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SonicRulez posted:I thought it looked quirky, but I suppose I'm the odd man out on largely enjoying the D+ shows. Some slow episodes here and there, but nothing I thought was putrid. No Iron Fists or whatever Opopanax posted:All of the D+ shows have been at lead tgood, but people acting like Wandavision was bad are nuts
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Wandvision-bad Falcon and winter soldier-bad Loki- good What if?- bad Hawkeye- good Moon knight- bad
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May 18, 2022 01:29
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I liked em all. I think I had the least fun with Moon Knight but only because a third of the run is kinda boring. It's still not bad, though
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May 18, 2022 02:24
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Yeah, I've liked everything with What If? being my least favorite. Looking forward to this and hoping they do more work on her face cgi.
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May 18, 2022 02:48
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Oh hey meanwhile: https://twitter.com/Netflix_Sandman/status/1526231801965907968
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I'd say that the D+ shows have been uneven, leaning towards the good side. There's bits I like and don't from all of them. On the whole I would put them above more typical superhero TV fare (CW) but can't say they're absolute top shelf poo poo (Peacemaker).
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May 18, 2022 03:24
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I've been catching up on Riverdale and the writers' room apparently said "Suicide D&D and Betty's evil genes are nowhere near batshit insane enough" and turned the knob to 11 such that Netflix Sabrina appearing is just like "yeah okay fine"
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Opopanax posted:All of the D+ shows have been at least good, but people acting like Wandavision was bad are nuts You liked the last couple of episodes? I think I'm the only one here who didn't like Hawkeye. Seems like most ppl liked it, huh.
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May 18, 2022 04:19
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God now I'm remembering the terrible ending of Sabrina, with the apparent message being "teens, it's cool and good to kill yourself if you miss someone"
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May 18, 2022 04:24
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Hawkeye was blandly forgettable which is not "good". I think a lot of the Wandavision hate is because it was good, and then the ending sucked all the life out of it and retroactively made people think it was worse than it was.
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May 18, 2022 04:32
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Nah, Hawkeye is good and gets better with each episode. Especially when Pugh enters the show.
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May 18, 2022 04:59
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Wandavision: Good: Central premise, build up to Monica, interplay between Wanda and Vis, some of the gimmicky poo poo (you-know-who and who else) Bad: Those flying specials effects were loving terrible, the twins should probably be at least a bit more memorable/likeable, some important load-bearing dialog bits were super lame Falcon & WS Good: Pretty decent action, Sam's family drama, Zemo, Bucky's coping, the Bradleys, Walker's gradual descent into being Coptain America Bad: All that stuff with Sharon, Sam's not as good at speeches as Steve, politics are fence-sitty, the Captain Falcon costume looks a bit rubbish Loki Good: most of it Bad: Non-ending that is mostly just bait for more movies/TV What If: Good: Hits the concept right on the head, some fun AUs, at least one episode that delivers on classic "Wow, everything is awful!" What If vibes Bad: Two missing episodes which impacted the finale, animation style is not particularly amazing, a lot of the replacement voice actors (and some of the voice acting performances by the live action cast) are awwwwwful Hawkeye: Good: Kate's good, Clint makes a decent mentor, good little action adventure, DOG Bad: Why even bring in you-know-who if they're gonna do that with him, Echo stuff is interesting but feels tonally at odds with the rest of the show Moon Knight: Good: Relatively independent from rest of the MCU, delivers well on the core premise, mixes things up to keep it from getting stale, last episode is a real hoot Bad: This is still probably a bad use of mental health as a storytelling device, on a narrative level the non-ending just sets up season 2, and I honestly don't care that much for the whole Indiana Jones tomb raiding thing treasure hunter bit
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May 18, 2022 05:54
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Scaramouche posted:Hawkeye was blandly forgettable which is not "good". I think a lot of the Wandavision hate is because it was good, and then the ending sucked all the life out of it and retroactively made people think it was worse than it was. I would argue the last episode of every D+ Marvel show except Loki and maybe What If? take huge nosedives in quality. Wandavision gets more poo poo about it than the rest because it was first but it feels like a consistent pattern now.
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OnimaruXLR posted:Loki IIRC the non-ending was because of COVID cutting the season short.
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I love Tatiana Maslany (she blew me away with her performances on Orphan Black) but it really seems odd that they didn't go for a taller actress for the She-Hulk part. I guess they have to do CGI no matter what.
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May 18, 2022 12:04
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Scaramouche posted:Hawkeye was blandly forgettable which is not "good". I think a lot of the Wandavision hate is because it was good, and then the ending sucked all the life out of it and retroactively made people think it was worse than it was.
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WandaVision is the only D+ show I've seen so far that I can say I thoroughly enjoyed. Falcon & The Winter Soldier was okay, Loki didn't grab me, Hawkeye I actively disliked, and Moon Knight was a little disappointing. The shows have a much rougher track record than the films so far, in my opinion. As for She-Hulk, I can't say this trailer excited me. Subpar CGI is a non-issue for me most of the time, but when it's the main character and it's this rough I don't know if I will be able to look past it. I think the trailer also gave us very little to go on. I can't really get a lock on what the premise of the series is going to be, but we'll probably get a more informative trailer later, so that's fine. So far it doesn't excite me, though.
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May 18, 2022 13:46
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Maduo posted:I would argue the last episode of every D+ Marvel show except Loki and maybe What If? take huge nosedives in quality. Wandavision gets more poo poo about it than the rest because it was first but it feels like a consistent pattern now. The last episode of Hawkeye is probably the best episode of the show.
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Alhazred posted:Adding Echo and Kingpin who are primarily Daredevil characters didn't make much sense though. Echo was Ronin for a while so I can see how she'd end up in what was a very Ronin heavy story.
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May 18, 2022 15:15
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I would say good but a little uneven is the best description of all the D+ shows. All in all I just enjoy getting more time with the characters, and I generally have a lot of fun. Plenty of little character moments that are really enjoyable in every single series.
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Medullah posted:I guess they have to do CGI no matter what. i cant get over the fact that she hulk is all cg and yet has less muscle definition than Natalie Portman does as Thor
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May 18, 2022 17:15
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My super fuzzy She-Hulk memories from the books (mostly 80's Avengers) is that she was always rolling in the Hulk form. Canonically, could she shift at will?
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May 18, 2022 17:28
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The series will probably start with her not wanting to be a Hulk, and trying to hide it, and then she'll gradually accept it and actually start to like it, so will turn permanently. Like Marty McFly in Teen Wolf.
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Alhazred posted:I think Hawkeye came really close to the Fraction/Aja run. It actually made me care about the character. Adding Echo and Kingpin who are primarily Daredevil characters didn't make much sense though. Now this I can't abide. It had the superficial aspects of it, bro dudes and whatever, but it didn't have anything close to the lived in vibe, the decision to showcase and celebrate every day ppl, the style, the focus on Hawkeye's faults and how he overcomes them, a likeable and cool Kate, flat out good writing and inventiveness, of that run.. The only way I got closer to liking the show was bc I realized it wasn't going to be it and I had to accept that. Okay, Kingpin is in this and he's wearing a Hawaiin shirt whatever. At least Yelena was cool.
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It also sucks thay Aja didn't get any money or credit for the episodes at all, even as it's marketing just crudely copied over his artwork and design
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Medullah posted:I love Tatiana Maslany (she blew me away with her performances on Orphan Black) but it really seems odd that they didn't go for a taller actress for the She-Hulk part. I guess they have to do CGI no matter what. Yeah, also the transformation is much less dramatic if the actress is already big.
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they'd absolutely be better off casting some gigantic Instagram crossfit lady, painting her green, and only using CG to drop orphan black's face on her head.
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I wanted something that would be more wacky lawyer hijinx with a 7 foot tall green woman and the trailer seemed to indicate that the show is leaning more into generic action stuff. Meanwhile this needs some more love.
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May 18, 2022 19:45
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Whenever She-Hulk would be on screen the picture goes black. The show becomes a radio drama and we have to imagine what everything looks like as we listen in.
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site posted:i cant get over the fact that she hulk is all cg and yet has less muscle definition than Natalie Portman does as Thor This is what really gets me. How do you give a cg character less muscle than a real actual human being has? hell she looks less jacked than tatiana maslany actually is Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 20:39 on May 18, 2022 |
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Yeah, she either isn't muscly enough or is too muscly or doesn't smile enough or is either too comedic or not comedic enough. She definitely should have been [whatever jacked lady I know about] instead of the actor they cast. Also the trailer is enough for us to figure out the show has too much and too little action. Might as well start shoveling dirt on this grave now.
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theironjef posted:Yeah, she either isn't muscly enough or is too muscly or doesn't smile enough or is either too comedic or not comedic enough. She definitely should have been [whatever jacked lady I know about] instead of the actor they cast. Also the trailer is enough for us to figure out the show has too much and too little action. Might as well start shoveling dirt on this grave now. Oh gently caress off with this bit in particular. You can't seriously be trying to equate people discussing wonky cg and disappointment in a character design (because let's be real with the level of cg overlay that's going on here "character design" is the appropriate term) with passive misogyny. I think Tatiana Maslany is great and the tone they're going for is the right one but She-Hulk The Character looks bad and I don't think I need to watch six episodes of a show to form that opinion.
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Blockhouse posted:Oh gently caress off with this bit in particular. You can't seriously be trying to equate people discussing wonky cg and disappointment in a character design (because let's be real with the level of cg overlay that's going on here "character design" is the appropriate term) with passive misogyny. I think Tatiana Maslany is great and the tone they're going for is the right one but She-Hulk The Character looks bad and I don't think I need to watch six episodes of a show to form that opinion. How about one? You know as well as anyone that CGI wasn't finished yet.
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theironjef posted:Yeah, she either isn't muscly enough or is too muscly or doesn't smile enough or is either too comedic or not comedic enough. She definitely should have been [whatever jacked lady I know about] instead of the actor they cast. Also the trailer is enough for us to figure out the show has too much and too little action. Might as well start shoveling dirt on this grave now. Her face looks wonky and she seems oddly tiny. This isn't some leak or Empire photoshoot where we can wait and see if it improves, this is the trailer they chose to put out
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theironjef posted:How about one? You know as well as anyone that CGI wasn't finished yet. You don't show unfinished special effects in a trailer, especially not for a show that's out in three months.
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May 18, 2022 22:17
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Fine you got me. Go ahead and get back to shoveling dirt on the corpse of this latest MCU fail.
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theironjef posted:Fine you got me. Go ahead and get back to shoveling dirt on the corpse of this latest MCU fail. The CGI looks weird, that's all anyone is saying. Have a snickers
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theironjef posted:Fine you got me. Go ahead and get back to shoveling dirt on the corpse of this latest MCU fail. my dude I don't think I've been widely negative about any MCU thing in this thread/forum basically ever so I don't know why you're singling me out here
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Blockhouse posted:my dude I don't think I've been widely negative about any MCU thing in this thread/forum basically ever so I don't know why you're singling me out here I wasn't, so I'm sorry it came off that way. I very rarely look to the left of the post box. Honestly, I'm sorry in general. I just came out of twitter with like seven thousand posts about how it should have been x bodybuilder with Maslany's face CGI'd on and how She-Hulk needs to be a fully jacked monster and I was disheartened to think I saw it here too. You folks are better than twitter in general, so yeah. My bad.
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