idea if that's always been her backstory, though. Forgivable if it's always been that way.
Pike side-whispering "I love this job" specifically so they could get it in for trailers and commercials around Discovery to bring those dumb fans in.
The only thing I can currently see ruining this season is if they try to track down this comet's origin. Hopefully it's dropped right here and not explored further. Lots of old Trek just left things a mystery forever at the end of episodes, only a handful to be returned to because of interesting plot writing ideas. I hope we can get back to that with SNW.

Very much ignorable and, like the first episode, only taking up 1% of the watch time.

Everything else? :discourse:

Specifically?

I had to pause the show laughing because of Pike's "Ahahahaaa dress uniform, huh?" was the best delivery of any line in all of NuTrek holy loving balls Anson Mount is the Trek captain we've needed for decades.
Ortegas is basically the hotshot pilot from The Orville, Malloy, and it's perfect. I love her. Can't wait to see the episode focusing on her. Between her lovely grins and Chapel's lovely grins, it's nice to see characters with confidence in NuTrek without being center-of-attention Mary Sues. Also, tasteful mid-drift as a call-back to the TOS days but not being outright sexist? :swoon:
CG alien on the viewscreen was so incredibly TOS/TNG era that I ached in glee. On top of that, he was actually well spoken, powerful, and saw reason but was also a faith zealot? Can't get much better in terms of rock-and-hard-place negotiation drama.
La'an just constantly side-eyeing U'hura and not having it break down into a lovely inter-personal drama and requirement for a cruddy discussion while time is of the essence? Yes, please. Loving that Drummer-lite attitude.
Song as a communication medium seems like it's been done before but the fact I can't remember from where means I'm perfectly fine with it being a solution for this episode. Kinda wish there was a 1-sentence explanation behind how she figured out what to sing to bring the shields down but it is otherwise a good plot.
There's this one scene where the Enterprise is flying and the music isn't stupidly orchestral to the point of annoyance and is, in fact, a very ambient piece making the flight through space near the comet feel calming in a way. It was beautiful. Whoever's doing musical direction in this show has already outperformed the rest of NuTrek, in spite of the show's theme song being too derivative. Good for them.


That's 2 good episodes down. If we can get 3 more, I'm declaring SNW not only best NuTrek, but actually good television as well. Fingers crossed.

Taear posted:

The worst part of telling people to "skip series 1" is they never get the wesley hate, because it's series 1 where he's really bad
After rewatching the series, I refuse to tell people to skip anything. There's a lot of good stuff in season 1 and you should watch the bad stuff to know your roots and see how far the show was able to come. It makes the better parts of TNG that much better. (This opinion brought to you by Bias(tm).)

DaveKap fucked around with this message at 09:33 on May 12, 2022

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

The ideal watch order of TNG is "on shuffle"

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

DaveKap posted:

After rewatching the series, I refuse to tell people to skip anything. There's a lot of good stuff in season 1 and you should watch the bad stuff to know your roots and see how far the show was able to come. It makes the better parts of TNG that much better. (This opinion brought to you by Bias(tm).)

I think getting my girlfriend to sit through the absolutely dire series 1 really turned her off the show. There is something to be said about getting the person hooked first.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Taear posted:

I think getting my girlfriend to sit through the absolutely dire series 1 really turned her off the show. There is something to be said about getting the person hooked first.
My girlfriend refuses to skip episodes for any show ever, so when I tried to get her into TNG, the same exact thing happened. She couldn't continue so I understand but TBH this doesn't change what I think about showing people TNG. Show a few good episodes first, sure, but still go back and watch the bad stuff.

boo boo bear
Oct 1, 2009

I'm COMPLETELY OBSESSED with SEXY EGGS
#1 knows how to coordinate a look, gotta love a fashion forward first officer.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


https://twitter.com/Yoshibug/status/1524664203402899456?t=U3gjOCbpoIeOqpABTP5bBw&s=19

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Streaming services need to have a random button. Unless you're 80 years old and watched TNG when it first premiered, the true TNG experience is catching a random rerun on UPN or some other channel and figuring the characters out as you watch more.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Detective No. 27 posted:

Streaming services need to have a random button. Unless you're 80 years old and watched TNG when it first premiered, the true TNG experience is catching a random rerun on UPN or some other channel and figuring the characters out as you watch more.
They'll get around to that about the same time they add the "rewind 5 seconds, enable subtitles for the 5 seconds, then disable subtitles" function.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Trying posted:

The ideal watch order of TNG is "on shuffle"

:hai:

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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DaveKap posted:

They'll get around to that about the same time they add the "rewind 5 seconds, enable subtitles for the 5 seconds, then disable subtitles" function.

*presses "character name and brief bio" button so many times it wears out*

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

DaveKap posted:


Specifically?

I had to pause the show laughing because of Pike's "Ahahahaaa dress uniform, huh?" was the best delivery of any line in all of NuTrek holy loving balls Anson Mount is the Trek captain we've needed for decades.
Ortegas is basically the hotshot pilot from The Orville, Malloy, and it's perfect. I love her. Can't wait to see the episode focusing on her. Between her lovely grins and Chapel's lovely grins, it's nice to see characters with confidence in NuTrek without being center-of-attention Mary Sues. Also, tasteful mid-drift as a call-back to the TOS days but not being outright sexist? :swoon:
CG alien on the viewscreen was so incredibly TOS/TNG era that I ached in glee. On top of that, he was actually well spoken, powerful, and saw reason but was also a faith zealot? Can't get much better in terms of rock-and-hard-place negotiation drama.
La'an just constantly side-eyeing U'hura and not having it break down into a lovely inter-personal drama and requirement for a cruddy discussion while time is of the essence? Yes, please. Loving that Drummer-lite attitude.
Song as a communication medium seems like it's been done before but the fact I can't remember from where means I'm perfectly fine with it being a solution for this episode. Kinda wish there was a 1-sentence explanation behind how she figured out what to sing to bring the shields down but it is otherwise a good plot.
There's this one scene where the Enterprise is flying and the music isn't stupidly orchestral to the point of annoyance and is, in fact, a very ambient piece making the flight through space near the comet feel calming in a way. It was beautiful. Whoever's doing musical direction in this show has already outperformed the rest of NuTrek, in spite of the show's theme song being too derivative. Good for them.


The characters in Disco felt like a bunch of irreverent teenagers, but the dinner party did a pretty good job of threading the needle between "star trek is about high competent professionals" and "friendly goofing off". I really like it.

I'm already putting SNW above 90% of Voyager eps, but regardless of quality, SNW is at least aiming to be "proper" Trek. And holy poo poo have I been hankering for that.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Can't believe Wesley Crusher grew up to be Charlie Kelly.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

Can't believe Wesley Crusher grew up to be Charlie Kelly.

If only they had cast Charlie for the role :(

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Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
Another thing I liked, and someone touched on it last week too, is that Pike knows he works with the best and he trusts them. Ortegas needs to evade a lot of photon torpedos and debris to get Enterprise in position for their complicated plan, and Pike gives her a quick pep talks and shows no hint of skepticism she can do it.

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