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(Thread IKs: Nenonen)
What should the presidential powers be in 2020?
This poll is closed.
UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! 3 23.08%
Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. 2 15.38%
He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. 2 15.38%
None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! 2 15.38%
Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. 0 0%
None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. 4 30.77%
Total: 13 votes
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Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
knife to meet you
Ruben Stiller on ystäväni

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Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Tuomas Enbuske näyttää Ruben Stillerin faijalta.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Viinat ja naiset piiloon, Boris tulee!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Golden Gate Bride posted:

Ruben Stiller on ystäväni

Ruben Stillerille etsittiin aikoinaan seuraajaa Ylen Pressiklubi-ohjelmaan. Tilalle löydettiin nuori ja pätevä nainen joka oli ajan hermolla ja saisi varsinkin nuoret yleisöt takaisin kanavalle.

Jostain syystä kuitenkin palkkasivat Sanna Ukkolan

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Nenonen posted:

Viinat ja naiset piiloon, Boris tulee!

Jaaha, mentiin sitten antamaan turvatakuut briteille. Toivotaan että Islas Malvinasilla ei tapahdu mitään...

quote:

Vahvistamme, että jos jompikumpi maa joutuu hätätilaan tai hyökkäyksen kohteeksi, Suomi ja Yhdistynyt kuningaskunta auttavat toisiaan eri tavoin kohteeksi joutuneen maan sitä pyytäessä.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
Sama se on kaivaa poteroa Falklandeille kuin Karjalaan

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Darkest Auer posted:

Sama se on kaivaa poteroa Falklandeille kuin Karjalaan

Onko oikeasti?

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
I'm worried, are we supposed to forget the Åland war this easily?

Bonus song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3T8WmibAck

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

It was cauh.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Eating Pulllava in bed.

Wanna try it with metsausage but that's in the kitchen.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

I'm worried, are we supposed to forget the Åland war this easily?

Bonus song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3T8WmibAck

Silloin engelsmannilla oli 300 laivaa, nyt enää 73 plus merijalkaväen ja tukilaivaston alukset. Ei lyödä lyötyä.

Lähinnä huolestuttaa että yrittääkö Boris Johninpoika neuvotella takaisin menettämiään aluksia?

http://yle.fi/uutiset/englannilta_v...teltuja/7894202

Warden
Jan 16, 2020
If I remember things correctly, the Russian invasion force got hosed badly in Åland during the Finnish war by the local militia reinforced by reinforcements from Sweden. Then half a century later when Åland was part Russian empire, it got hosed by the Brits.

Russians and Åland do not seem to mix is what I'm saying.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
https://twitter.com/MaiKivela/status/1524354741844725763

That citizen initiative that legalizes weed which got a lot of supporters got shot down in parliament hard.

Goatson
Oct 21, 2020

The real 12 points was the Thug-Friends we made along the way
Hejtetääs palloa tännekin,

Aside Ano, are there any big names who still openly oppose Nato-membership? Who are these people?

...Paavo?

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Paavo opposes, the last I saw of Erkki T. on A-studio he was very recalcitrant, some V kansanedustajat. Probably some I'm forgetting.

slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

Goatson posted:

Hejtetääs palloa tännekin,

Aside Ano, are there any big names who still openly oppose Nato-membership? Who are these people?

...Paavo?

Dosentti Johan Bäckman

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Vladimir Putin.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

They wanted big names

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Paavo on kyllä blogissaan hulvaton

quote:

Mitä Putin tästä Niinistön tarjoamasta peilistä näkisi?

Hän näkisi, että Venäjä on kohdellut Suomea hyvin niinäkin vuosina, jolloin Suomen poliittinen johto on toiminut vähemmän ystävällisesti sitä kohtaan.

Ukrainaan suuntautuneen Venäjän hyökkäyksen aikanakin Suomen poliittinen ja sotilasjohto ovat korostaneet, ettei Suomea uhkaa mikään.

Putin ei voisi mitenkään ymmärtää väitettä, että Venäjää voitaisiin syyttää Suomen liittymisestä sotilasliitto Natoon.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Rappaport posted:

They wanted big names

No sitten Markus Mustajärvi.

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type

Rappaport posted:

Paavo opposes, the last I saw of Erkki T. on A-studio he was very recalcitrant, some V kansanedustajat. Probably some I'm forgetting.

https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008684257.html

According to this (updated yesterday) Tuomioja is marked as one of the few in SDP that explicitly support joining NATO

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Trogdos! posted:

https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008684257.html

According to this (published yesterday) Tuomioja is marked as one of the few in SDP that explicitly support joining NATO

Deep apologies to Eki, then :(

Tietämättömyys ei ole puolustus, mutta en ole seurannut hänen edesottamuksiaan kovin aktiivisesti

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type

Rappaport posted:

Deep apologies to Eki, then :(

Tietämättömyys ei ole puolustus, mutta en ole seurannut hänen edesottamuksiaan kovin aktiivisesti

Yeah I expected the same from him when I read the article and was surprised that he suddenly is pro-joining :tipshat:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Örkki wrote this opinion in Hesari, I think it's a good read as it sheds some light on coming decisions

https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000008805852.html

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011
Anna Kontula opposes for both good reasons and not so good reasons. Says that we will turn our back on some nations (true) and that is Russia such a threat really (yeah probably is, maybe not in the next few months but...).

Much respect to Kontula but this time I gotta disagree with her.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

SnowblindFatal posted:

Anna Kontula opposes for both good reasons and not so good reasons. Says that we will turn our back on some nations (true)

Nations, plural? Which ones?

Russia of course and... North Korea maybe?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

jaete posted:

Nations, plural? Which ones?

Russia of course and... North Korea maybe?

Luhansk, Donetsk, Transnistria, Etelä-Ossetia ja Abkhazia. Ja kohta Kherson.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Nenonen posted:

Luhansk, Donetsk, Transnistria, Etelä-Ossetia ja Abkhazia. Ja kohta Kherson.

Lappi.

Warden
Jan 16, 2020
Tiedättekö, ennen tätä viimeisintä kriisiä olin melko varma, että Sanna ja demarit ottaa turpaansa ensi kevään eduskuntavaaleissa Kokoomukselta ihan vaan sen takia, että SDP oli vastuussa koronakriisin aikana, mutta jos Marin saa Suomen Natoon, ja Ukrainassa on tilanne edes jollain tavalla päällä ensi vuoden puolella, niin se saattaa pelastaa.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Sinipunahallitus tulossa

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sinipunaiset DEEZ NUTS

George Rouncewell
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.
Lol we will be the next proxy war country

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

George Rouncewell posted:

Lol we will be the next proxy war country

Always have been

(I expect a repetition of Raja-Jooseppi 2015)

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 12, 2022

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

A Russo-Finnish war was self-evident in 2014 when the Big Persu went insane.

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

George Rouncewell posted:

Lol we will be the next proxy war country
Massively less likely if we're in NATO, which is why we're joining NATO.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Elukka posted:

Massively less likely if we're in NATO, which is why we're joining NATO.

onhan se kerta ensimmäinenkin siellä jossain

Jorgos Nuuh
Dec 28, 2004
Pröööööt

Elukka posted:

Massively less likely if we're in NATO, which is why we're joining NATO.

If they come, they come. Same as it always was. As if Nato would really protect us. Yeah, not even after joining. Suomi on se rajamaa...

Sääli että Paavo joutuu elämään tämän kipeän ajan.

Editti oli että we live in interesting times

Jorgos Nuuh fucked around with this message at 00:34 on May 13, 2022

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

jaete posted:

Nations, plural? Which ones?

Russia of course and... North Korea maybe?

China and India could be some. There are dozens of nations worldwide who have not objected to Russia's invasion. We just don't hear much about it because of our western bubble.

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

Jorgos Nuuh posted:

If they come, they come. Same as it always was. As if Nato would really protect us. Yeah, not even after joining. Suomi on se rajamaa...
There's a reason Russia has carefully stepped around NATO countries. Attacking one means you will have Russian troops shooting Americans, Germans, French, etc., and puts you perilously close to nuclear war.

If they let one NATO country go undefended, the whole thing collapses in on itself, along with a big bunch of the US' international influence.

Elukka fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 13, 2022

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Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Paavon vastakkaisuus ei perustu ajatuksiin NATOn vätysmäisyydestä.

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