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Wrong Theory posted:Bada ba ba blyat
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May 16, 2022 21:53
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https://twitter.com/larisamlbrown/status/1526305351926161408 You know who else was an incessant micromanager who issued orders at the tactical level
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May 16, 2022 22:27
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I know it's not 1:1 comparison, but the idea of any American president, but particularly 45 & 46, commanding an Infantry BN is a level of unnatural comedy.
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May 16, 2022 22:41
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Crab Dad posted:I mean… cool and all but they ain’t under fire. They're not meant to be. If you expect to be under fire you conduct an combined arms amphibious operation with copious covering artillery and lots of air cover to establish a bridgehead and push enemy artillery back. Then you deploy the bridge and start moving your main armored and logistical elements in. bulletsponge13 posted:I know it's not 1:1 comparison, but the idea of any American president, but particularly 45 & 46, commanding an Infantry BN is a level of unnatural comedy. Who is the last President that could competently command battalion sized formation? Carter? Kennedy? Eisenhower? A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 22:49 on May 16, 2022 |
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May 16, 2022 22:43
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A.o.D. posted:Who is the last President that could competently command battalion sized formation? Carter? Kennedy? Eisenhower? HW was a pilot and Carter was a submariner; if you're willing to accept general command, Ford evidently did a good job commanding damage control when his ship got sailed into a typhoon, but it'd be Eisenhower and Truman if you insist on the army.
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May 16, 2022 22:54
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A.o.D. posted:They're not meant to be. If you expect to be under fire you conduct an combined arms amphibious operation with copious covering artillery and lots of air cover to establish a bridgehead and push enemy artillery back. Then you deploy the bridge and start moving your main armored and logistical elements in. My opinion would be Ike for sure, Ford maybe, and while I'm going to sound crazy, I think Carter would handle it well.
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May 16, 2022 22:56
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Looks like the Azovstal siege is over. Remaining Azov members appears to have been bussed to separatist controlled territory where they will wait to be repatriated in a prisoner swap. I wonder what the odds are of that actually happening as opposed to them disappearing into some separatist torture dungeon. https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1526312579144028161?t=rpWaunXMxuQgvODDsL3ozQ&s=19 https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1526314161814355968?t=M3yvsJ5rzheBUEG8sLT0rA&s=19
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May 16, 2022 23:07
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A.o.D. posted:They're not meant to be. If you expect to be under fire you conduct an combined arms amphibious operation with copious covering artillery and lots of air cover to establish a bridgehead and push enemy artillery back. Then you deploy the bridge and start moving your main armored and logistical elements in. I’d guess Truman or Eisenhower due to them both being Army Officers. Carter I don’t believe did more than his 5 years in the Navy, and JFK wasn’t particularly well know as a tactician despite the PT109 mythology.
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May 16, 2022 23:11
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bulletsponge13 posted:My opinion would be Ike for sure, Ford maybe, and while I'm going to sound crazy, I think Carter would handle it well. I didn't list Carter's name as a joke. He ran a nuclear meltdown recovery team, no small feat that comes with an incredible amount of pressure. I think he's the most recent President that had the chops for battalion level command.
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May 16, 2022 23:12
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I have friends who are Carter historians and apparently he was a real jackass micromanager in his time in. Even to fellow O's who didn't do things the "right way".
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May 16, 2022 23:13
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BUG JUG posted:I have friends who are Carter historians and apparently he was a real jackass micromanager in his time in. Even to fellow O's who didn't do things the "right way". Yes, well... nuke.
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May 16, 2022 23:16
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Wrong Theory posted:Bada ba ba blyat 
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May 16, 2022 23:20
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His response to the Iran Hostage Seige is a solid example of where he was smart enough to know he was dumb. It maybe should have have had some tighter commands, because even in the early stages, there was concern. There were so many moving parts and points of failure. Some of the commandos said they were shocked they got to Desert One. While even on paper, Eagle Claw looks desperate to fail. If so many of the key players hadn't been involved in Son Tay, I don't think the idea would have got off the ground. Son Tay was pretty close to the original concept of operations in Iran, with the needed complications of being in a non-permissive non-hostile nation. Carter will always have my respect because when asked about his regrets as a CinC said, "I wish I would have sent 1 more helicopter." He said the loses of men and standing always tinged his memory. Which as a Grunt, hearing the CinC wishing he had sent more help was an American ideal
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May 16, 2022 23:29
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https://twitter.com/tpyxanews/status/1526329491064336385?s=21&t=4zwJJfABRd3tk78rQV7-Rw An explosion going off nearby, no gore or death.
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May 16, 2022 23:33
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A.o.D. posted:Who is the last President that could competently command battalion sized formation? Carter? Kennedy? Eisenhower? A wildcard: 
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May 16, 2022 23:43
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lol. lmao ROFL
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May 16, 2022 23:46
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teddy. would eugenics the hell out of this and then charge the cavalry
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May 16, 2022 23:52
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/larisamlbrown/status/1526305351926161408 "I love war...I know more about war...than the generals do." 
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May 16, 2022 23:59
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I picture that scene in Red Dawn, where the Pilot Major is briefing the raid. 'Whats a defilade?' But with dumber questions.
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May 17, 2022 00:03
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"what do you mean 'infantry need cover'"
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May 17, 2022 00:10
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Herstory Begins Now posted:"what do you mean 'infantry need cover'" "We already gave them hats!"
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May 17, 2022 00:20
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bulletsponge13 posted:I picture that scene in Red Dawn, where the Pilot Major is briefing the raid. That Major Powers Boothe thank you.
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May 17, 2022 00:30
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:"We already gave them hats!" "The best hats. Hats like they've never seen. They said, "How come we couldn't have these hats sooner. They are the best hats!". "That's fine, Mr. President, but uh, how about you send some invisible jets there?"
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May 17, 2022 00:33
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Crab Dad posted:I mean… cool and all but they ain’t under fire. I assume the answer to "how to you conduct a bridging operation under artillery fire?" is "you don't." But if you had to, I assume part of the operation is counterbattery fire or air support to disrupt the defenders artillery?
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May 17, 2022 00:43
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Marshal Prolapse posted:That Major Powers Boothe thank you. Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Tanner, USAF 
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May 17, 2022 00:45
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Soylent Pudding posted:I assume the answer to "how to you conduct a bridging operation under artillery fire?" is "you don't." But if you had to, I assume part of the operation is counterbattery fire or air support to disrupt the defenders artillery? Ideally, yes, and you would also have a few thousand Infantry on the far side making things interesting.
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May 17, 2022 00:45
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The main takeaway from all this is that the Russian bridgehead attempt is a textbook case in a) how not to bridgehead and b) this is what happens when you do it wrong.
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May 17, 2022 00:58
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Or how to war for that matter.
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May 17, 2022 00:59
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sneakyfrog posted:Or how to war for that matter. Crazy talk. Russia is winning plenty bigly, thank you very much.
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May 17, 2022 01:04
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sneakyfrog posted:Or how to war for that matter. I only Minored in Warology, but in my expertise, yes. This exactly how to not war.
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May 17, 2022 01:12
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that river crossing at a bare minimum will become a new textbook ambush in somebody's war college for sure.
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May 17, 2022 01:18
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sneakyfrog posted:that river crossing at a bare minimum will become a new textbook ambush in somebody's war college for sure. It will be an addendum to the Israeli Intel Officer who warned about the Egyptian advances and preps for an offensive before the Yom Kippur War and was ignored. Even though he brought physical evidence he personally collected after being told to ignore it.
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May 17, 2022 01:24
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I'm not sure I follow but I don't know the specifics of that story sorry.
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May 17, 2022 01:30
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bulletsponge13 posted:It will be an addendum to the Israeli Intel Officer who warned about the Egyptian advances and preps for an offensive before the Yom Kippur War and was ignored. Even though he brought physical evidence he personally collected after being told to ignore it. I'm picturing him standing in front of the Israeli general staff agitatedly waving around a bewildered captured Egyptian private by the scruff of his neck
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May 17, 2022 01:31
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Soylent Pudding posted:I assume the answer to "how to you conduct a bridging operation under artillery fire?" is "you don't." But if you had to, I assume part of the operation is counterbattery fire or air support to disrupt the defenders artillery? If you have reduced your options so severely that it’s cross here under corrected fire or cross no where you probably have some pretty big problems. That the Russians tried the same place twice probably indicates their problems are largely internal.
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May 17, 2022 01:38
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A.o.D. posted:The main takeaway from all this is that the Russian bridgehead attempt is a textbook case in a) how not to bridgehead and b) this is what happens when you do it wrong. Somewhere in Hell Marshal Cadorna breathes a sigh of relief as his photo finally gets replaced in the textbooks.
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May 17, 2022 01:43
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sneakyfrog posted:I'm not sure I follow but I don't know the specifics of that story sorry. To me they are linked operationally. In the weeks before the Yom Kippur War, the Arab forces were all having 'exercises'. This Intel Officer noticed the strange positions of Egyptian armor and mechanized units along the shared border. When engineer units moved forward, he went himself (having already reported what the Egyptians were doing, with evidence in the form of reports and forward recon) and took a homemade drone to take pictures of the engineering units breaching the defensive positions, and using the berm earth to ford the Sinai, putting almost all of Egypt's forces inside Israel's B-hole. Even when defensive units were reporting hearing Egyptian forces on the near shore, IDF command ignored it. E- note: I am a loving weirdo. bulletsponge13 fucked around with this message at 01:55 on May 17, 2022 |
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May 17, 2022 01:45
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bulletsponge13 posted:
Eh all good. Most I know is small unit tactics, wasn't ever any fancy strategy dude or anything
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