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Peanut President posted:french people are thin because they get all their calories from alcohol By that logic there'd be nobody overweight in the UK and Ireland
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weight is mostly about how many calories you eat. whether that weight is muscle or fat depends on your activity levels and exercise. of course larger muscle mass burns more calories passively and the act of exercising burns calories but it takes quite a bit of exercise to burn off a typical meal. Much easier to balance the equation by eating less if the goal is to lose weight. Not all calories are equal, brown rice has more calories but digests more slowly which also has an impact. The easiest calories to cut are carbs, starting with simple carbs i.e. sugars, because the body only uses them as energy. You are made out of protein and fat so you should eat those, especially healthy oils like olive, sunflower and fish oils. Also alcohol is good to avoid. There's no real tricks to it.
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May 12, 2022 19:47
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the only successful weight loss treatments medicine knows about are endocrine in nature. bariatric surgery and glp1 agonists, also ampetamines but lol
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May 12, 2022 19:50
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Antonymous posted:weight is mostly about how many calories you eat. My friend that is a gross oversimplification and also advice about individual habits isn't really useful when it comes to a population level epidemic
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May 12, 2022 19:51
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Shame Boy posted:By that logic there'd be nobody overweight in the UK and Ireland hmm good point, maybe beer is just worse for you than wine
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May 12, 2022 19:53
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Antonymous posted:weight is mostly about how many calories you eat. yeah like said above that's really oversimplifying there are overfeeding studies where people gain weight by eating a ton of calories, but at some point they simply stop
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May 12, 2022 19:58
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perhaps capitalism can solve a sedentary lifestyle, idk
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May 12, 2022 19:59
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the hunter gatherer tribes that have been studied, where in some cases their lifestyle is quite sedentary and they eat sugars for a huge percentage of their diet (like some of the groups in the south pacific) is pretty interesting. they are all slim as gently caress, everyone's BMI is like 22 or less. I think the theory is living on an island, in isolation from others and civilization, means basically no exposure to pollutants and toxins.
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May 12, 2022 20:01
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I think maybe shipping, packaging, cooking, and serving all of our food and drink in petroleum and having guts, brains, and blood full of the same might have something to do with the state of things But who knows maybe the entire population of major countries completely changing their physical composition in half a century after a 200,000 year stasis might just be about not eating enough brown rice or not being able to count calories like our ancestors used to
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May 12, 2022 20:06
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actionjackson posted:the hunter gatherer tribes that have been studied, where in some cases their lifestyle is quite sedentary and they eat sugars for a huge percentage of their diet (like some of the groups in the south pacific) is pretty interesting. they are all slim as gently caress, everyone's BMI is like 22 or less. I think the theory is living on an island, in isolation from others and civilization, means basically no exposure to pollutants and toxins. i'm curious what is considered sedentary for a hunter-gatherer vs an american who only walks 20 ft to their car/couch twice a day
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May 12, 2022 20:11
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Manager Hoyden posted:I think maybe shipping, packaging, cooking, and serving all of our food and drink in petroleum and having guts, brains, and blood full of the same might have something to do with the state of things yeah I mean a lot of the pollutants and toxins are certainly much more recent, as a result of industrial capitalism and I think HFCS first showed up in the late 1970s
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May 12, 2022 20:12
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:i'm curious what is considered sedentary for a hunter-gatherer vs an american who only walks 20 ft to their car/couch twice a day well part 4 of this shows some examples. https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/07/07/a-chemical-hunger-part-i-mysteries/ the one about the Kitava has a good picture and a link to a research article
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May 12, 2022 20:16
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the only successful weight loss treatments medicine knows about are endocrine in nature. bariatric surgery and glp1 agonists, also ampetamines but lol amphetamines own
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May 12, 2022 20:23
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they own too much, unfortunately
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May 12, 2022 20:25
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It's time to bring back mother's little helpers
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May 12, 2022 20:28
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I should be allowed to have cocaine
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May 12, 2022 20:33
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Manager Hoyden posted:I think maybe shipping, packaging, cooking, and serving all of our food and drink in petroleum and having guts, brains, and blood full of the same might have something to do with the state of things so many things have changed in the last 100 years that our lives are incomparable to any previous time in human history
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May 12, 2022 20:34
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Danaru posted:I should be allowed to have cocaine Who can say they live among the free when their cries for premium schneef go unanswered
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May 12, 2022 20:36
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Danaru posted:I should be allowed to have cocaine
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May 12, 2022 21:33
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Danaru posted:I should be allowed to have cocaine Same god damnit 
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Antonymous posted:my understanding is that sucrose, cane sugar, is 50% glucose 50% fructose. nope nevermind, you're right been too long since i've watched the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM stringless has issued a correction as of 21:51 on May 12, 2022 |
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May 12, 2022 21:47
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PokeJoe posted:amphetamines own Danaru posted:I should be allowed to have cocaine Apparently before coke hit the scene americans were consuming staggering volumes of amphetamines. It really is amazing we didn't nuke the world into a smoldering cinder in the throes of amphetamine psychosis
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May 12, 2022 21:48
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coke? buddy we got meth now
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May 12, 2022 22:15
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capitalism made me fat simply because exxxon needed to put the 4 liters of coke i drink a day in a fossil fuel bottle, not in a drinking horn like my ancestors
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May 12, 2022 22:17
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It's factually true if you chug mead from an aurochs horn instead of becoming an obese moron you'll be inspired to write sagas like a poet and also get ripped
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May 12, 2022 22:23
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explain rennaisance festivals then
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May 12, 2022 22:24
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Dungeon Ecology posted:explain rennaisance festivals then counterfeit horns
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May 12, 2022 22:26
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actionjackson posted:well part 4 of this shows some examples. Look at this dude. This dude is hot as hell and the article says that's the norm among the islanders? 
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May 12, 2022 22:27
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his pecs look like a bodybuilder's and those triceps and traps look photoshopped
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May 12, 2022 22:28
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Shear Modulus posted:Look at this dude. This dude is hot as hell and the article says that's the norm among the islanders? Guy must be religious about using his standing desk going to the gym five days a week and putting all his macros in myfitnesspal (not to mention all the brown rice and beans he must be eating)
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May 12, 2022 22:29
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Norton posted:so many things have changed in the last 100 years that our lives are incomparable to any previous time in human history Flush-able toilets alone are a luxury every empire before 1900 would've gone to war and annihilated entire nation states for.
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The guy who spent a lot of time among the Hadza wrote a book about metabolism, which y'all might find interesting: Herman Pontzer: Burn (it has a dumb marketing subtitle and I refuse to copy - Burn is a perfectly good title) https://www.science.org/content/article/scientist-busts-myths-about-how-humans-burn-calories-and-why quote:By borrowing a method developed by physiologists studying obesity, Pontzer and colleagues systematically measure the total energy used per day by animals and people in various walks of life. The answers coming from their data are often surprising: Exercise doesn’t help you burn more energy on average; active hunter-gatherers in Africa don’t expend more energy daily than sedentary office workers in Illinois; pregnant women don’t burn more calories per day than other adults, after adjusting for body mass. It's pretty dang interesting. Most of our ideas about how energy expenditure actually works are kind of bad, it turns out.
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May 12, 2022 22:39
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pentyne posted:Flush-able toilets alone are a luxury every empire before 1900 would've gone to war and annihilated entire nation states for. not the English, Elizabeth I had one in 1596
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May 12, 2022 22:41
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the only successful weight loss treatments medicine knows about are endocrine in nature. bariatric surgery and glp1 agonists, also ampetamines but lol ECA stacks work, and aren't technically amphetamines, just a precursor.
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May 12, 2022 22:46
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still endocrine unless sympathetic hormones stopped bein hormones somehow
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May 12, 2022 22:48
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pentyne posted:Flush-able toilets alone are a luxury every empire before 1900 would've gone to war and annihilated entire nation states for. e:f, flushed
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May 12, 2022 23:41
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Maybe people are gaining weight because our society has been converted into a dopamine desert and our culture is built around the idea that you need to white knuckle the deeply unnatural and miserable conditions in which you live.
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May 12, 2022 23:53
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Like idk it's not really that surprising that people who hang out and connect with their community all day aren't gaining a ton of weight regardless of the food and exercise situation. They probably have a really high rate of ADHD too because most nomadic & hunter/gatherer cultures do. But despite being dopamine junkies at a higher rate than "civilized society" they don't need to eat to feel things because nobody is chaining them to a desk and telling them their ability to remain productive is the most important fact about them.
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May 12, 2022 23:56
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no, the island of nauru has a coherent and stable community and their average bmi is getting into the high 30s
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bob dobbs is dead posted:no, the island of nauru has a coherent and stable community and their average bmi is getting into the high 30s Nauru is an abandoned phosphate mine duct taped to an abandoned prison.
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