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rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Seriously, smooth accel/decel and using the cruise control will get you pretty far. If you're looking to hypermile, no Subaru on earth will do that for you.

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Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Averaging 32mpg in mostly highway driving in the 2019 forester now that I set "eco" cruise control and mostly use just the cruise control and go the speed limit instead of 15 over. Using the foot pedal and going as fast as safe was seeing the same commute producing 28mpg. Idk if 32mpg is hyper miling tho, at these prices just that bit of improvement feels great though. Thinking about lowering it too.

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


I feel like a genius when I get 20mpg in the '93. Partner has a hybrid Carolla and it's fun trying to eke out an extra .5 over 50mpg. Thing is bonkers.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

rickiep00h posted:

I feel like a genius when I get 20mpg in the '93. Partner has a hybrid Carolla and it's fun trying to eke out an extra .5 over 50mpg. Thing is bonkers.

My Sierra 1500 gets 19 MPG, 17ish when I'm towing the Subaru. The Subaru gets around 15.

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

daslog posted:

My Sierra 1500 gets 19 MPG, 17ish when I'm towing the Subaru. The Subaru gets around 15.

:same:

It’s miserable city gas mileage. If I’m doing endless freeway miles though then it gets around 35.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





2014 WRX, having a slow power steering leak. Sounds like it's fairly common for the steering rack pinion valve to leak, which the usual fix is replacing the whole steering rack. Costs about $1200 to have done. Sound about right? Anything else I need to know?

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



um excuse me posted:

Custom tune around these parts is $600. ROI is probably measured in years of miserable driving. Adjusting driving habits is free and will probably do more.

If you want a taste, just drive around in vallet mode for a bit.

I kind of wonder if an 87-octane tune would be possible like how some newer cars are made from the factory for 87 with a turbo. It might be another situation where at that point you might as well be driving an NA car but if it was livable that chops like 50-80 cents per gallon off the cost of gas. Still not a good ROI, more of a science experiment with a blown engine on the line.

I feel lucky to be getting ~25-30 in my '99, but that might have to do with the higher elevation meaning that the MAF sees less air coming in so the injectors push less fuel, basically becoming a detuned engine. OTOH I also haven't measured since i moved even higher up and had to start using 4th gear for long hills. Trying to maximize mileage in my old hybrid Camry was fun but that was about the only fun thing in it. I stopped driving it long distances because I was having trouble staying awake. Kind of shameful to be getting 15 though, even my SVX averages somewhere over 20 and it is old as gently caress and 3.3l through an automatic. Maybe it's the gearing.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye

Internet Explorer posted:

2014 WRX, having a slow power steering leak. Sounds like it's fairly common for the steering rack pinion valve to leak, which the usual fix is replacing the whole steering rack. Costs about $1200 to have done. Sound about right? Anything else I need to know?

That price probably involves a brand new OEM rack which is around 800 bucks (or it should, for that price). You can also rebuild the rack itself for less than a hundred bucks with fresh seals, but that's more labor, and that's probably only an option to think about if you are doing it yourself and have some extra time and ambition (most shops wouldn't do it). A remanufactured rack is about 250 if you have a shop that will use one instead of just only quoting a brand new OEM rack.

Additionally, lots of people put a 2015+ STI rack in instead, which has a faster ratio (I did it on my Legacy and it really woke up the steering. Huge upgrade). I think it's a drop-in on that year car and the price is nearly the same.

No matter which option you go with, your car will need an alignment afterwards, so make sure that is in the quote or you budget another hundred bucks for that.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Perfect, thanks for the info. I'm not mechanically inclined and don't have a ton of interest in learning, so I'll have the pros do it. Those STI and alignment tips are good, will look into that. Thank you!

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

Retarded for Busting
Grimey Drawer
Sounds like a great excuse for the STi rack

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye

Internet Explorer posted:

Perfect, thanks for the info. I'm not mechanically inclined and don't have a ton of interest in learning, so I'll have the pros do it. Those STI and alignment tips are good, will look into that. Thank you!

Sure, there’s also a rubber steering joint on your car and there is an STI equivalent that is solid. That helps with steering feel as well. If the rack is coming out it’s trivial to add the solid joint. Part number is 34170VA030 I think. But it’s not a must and will cost another 120-200 bucks depending on if you get brand new OEM or an eBay take-off

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
The power steering on my 09 (RIP) failed and I replaced the rack with the equivalent sti one - seconding the world of difference. Definitely go for it if the price is the same.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Well now I'm excited. Turning lemons into lemonade itt

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
My girlfriends 2010 forester threw a rod yesterday. What should we be looking at cost-wise for a new engine. The place it's at quoted $6k which probably isn't happening even with how hosed the overall market is right now. I'm trying to get ahold of some shops in her area to get quotes.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Wait 6k is too low or too high? I'm embarrassed to say how much my engine rebuild was when I spun a rod in my 15 WRX but I completely overbuilt it. $14,000

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Ebay engines are usually around $1500-2000.

My '13 Outback FB25 swap was about $4300 about 18 months ago at a Subaru specialist (speed shop/third party) in Colorado Springs (TGA Performance) and included a clutch and flywheel at that price.

Your cheapest option is basically ebay engine at a third party shop.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

um excuse me posted:

Wait 6k is too low or too high? I'm embarrassed to say how much my engine rebuild was when I spun a rod in my 15 WRX but I completely overbuilt it. $14,000

That is a very close number to what it costs to K24 swap a BRZ :v:

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

um excuse me posted:

Wait 6k is too low or too high? I'm embarrassed to say how much my engine rebuild was when I spun a rod in my 15 WRX but I completely overbuilt it. $14,000

Probably too high for that car. I'd rather spend more and get something newer even though the market is hosed.

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Ebay engines are usually around $1500-2000.

My '13 Outback FB25 swap was about $4300 about 18 months ago at a Subaru specialist (speed shop/third party) in Colorado Springs (TGA Performance) and included a clutch and flywheel at that price.

Your cheapest option is basically ebay engine at a third party shop.

I wish she were out here in Colorado right now because the availability of independent shops would make this easier. Something in that price range would be easier to swallow but I highly doubt that's doable where she's at.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Well, either way she has a wait in front of her of at least a few weeks if she dropped it off today. It takes about a week to shuffle an ebay engine around on freight, then wait for it to have time in the shop.

There were more hiccups with mine, I had originally intended just to have it resealed (engine has to be pulled for it) but they started finding other poo poo wrong immediately due to starvation so it was cheaper to replace than rebuild.

Getting a newer engine is a good idea, if you go ebay. My current engine is from a wrecked '15.

It might be better to drag it to a dealer and use it towards something else.

PitViper
May 25, 2003

Welcome and thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart!
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Where is the car located? I'll admit I spent $5500 to replace the motor in an '05 LGT, but that was all parts and "free" labor, and I did it because gently caress car shopping last year. I'd probably make the same decision today, tbh. If my wife's car blew up tomorrow, I'd be dragging home a junkyard engine.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

PitViper posted:

Where is the car located? I'll admit I spent $5500 to replace the motor in an '05 LGT, but that was all parts and "free" labor, and I did it because gently caress car shopping last year. I'd probably make the same decision today, tbh. If my wife's car blew up tomorrow, I'd be dragging home a junkyard engine.

rural-ish Missouri. About an hour from Kansas City. I'm admittedly largely hesitant because it's already rocking almost 180k miles and the only real reason I'm even considering it is the state of the used car market.

PitViper
May 25, 2003

Welcome and thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart!
I love you!

fknlo posted:

rural-ish Missouri. About an hour from Kansas City. I'm admittedly largely hesitant because it's already rocking almost 180k miles and the only real reason I'm even considering it is the state of the used car market.

If it's not a rusty mess, I'd rock a junkyard motor into it and call it good. Mine already had 220k on it, but I knew I wasn't selling anytime soon so it got an OE short block, rebuilt heads, and every new rubber hose and accessory I could. I'd just replaced all 4 suspension corners and the steering rack the year before, so sunk-cost was strong.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Subaru dealership says my toe arms are frozen in the rear of my 15 WRX. I need recommendations if anyone has upgraded theirs. I'm also wondering if using solid bushings there will make a noticeable difference to road noise and harshness. My intuition says its an alignment piece for stabilizing the upright so it should be minimally affected, but I dont have solid bushings in anything.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I'm finally doing my water pump and I got all the bolts out but it feels very stuck. I whacked the pulley with a rubber mallet a few times to try to knock the pump loose but it's still on there good. Anyone do a water pump on a very old Subaru? The gasket at least on the crank side of the pump feels very oily and swollen so I'm worried that's causing sticking.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
I wonder if it would be worth it to put a new engine in my girlfriend’s forester and then sell the thing? I feel like you wouldn’t lose money in this market.

e: It is not worth it. At best we might come out a couple hundred bucks ahead.

fknlo fucked around with this message at 22:49 on May 2, 2022

Majere
Oct 22, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I'm real glad Subaru makes a master gasket kit for the EJ. REALLY wish they had a master hose and pipe kit for everything attached to the intake manifold. Every single hose is rotten and picking out every single hose from 3 or 4 different systems running along the topside sucks so much. I know I can use some regular rubber hose from the auto parts store for some of them, but subaru really went to town on custom bent hoses to keep them from kinking.

PitViper
May 25, 2003

Welcome and thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart!
I love you!

Majere posted:

I'm real glad Subaru makes a master gasket kit for the EJ. REALLY wish they had a master hose and pipe kit for everything attached to the intake manifold. Every single hose is rotten and picking out every single hose from 3 or 4 different systems running along the topside sucks so much. I know I can use some regular rubber hose from the auto parts store for some of them, but subaru really went to town on custom bent hoses to keep them from kinking.

God that's the truth, I ordered the master gasket set with the short block to save myself a bunch of time. I tried to order as many new OEM hoses as I could at the same time, but I know I left some old ones because they got missed or I couldn't find the P/N. I did replace a bunch with silicone hoses, so hopefully I don't have to rip the intake manifold off again for a while.

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



Pouring one out for my 2002 Impreza. Head gaskets, axles, and a bunch of other bits are hosed and I can’t justify the money the shop wants to fix it up. I wish I lived somewhere I could stash it away until it found a new home with someone car-savy (or even work on it myself gradually) but Seattle doesn’t have a lotta spare parking. None of the shop guys even wanted to buy it as a project car so I think its future lies in the Pick-N-Pull yard, they offered me about the same as the local dealerships, given its condition. Wish the car market wasn’t so insane these days, would be a lot easier to make a confident decision.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

drat rip.

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



Lawman 0 posted:

drat rip.

Haha thanks
I don’t know why I felt compelled to post about it just bummed to say goodbye to a car that’s almost old enough to drink.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Anyways I'm now part of a Subura Crew I presume I will get my complimentary flannel somewhere?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
You have to buy your own and submit a receipt for reimbursement.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

But you can get my first suby badge for free: https://www.badgeofownership.com/UI/dist/

fresh_cheese
Jul 2, 2014

MY KPI IS HOW MANY VP NUTS I SUCK IN A FISCAL YEAR AND MY LAST THREE OFFICE CHAIRS COMMITTED SUICIDE
Any ideas on a 2021 wrx with 15k mi on it thats having occasional hard starts?

Like once every 2-3 weeks itll crank for 4 seconds , not start, release key, wait 2 sec, crank 3 seconds and it starts.

It sounds like no fuel or no spark while cranking.


It has always started the second crank.

Wtf??

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Here’s an interesting take on the Toyobaru:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-71/

Kreez
Oct 18, 2003

fresh_cheese posted:

Any ideas on a 2021 wrx with 15k mi on it thats having occasional hard starts?

Like once every 2-3 weeks itll crank for 4 seconds , not start, release key, wait 2 sec, crank 3 seconds and it starts.

It sounds like no fuel or no spark while cranking.


It has always started the second crank.

Wtf??

My 2005 wrx does exactly this (down to it being every 2-3 weeks) as well, and has since I've had it for the past 4 years. In that time it's had spark plugs and crank sensor replaced (for other reasons) with no change to this happening for no apparent reason once a month, so I don't think either of those are responsible.

Kreez fucked around with this message at 17:50 on May 7, 2022

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Given how much snap oversteer that chassis has as a RWD, I'm surprised it hasnt been wrapped around a tree

Majere
Oct 22, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Seems every video and forum post on building/rebuilding an EJ gets to assembling the long block and then cuts to "ready to drop in". I guess they all say gently caress it and don't video or document the best way/order to put everything back on top of the motor?

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
Anyone have any recommendations for a CarPlay head unit to replace the stock head unit in a 2017 BRZ? Obviously want to keep the backup camera and the last car I replaced the head unit in was a 1990 Chevy Beretta, so I don't really know much about aftermarket head units these days...

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rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Majere posted:

Seems every video and forum post on building/rebuilding an EJ gets to assembling the long block and then cuts to "ready to drop in". I guess they all say gently caress it and don't video or document the best way/order to put everything back on top of the motor?

"Installation is the reverse of removal." :v:

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