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I'd be willing to bet that after he loses to Wardlow, we get several months of him being somewhat psychotic and unhinged which leads to him ending up in the number 1 contender's spot through whatever means, and then goes on to win it. I can definitely see him being the champion as early as the end of this year or at the start of next year (either Winter is Coming or Revolution). Actually, if MJF isn't the champion at some point in 2023 I'll take a ban.  (Yeah, I know that's 19 months to remember but oh well.) Hoss Corncave fucked around with this message at 09:01 on May 17, 2022 |
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MJF dethroning Punk early next year once the Wardlow problem is resolved would be $$$ He arguably only lost this time because of Wardlow so there’s a perfectly valid reason for a do-over right there.
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May 16, 2022 17:53
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Gaz-L posted:It isn't out of the question that he felt he was next in line for the title and now it seems like that's Punk. Punk is not gonna beat hangman, but mjf might do so later in the year
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May 16, 2022 18:01
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MJF beats Hangman and then eventually defends against Punk, who already has a victory over him.
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May 16, 2022 18:11
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WARDLOW brings the ring out to Punk and Punk uses it to defeat Hangman
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May 16, 2022 18:14
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The whole "The Refs need to be invisible!" is some 2000s Vince brainworms poo poo. So of course these idiots take it as gospel.
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May 16, 2022 18:20
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the best refs were all completely unnoticeable and unmemorable, like Charles Robinson, or Earl Hebner
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May 16, 2022 18:24
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Nick Patrick was actually the invisible man at Joey Janella Spring Break Cluster gently caress
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May 16, 2022 18:26
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MJF only got to beat CM Punk twice in Chicago, he wanted at least four
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May 16, 2022 18:30
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I've heard MJF is sad because he doesn't get to call him mom mean names enough on TBS
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May 16, 2022 18:33
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Ganso Bomb posted:MJF beats Hangman and then eventually defends against Punk, who already has a victory over him. I think this is the most likely option
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May 16, 2022 18:52
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People have been complaining about Bryce getting himself over as a "personality" for like fifteen years now
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Big Dave posted:People have been complaining about Bryce getting himself over as a "personality" for like fifteen years now Unfuckable nerds have been bitching about earl Hebner showing too much personality since 1997
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May 16, 2022 19:04
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I used to be able to name every WWE ref back when I watch. Jfc there was even a ref match during the Invasion.
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May 16, 2022 19:07
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if you know the name of a like baseball umpire it's because he sucks at his job but pro wrestling officiating is used for storytelling reasons more often than not so it's dumb as hell to reduce the refs to blank slates in striped shirts.
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May 16, 2022 19:12
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Chioda, Hebner, Other Hebner. WCW had Smol Naitch and that little guy who put a fan in a shoot guillotine that one time
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May 16, 2022 19:13
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wcw refs were underrated. they had a handful of the best little guys. mark curtis. randy anderson. small ric flair. mickey jay
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AEW refs are great and can even add stuff to matches. Like Bryce generally (maybe always?) refs Eddie Kingston's matches, and he had the amazing bit where he was begging Eddie to tap out in his world title match with Moxley rather than, presumably, die in the ring. It makes sense and is a fun addition to the match that shows AEW truly understands all of the moving pieces that make up good storytelling.
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Seams posted:https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1526219972489486336 Don't post rovert and don't believe rovert
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It's the whole "this traditionally has never been done so clearly it's wrong and bad." Like even if it is uncommon for people to be cheering a ref... well, Aubrey's over. We like her. At what point does this result in AEW losing money and/or viewers?
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rotinaj posted:Unfuckable nerds have been bitching about earl Hebner showing too much personality since 1997 Yeah but Hebner really started to suck poo poo later on and did actually feel like he was in the way
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God drat it, they have a roster full of people I like. This is the last straw, AEW.
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Besides Lil' Naitch and Jessicka Carr, I only know Jersey Shore ref, Scared Baby ref, and Asian ref
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I won't stand for this Danny Davis erasure  Maxwell Lord posted:It's the whole "this traditionally has never been done so clearly it's wrong and bad." It's mostly "WWE doesn't do that therefore it's objectively wrong and bad"
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Shard posted:Don't post rovert and don't believe rovert I remember him telling some absoltuley monster lies when he posted here lol
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Watching old NWA stuff from 1989 and I genuinely lost track of how many times JR kept pointing out how Tommy Young was a multi-time recipient of the NWA Referee of the Year award Also, Shard posted:Don't post rovert and don't believe rovert
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surprised someone hasn't replied to the aewbotches guy with the weird tim white suicide skits that they ran on wwe.com like a month after eddie guerrero died
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The refs are performers as well, why shouldn't they try to get themselves over?
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Cerebral Bore posted:The refs are performers as well, why shouldn't they try to get themselves over? is this all a thing from cornette or some other ancient faded useless wrestling dorkus malorkus who thinks the refs should be seen but not heard or noticed? I bet that’s where this started
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https://twitter.com/WrestlingIsKing/status/1526156432143425537 These types are really good at clever nicknames. Obamailures level stuff.
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I would much rather have referees who have character and personality than just a boring blank slate in the ring personally. It's fun when referees have their own traits and quirks and can really add to a show.Fsmhunk posted:I remember him telling some absoltuley monster lies when he posted here lol Surprise! He's still telling absolutely monster lies on twitter, where he has to post because he's been chased off of every other forum on the internet!
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Folks be serious. If the referee is part of the match, and not invisible that means they can influence it, either directly by screwing with someone, or being offered bribes etc, or indirectly, by them being distracted in some way, and this behaviour would be unacceptable in pro wrestling.
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Anger at a real-life referee gave us the Dear Ed 'Guns' Hochuli thread and he didn't even have the benefit of scripting to provoke it.
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MJF trying to bribe off Bryce to avoid a countout loss the other week would have been much better if he had just been some faceless dude you don't know and not a person with a personality and past.
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Vandar posted:. And he is extremely not mad about it
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Serperoth posted:Folks be serious. If the referee is part of the match, and not invisible that means they can influence it, either directly by screwing with someone, or being offered bribes etc, or indirectly, by them being distracted in some way, and this behaviour would be unacceptable in pro wrestling.  I expect only the fairest interpretation of the rules from Rick 'On The Take' Knox
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When I ran an efed, we had three referee characters each with their own personality. One was a plain jane bog standard normal dude, the other was a retired luchadore who still wore his mask, and the third was a bloodthirsty Japanese death match legend who would always show bias towards the wrestler causing the most pain. Ref characters rule.
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Rarity posted:
You cannot hope to bribe or fox The Young Bucks' referee Rick Knox But seeing what the man will do unbribed, there's no occasion to.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:When I ran an efed, we had three referee characters each with their own personality. One was a plain jane bog standard normal dude, the other was a retired luchadore who still wore his mask, and the third was a bloodthirsty Japanese death match legend who would always show bias towards the wrestler causing the most pain. Ref characters rule. I just in general don't see why you would choose to absolutely exclude something that you can easily use to tell stories.
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There's a point in the Flair/Steamboat 2/3 falls match where I think Flair covers Steamboat near the ropes, Tommy Young goes out of the ring to make the count on the apron, and JR specifically says 'good officiating by Tommy Young there, if you can't get a good vantage point in the ring, it makes sense to get out to make the count', and that's stuck with me since I rewatched it a few weeks ago hell, one of the best WWE matches of all time featured Ken Shamrock as a clearly visible and present referee, and you can't say he wasn't a major reason why that match worked so well e: actually, you know exactly how ahistorical the 'referees should be invisible' take is? This match between Lou Thesz and Buddy Rogers from the 1950s wouldn't be half as good as it is without Jack Dempsey's officiating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqIHV0m29FU Venomous fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 16, 2022 |
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