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So BZ is on sale, but I'm getting mixed messages from the thread and, of course, Steam reviews are either "it's god-tier" or "they ruined SN". I guess my question is, if BZ existed in a vacuum, would you enjoy it? Or do you just tolerate it because it's as close to more SN as we're getting?
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May 12, 2022 22:19
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It's more Subnautica. It's got some very pretty areas and spooky enemies and it's fun to explore. The story is bad, the environments tend more towards cave diving like the back half of original SN than the open ocean wtf is that above me feeling of the original. The above ground portions are mostly a mistake (the iceberg section is good.) I'm glad I played it, I'll probably never play it again and just play the original if I've got a hankering to get eaten underwater.
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May 12, 2022 22:33
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Oldstench posted:So BZ is on sale, but I'm getting mixed messages from the thread and, of course, Steam reviews are either "it's god-tier" or "they ruined SN". I guess my question is, if BZ existed in a vacuum, would you enjoy it? Or do you just tolerate it because it's as close to more SN as we're getting? It's not really as good as SN in a lot of ways but it's still good and fairly peerless
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May 12, 2022 22:37
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Same. It was more Subnautica, more condensed environments, and it didn't have the same magic but it was still fun. Cyclops was better than the sea truck tho.
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May 12, 2022 22:38
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I really enjoyed the seatruck in BZ which doesn’t seem like a popular opinion but there ya go
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May 12, 2022 22:39
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Oldstench posted:Or do you just tolerate it because it's as close to more SN as we're getting? https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649 (i'm starting at this job next week)
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May 12, 2022 23:08
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Congrats!
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May 12, 2022 23:22
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Oldstench posted:So BZ is on sale, but I'm getting mixed messages from the thread and, of course, Steam reviews are either "it's god-tier" or "they ruined SN". I guess my question is, if BZ existed in a vacuum, would you enjoy it? Or do you just tolerate it because it's as close to more SN as we're getting? If you like Silent Protagonist stories with non-telegraphed breadcrumbs for figuring out where to go, what to do, etc, then BZ is NOT that. If you like the idea of Navi or some other sassy omniscient sidekick holding your hand and letting you know that "You should check out the Alien Base 200m below." *after 1 minute of not checking out the alien base* "By the way I just heard about the Alien Base 200m below your current position you should check it out!" Then BZ will fit that need well.
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May 12, 2022 23:22
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General Battuta posted:https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649 Holy poo poo! Congrats!! ate poo poo on live tv posted:If you like Silent Protagonist stories with non-telegraphed breadcrumbs for figuring out where to go, what to do, etc, then BZ is NOT that. It's not nearly this bad; you're told where to go but I don't recall being reminded over and over again. It was either literally once and I forgot it, or it actually doesn't happen. I love the biomes in BZ, as well as the upgraded mechanics, like pinning recipes and a few of the new items. I vastly prefer the music of the first game though the BZ soundtrack is also good. I say get it, because it's the closest game you'll find that's like Subnautica, understandably. Also, completely separately, but thanks to the discussion of No Man's Sky like a month ago, I bought it and holy poo poo it's my new favourite game. I know what it is and what it's not and it's doing everything I want. Love it. Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 23:29 on May 12, 2022 |
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May 12, 2022 23:24
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General Battuta posted:https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649 This rules.
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May 12, 2022 23:25
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Remember your pact with this thread. The game is to be a Maurgerite Reaper Leviathan murder simulator!
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May 12, 2022 23:41
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General Battuta posted:https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649 h e l l y e a h
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May 12, 2022 23:49
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I would (and this means nothing for whatever they're making, I haven't even been onboarded, for all I know it's just a krill customization simulator) ideally like more non-inevitably-lethal interactions with predators. Teach them you're not worth the trouble, get an uneasy truce going, keep a wary eye on them in case it's been lean feeding lately. Learn the seasonal rhythms, when they get territorial, when they're bulking up for the cold season. That seems a lot more interesting than murdering all apex predators. You can roleplay the tragic grizzly bear guy maybe, get too comfy, think you've tamed the power of aquanature. Fool!!
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May 12, 2022 23:58
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Would you like some more peepers milord reaper
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May 13, 2022 00:46
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General Battuta posted:I would (and this means nothing for whatever they're making, I haven't even been onboarded, for all I know it's just a krill customization simulator) ideally like more non-inevitably-lethal interactions with predators. Teach them you're not worth the trouble, get an uneasy truce going, keep a wary eye on them in case it's been lean feeding lately. Learn the seasonal rhythms, when they get territorial, when they're bulking up for the cold season. That seems a lot more interesting than murdering all apex predators. Congrats on the job! Can you work it into the narrative that the protagonist has gills or a phobia of dry land? Just make sure we keep Subnautica 3 actually set under the water.
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May 13, 2022 00:47
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General Battuta posted:I would (and this means nothing for whatever they're making, I haven't even been onboarded, for all I know it's just a krill customization simulator) ideally like more non-inevitably-lethal interactions with predators. Teach them you're not worth the trouble, get an uneasy truce going, keep a wary eye on them in case it's been lean feeding lately. Learn the seasonal rhythms, when they get territorial, when they're bulking up for the cold season. That seems a lot more interesting than murdering all apex predators. congratulations on the job just bear in mind that sounds like a lot of work that can be short circuited with avoidance possibly followed by murder
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May 13, 2022 00:50
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Tiny Timbs posted:Would you like some more peepers milord reaper Yeah it’d be cool to feed reapers something to temporary occupy them so you can explore an area. Or maybe a handheld fish that gives off a pheromone that keeps big predators away. As long as you hold the fish you’re safe, but if you need to scan something you’re exposed.
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May 13, 2022 00:53
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Subnautica 3 should be set in the treetops.
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May 13, 2022 00:54
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I mean, natural selection 3 would be a game in the Subnautica universe.
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May 13, 2022 01:16
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General Battuta posted:https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649 Nice!
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May 13, 2022 01:48
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General Battuta posted:I would (and this means nothing for whatever they're making, I haven't even been onboarded, for all I know it's just a krill customization simulator) ideally like more non-inevitably-lethal interactions with predators. Teach them you're not worth the trouble, get an uneasy truce going, keep a wary eye on them in case it's been lean feeding lately. Learn the seasonal rhythms, when they get territorial, when they're bulking up for the cold season. That seems a lot more interesting than murdering all apex predators. It would be very cool if the ecosystem reacted naturally to the player's actions. Harvest too many plant resources in an area? There's not enough food, and the fish population crashes. Without enough fish, the predators don't have enough food, and become more aggressive to the player.
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May 13, 2022 03:43
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General Battuta posted:You can roleplay the tragic grizzly bear guy maybe, get too comfy, think you've tamed the power of aquanature. Fool!! This dude isn't "tragic." He is a loving idiot and the natural consequence of people who project human empathy onto non-human creatures.
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May 13, 2022 03:47
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General Battuta posted:https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649 Thats great. I loved SN and while I dont like BZ as much i've still played both a bunch because I just love the feeling of the game. It really just hits all the right chords for me. But not everyone is the same.
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May 13, 2022 04:17
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I liked Below Zero just as much as the main game
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May 13, 2022 05:29
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:This dude isn't "tragic." He is a loving idiot and the natural consequence of people who project human empathy onto non-human creatures. Yes, I know. That is why I called him a fool.
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May 13, 2022 05:48
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That is fantastic, congratulations. A narrative I'd suggest is "remember what everyone loved about the original game"
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May 13, 2022 05:59
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The sea is called the inner space for a reason and I know General Batuta knows that better than most. It's the fog that is the darkness and the depth that does it in the first one for me. The very thing that triggered the Thallasophobia for all of us is what also got us hooked wasn't it? Lean into the phobia and people will find the adventure. In the dark. In the deep.
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May 13, 2022 06:28
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uPen posted:I mean, natural selection 3 would be a game in the Subnautica universe. Will I be able to befriend a gorge like I did the cuddlefish?
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After your work on Destiny I'm excited to see what you come up with here. The Ariadne arm has plenty of potential!
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May 13, 2022 17:16
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Just don't get fired for being an awful person halfway through the writing cycle
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May 13, 2022 18:41
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General Battuta posted:https://twitter.com/UnknownWorlds/status/1512146852258459649
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May 13, 2022 18:57
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Ok storyline idea elevator pitch: What if you had a planet where it wasn't water but it was desert and there were giant leviathans in the sand? Instead of oxygen you'd have to manage water and you could have a big flying ship that could carry all your stuff, like a cyclops but instead it's like a Carry-all plane. No need to credit me I just do this for the art not the gravitas.
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Omnicarus posted:Ok storyline idea elevator pitch: What if you had a planet where it wasn't water but it was desert and there were giant leviathans in the sand? Instead of oxygen you'd have to manage water and you could have a big flying ship that could carry all your stuff, like a cyclops but instead it's like a Carry-all plane. Watch out, the antigrav hover bike and energy shields are joke items that draw every leviathan on the map to them in a berserk frenzy.
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Omnicarus posted:Ok storyline idea elevator pitch: What if you had a planet where it wasn't water but it was desert and there were giant leviathans in the sand? Instead of oxygen you'd have to manage water and you could have a big flying ship that could carry all your stuff, like a cyclops but instead it's like a Carry-all plane. Do you have any idea how unsexy sand is? It gets everywhere, its horrible! From here on out only lubed ideas from you thank you
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May 13, 2022 19:05
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Could probably work in some highly-adapted natives to interact with also. Maybe they could be a help or a hindrance depending on which story option you take.
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May 13, 2022 19:07
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How about the next game is about being alone surviving in huge, agoraphobic environments interspersed with beautiful safe havens and terrifying behemoths
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May 13, 2022 19:24
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I would buy that game.
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I totally want to do a written LP-through of SN1 where Riley is an elite, special-forces, ex-Frontiersman insurance adjuster dispatched to the weird water planet in the Ariadne Arm to figure out What the gently caress, *Again.*
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May 13, 2022 21:26
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The Cyclops is like, one of the least fun things I have ever experienced in a video game. Doing anything in this thing is a goddamn nightmare. I honestly don't know if I want to finish the game anymore if it involves using this thing.
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veni veni veni posted:The Cyclops is like, one of the least fun things I have ever experienced in a video game. Doing anything in this thing is a goddamn nightmare. I honestly don't know if I want to finish the game anymore if it involves using this thing. You're not really required to use it. Cyclops and prawn suit can both reach the lowest depths of the map and the suit has plenty of mobility once you get a grapple arm. You will eventually need to make a Cyclops though to finish the game specifically because one of the parts for the escape rocket can only be crafted on the in-cyclops module bench.
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