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Al-Saqr posted:Imagine seeing things like this and not immediately supporting armed struggle against israel and giving the Palestinians every weapon on earth. edit: Headlines are describing it as "a clash" between mourners and police. I hate this. cat botherer fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 13, 2022 |
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Al-Saqr posted:Imagine seeing things like this and not immediately supporting armed struggle against israel and giving the Palestinians every weapon on earth. The us just gave Ukraine billions of dollars in weapons, I'm sure we can find a couple of billiona worth of bombs and stuff to give Hamas
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May 13, 2022 14:35
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They literally will not allow Palestinians the most basic scrap of human dignity even in death.
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May 13, 2022 14:36
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May 13, 2022 14:47
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VitalSigns posted:Mourners wounded amid Palestinian clashes with IDF at funeral I guess they will find some pictures of palestinian teenagers wielding rocks too
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May 13, 2022 15:19
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Would anyone be surprised if they just straight up stole her corpse?
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May 13, 2022 15:21
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Sad lol
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May 13, 2022 15:28
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Failed Imagineer posted:Sad lol Accurate. Then attacked the crowd carrying the casket. Doubling down on the crimes.
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May 13, 2022 15:29
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The IDF somehow reaches a new low
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May 13, 2022 15:39
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I cant understand why, really. Just yesterday they were denying and trying to save face and now they will look evil if even they could somehow prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they didint kill her
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May 13, 2022 16:03
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Elias_Maluco posted:I cant understand why, really. Just yesterday they were denying and trying to save face and now they will look evil if even they could somehow prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they didint kill her It’s because they have absolute power over life and death for every Palestinian and want to show it, and know that no matter what they do they’ll never face any consequences for it.
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May 13, 2022 16:06
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Nucleic Acids posted:It’s because they have absolute power over life and death for every Palestinian and want to show it, and know that no matter what they do they’ll never face any consequences for it.
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May 13, 2022 16:17
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Nucleic Acids posted:It’s because they have absolute power over life and death for every Palestinian and want to show it, and know that no matter what they do they’ll never face any consequences for it. The answer is that Israelis are loving barbaric animals who truly only understand force and never backed down from any criminal activity until people could shoot at them like in Lebanon. The only reason Israelis stopped bombing that country on a regular basis is because hezbollah has their cities on lock.
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May 13, 2022 16:21
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Trying to remember what the proper treatment of a rabid animal is (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 13, 2022 16:36
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The crowd was armed with a casket. Did I mention they were ARMED?
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May 13, 2022 16:49
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from a nyt articlequote:In a statement, the Israeli police said they “took enforcement action” after some mourners began chanting “nationalist incitement” and after officers had given the crowd a warning. As the coffin was carried out of the hospital, police said, they were “forced to act” because “rioters began throwing stones toward the policemen.”
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May 13, 2022 18:31
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Israel must and shall suffer the wrath of a new Alexander the Great.
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May 13, 2022 18:46
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Could've been anything in that coffin, really
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May 13, 2022 21:50
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Footage of the funeral before the brave Israeli police stepped in
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May 13, 2022 22:25
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israel is so transparent, so blatant, in its actions that it still staggers me that there are people that don't see it
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May 14, 2022 01:24
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It's basically a test to filter out people with some sense of decency from those who are willing to blind themselves. At least on this particular thing anyway.
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May 14, 2022 01:29
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One thing I see often is when Israel engages in terrorism, their supporters bring up a nation like Russia or North Korea and would ask you why you are singling out Israel while other bad states also exist too? Russia: United States, G7 and EU Impose Severe and Immediate Costs on Russia • Full blocking sanctions on Russian elites and their family members, including sanctions on: President Putin’s adult children, Foreign Minister Lavrov’s wife and daughter, and members of Russia’s Security Council including former President and Prime Minister of Russia Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin. • Prohibiting new investment in the Russian Federation. • +4 more Syria: . In 1979, the United States put Syria on the list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Sudan: U.S. Department of State sanctions on Sudan Iran: U.S. Department of State sanctions on Iran North Korea: The enormous list of sanctions against the DPRK is public. Every nation Israeli supporters defer to as being a double standard are all sanctioned and punished for this. Israel is not and this is why so much attention is focused on Israel. When someone supporting Israel defers to the above nations, remind them that they are all already sanctioned and dealt with. Starpluck fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 14, 2022 |
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May 14, 2022 03:21
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Starpluck posted:One thing I see often is when Israel engages in terrorism, their supporters bring up a nation like Russia or North Korea and would ask you why you are singling out Israel while other bad states also exist too? Also, it's fun to say "You know it's possible to care about more than one thing at a time, right?" That sort of deferral is textbook whataboutism, and I find that answer satisfactorily succinct.
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May 14, 2022 03:34
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Also my tax dollars go directly to support the zionist occupiers which makes it morally incumbent on me to oppose them since my country is a nominal democracy I don't know what the line is in D&D regarding Israel so I won't just say it but what do you think should happen to these people https://twitter.com/Shepherds4Good/status/1525185141643132929
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The crowd was armed with a casket. Did I mention they were ARMED? Journalists are "armed with cameras"*, mourners with coffins. *recent IDF Tweet
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May 14, 2022 08:10
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:israel is so transparent, so blatant, in its actions that it still staggers me that there are people that don't see it Most people haven't read more than a fraction of a headline about Israel or Palestine in their lives. Support for Israel is entirely based on complacent ignorance and unchallenged domestic platitudes (Israel is the only democracy in the ME, Israel is the representative of Jewish people everywhere, we have a moral duty towards Israel etc) that are just sort of absorbed by the public through cultural osmosis.
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May 14, 2022 12:24
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Al-Saqr posted:Israel just murdered one of the most famous aljazeera correspondents in palestine while she was reporting in jenin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JorhbJtedV4&t=184s Look at that loving fascist scum. Support BDS https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/join-a-bds-campaign
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Elias_Maluco posted:I cant understand why, really. Just yesterday they were denying and trying to save face and now they will look evil if even they could somehow prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they didint kill her It's because they know the Western media will almost always try to both-sides any police-on-crowd violence, unless it happens in Iran or Russia. They can say the crowd was too violent or didn't obey orders to disperse, and all the reporters will nod their heads and dutifully write about "clashes" and "riots". They'll pretend the funeral turned into a riot, and that the authorities were regretfully forced to intervene to protect lives and property. As long as they don't shoot another person with a PRESS vest on at the funeral, they won't face much scrutiny overseas. They have plenty of experience with this playbook, because it's pretty common for Israel to bust up funerals of Palestinians who were killed by IDF excesses, and how often do you hear about it? These funerals often become pretty big, attracting large numbers of Palestinians unhappy with Israeli rule - a perfect target for Israeli authorities. This is purely aimed at disrupting the Palestinian reaction.
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May 14, 2022 18:24
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Who had "The Palestinian's stole the Coffin and the police were just trying to get it back" as a possible excuse? https://twitter.com/israelpolice/status/1525226565872893954 Oh yeah and it's total bullshit. https://twitter.com/Freedland/status/1525227396877656064
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/uorpop/israeli_police_attack_funeral_procession_of/i8hz3t2/ lol edit: Starpluck posted:One thing I see often is when Israel engages in terrorism, their supporters bring up a nation like Russia or North Korea and would ask you why you are singling out Israel while other bad states also exist too? The nation I bring up is America. Dans Macabre fucked around with this message at 19:31 on May 14, 2022 |
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May 14, 2022 19:27
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https://mobile.twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1525219780009111552 Bunch of utter loving pussies, but I didn’t expect any better
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May 14, 2022 21:22
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Saying that they're "deeply troubled" is honestly better than what I expected, considering they could have just reinforced the bullshit "the police were just trying to recover the body from radicals stealing it" propaganda Israel put out.
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steinrokkan posted:Most people haven't read more than a fraction of a headline about Israel or Palestine in their lives. Support for Israel is entirely based on complacent ignorance and unchallenged domestic platitudes (Israel is the only democracy in the ME, Israel is the representative of Jewish people everywhere, we have a moral duty towards Israel etc) that are just sort of absorbed by the public through cultural osmosis. This really isn't true though. There's a huge and incredibly well-funded propaganda apparatus that aggressively combats anti-Israel sentiment here, it's in no way passive. Those platitudes aren't something that just come out of nowhere, they're insisted upon by Israel apologists in the media and political classes so universally that the downstream public can draw no other conclusion If you are someone with a platform(or someone seeking a platform) and you talk poo poo about Israel, that whole apparatus will start swinging its dick around until either your platform is gone or you have become so marginalized that it might as well be Twelve by Pies posted:Saying that they're "deeply troubled" is honestly better than what I expected, considering they could have just reinforced the bullshit "the police were just trying to recover the body from radicals stealing it" propaganda Israel put out. Ehh I wouldn't go that far. The rhetorical point of the insane hard lines put out by Israel itself is that it creates space for supporters to frame their support in terms that appear nuanced or tempered when they're really not at all. With Democrat admins especially, it's pretty unlikely that they ever echo the exact propaganda line. There's no upside to it when they could simply feign discomfort while still backing Israeli brutality to the hilt TheIncredulousHulk fucked around with this message at 22:21 on May 14, 2022 |
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:This really isn't true though. There's a huge and incredibly well-funded propaganda apparatus that aggressively combats anti-Israel sentiment here, it's in no way passive. Those platitudes aren't something that just come out of nowhere, they're insisted upon by Israel apologists in the media and political classes so universally that the downstream public can draw no other conclusion And if you talk about this at all you get accused of antisemitism
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Nucleic Acids posted:And if you talk about this at all you get accused of antisemitism If you accuse Middle Eastern terrorists of harvesting their dead enemies' organs or engaging in some weird ritual backed by Islam, this no longer has the same protections that have been given to the Jewish people. Starpluck fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 14, 2022 |
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May 14, 2022 22:34
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I'm curious about the protections given to jewish people and where mine are. Sounds pretty sweet.
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yeah we don't have special protections but I understand folks get frustrated with coordinated efforts to shut down any reasonable criticism of israel. just getting a little nervous here.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm curious about the protections given to jewish people and where mine are. Sounds pretty sweet. https://www.aipac.org
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm curious about the protections given to jewish people and where mine are. Sounds pretty sweet. I may have used the wrong phrasing. In Germany, publicly questioning the 1945 Holocaust is illegal. When it comes to the 1948 expulsion of Palestinians from Israel (Nakba), Germany joins Israel in banning any commemoration of this act of ethnic cleansing. You would think that a country that bans any attempt to minimize the Holocaust would also be in favor of being against any attempt to diminish or hide the first of many ethnic cleansings against the Palestinian people. I did not intend to invoke the Jewish people, but I highlighted this as an example of the double standard. An article from the NPR back in 2009 revealed that Israel banned any reference to the Nakba from school texts. The same country that will jail you for questioning the Holocaust publicly, is the same that denies the existence of one of their own acts of genocide. Germany joins Israel by banning any demonstrations of the Nakba. Germany allows any commemorations of the Holocaust. Germany bans any public attempt to question the Holocaust. These were the protections I meant.
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