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Yeah, a million under arms is not unreasonable given that if they look weak Russia may just try again.
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Murgos posted:Yeah, a million under arms is not unreasonable given that if they look weak Russia may just try again. I imagine that if Ukraine survives this as a nation state then their entire society will be militarized to the teeth Israeli-style for the foreseeable future.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I imagine that if Ukraine survives this as a nation state then their entire society will be militarized to the teeth Israeli-style for the foreseeable future. Depends on what kind of Russia exists at the end of this.
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Because you guys asked, I made a thread. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4002076&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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bulletsponge13 posted:Because you guys asked, I made a thread. Hotdamn! thank you for doing this.
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SerthVarnee posted:Hotdamn! thank you for doing this. I'm hoping having some people hold me accountable will help.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I'm hoping having some people hold me accountable will help. I can’t wait to read it!
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Atreiden posted:UK MOD assesses that Russia have lost one third of the groundforces it committed in February. Russia has lost a whole third of their invasion force, plus their flagship, and idk what the dead generals count is up to today. 
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Icon Of Sin posted:Russia has lost a whole third of their invasion force, plus their flagship, and idk what the dead generals count is up to today. And at least 1 very good dog https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1525752701220528128
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https://twitter.com/Ulkoministerio/status/1525791331028721666?t=ymHmxLV4aY0-EAyroyTuJA&s=19 You, a fool: Finland and Sweden joining NATO sure isn't what old Putin expected Me, an expert: You fool, you absolute clod, this is all part of the grand plan with a feint toward [checks notes] Greater Rus
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Icon Of Sin posted:Russia has lost a whole third of their invasion force, plus their flagship, and idk what the dead generals count is up to today. I think they've lost far more than 1/3rd. The SDO in the last transcript reported: quote:And right now, by the way -- and I didn't mention this earlier -- but we assess that Russia has now 105 operational BTGs in Ukraine total. So, you're below 66% just by raw count of BTGs from the initial force which was up around 180+ BTGs. And none of those are even remotely close to 100%.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:And at least 1 very good dog LOL https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1517903677692035073
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Russia had 200k people staged on the border preinvasion, right? Are they saying that russia has over 60k kia/wounded/pow/deserters or did they invade with fewer than the total and have lost 1/3rd of that?
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Mr. Nice! posted:Russia had 200k people staged on the border preinvasion, right? Are they saying that russia has over 60k kia/wounded/pow/deserters or did they invade with fewer than the total and have lost 1/3rd of that? I believe it was 195k initially but there have also been supplemental troops added since that time. I'm not sure if we have a total deployed number. For comparisons sake, America lost roughly 36, 000 dead in the Korean War. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 15:59 on May 15, 2022 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Russia had 200k people staged on the border preinvasion, right? Are they saying that russia has over 60k kia/wounded/pow/deserters or did they invade with fewer than the total and have lost 1/3rd of that? It was something like 135k + 60k from LNR/DNR, so I'm not sure if those are being included. But given that NATO was reporting the RF took 40k casualties towards the end of the Kyiv push, I think they're using the bigger number. In which case 
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Mr. Nice! posted:Russia had 200k people staged on the border preinvasion, right? Are they saying that russia has over 60k kia/wounded/pow/deserters or did they invade with fewer than the total and have lost 1/3rd of that? It's afaik supposed to be "combat power" including vehicles, ammo, dudes, knowhow, morale and god knows what else
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Su-25 also doing the rocket-lobbing im-a-mrls-now dance, too. First time I see it. Accuracy must be atrocious, even if they reprogrammed their fire control computers for automatic release. https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1525788514142638080 Incendiary attack. https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1525714257916182528
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karoshi posted:Su-25 also doing the rocket-lobbing im-a-mrls-now dance, too. First time I see it. Accuracy must be atrocious, even if they reprogrammed their fire control computers for automatic release. If you had enough of these, aimed and positioned properly, and maybe with some of the heavier unguided rockets whose designation escapes me, maybe, maybe this might make sense in some universe. But as it is this looks like "da colonel, we empty pods on enemy" E: because I'm bored and feel like possibly making a fool of myself, the weight of the warhead on an S-5 rocket as is probably used by Su-25s and Mi-24s like this is about 2 pounds. The B-8M1 pods, assuming that's what they're using are 20 rounds. The heaviest warhead for the S-8 rocket is about 15 pounds. The Grad rocket warhead is between 40 and 50 pounds per rocket, and those are 40 tubes. I no math gud but this makes no sense on any planet. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 15, 2022 |
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How do you do the back of the napkin math to calculate the ballistic trajectory of those unguided rockets quickly enough in an actual combat situation?
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They’re not. They’re just firing them off at the dirt or apartments or whatever and loving off back home.
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Get told to go do a bombing run, given a notepaper of coordinates, go close to coordinates, blind fire missiles in safe range and get home rather than getting blown up and report mission successful.
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Murgos posted:I think they've lost far more than 1/3rd. The SDO in the last transcript reported: The US SDO has put the max number of BTGs that entered Ukraine at ~120 https://twitter.com/jackdetsch/status/1525154356596711426?s=21&t=IuH7k0cwDsBMg3bf226DoA
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mlmp08 posted:The US SDO has put the max number of BTGs that entered Ukraine at ~120 Using BTGs as a number is a bit misleading though. If I bring bring 24 wounded soldiers to a party, I can't call it a case of beer.
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psydude posted:Using BTGs as a number is a bit misleading though. If I bring bring 24 wounded soldiers to a party, I can't call it a case of beer. Agreed. They start as different sizes based on composition from day 0 and then casualties and equipment outages etc make them even more dissimilar over time.
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It's a useful metric of 'are the Russians reconsituting out-of-country or are holding back a reserve to commit elsewhere?' though.
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mlmp08 posted:The US SDO has put the max number of BTGs that entered Ukraine at ~120 Thanks, I think I conflated > 180k soldiers with 180 BTGs in my head. Probably given that a BTG seems to be about 1k soldiers.
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Absolutely catastrophic tank explosion caused by one of those mortar dropper drones: https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1525900772508061704
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It doesn't really seem like the tank tries to get away? I've seen it in other clips too, the drones can drop 3-4 bombs before the crew reacts. Would the concussive effect be enough to knock them out?
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Tanks only come with one crew. If the driver is out taking a poop or eating or whatever, gonna slow down reaction time. If the crew is asleep, reaction time. If the tank was turned off to save fuel and remain quieter, reaction time.
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my kinda ape posted:Absolutely catastrophic tank explosion caused by one of those mortar dropper drones: Jesus Christ it almost took out the drone
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Why does Russia continue to use these lovely under strength BTG formations and not just reorganize into traditional companies/brigades/regiments/divisions? E: I saw one of these clips on Reddit the other day but it was HD video of the drone dropping the bomb on a trench of infantry. They heard the whistle and started to scatter and one of the dudes took a direct hit running away. No gore because of the the dust of the explosion but that was enough internet for the day.
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meatbag posted:It doesn't really seem like the tank tries to get away? I've seen it in other clips too, the drones can drop 3-4 bombs before the crew reacts. Would the concussive effect be enough to knock them out? I saw a couple guys run away after the first blast. The crew might have been dismounted
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my kinda ape posted:Absolutely catastrophic tank explosion caused by one of those mortar dropper drones: There's a joke in here that to make top attack munitions, the Americans invented a $120,000 thermal sight to launch $175,000 missiles. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians strap standard mortar rounds of anti tank grenades to consumer dji drones.p Yes yes this started in Syria, and that does not appear to be a drone you get from best buy don't ruin my joke okay.
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meatbag posted:It doesn't really seem like the tank tries to get away? I've seen it in other clips too, the drones can drop 3-4 bombs before the crew reacts. Would the concussive effect be enough to knock them out? That might seem like forever to us watching, but with the time it takes for the driver to actually get situated, power on everything, start the engine, and get the vehicle moving, plus the delay from the initial shock and confusion and figuring out how to react, that time evaporates real quick. Naked Bear fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 15, 2022 |
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Arrath posted:There's a joke in here that to make top attack munitions, the Americans invented a $120,000 thermal sight to launch $175,000 missiles. DJI is for 1st world war tourists (and recon). That's a $30 flight controller board on a DIY drone. Well, it probably has dual IMUs, so add $4 to the price. The video is analog, with a $1.5 overlay chip putting some letters on it. Bet they spend most money on batteries, carbon fiber spars, motors and specially what seems to be a thermal camera (with analog video output). I bet the camera alone costs over $50!
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If I was sitting in a tank staring into space and a mortar just loving exploded on top of it out of the blue, I'd probably be too dazed to do anything, let alone think about driving off. e: Y'all ever been rear-ended when you weren't looking in the rear-view mirror? I've gotta imagine it's like that, but times 1000.
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As a civilian, I wonder: how much are militaries worried about their fancy million-dollar equipment being vulnerable to <1000$ off-the-shelf drones?
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ecureuilmatrix posted:As a civilian, I wonder: how much are militaries worried about their fancy million-dollar equipment being vulnerable to <1000$ off-the-shelf drones? Enough that DARPA has invested considerable money in it.
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