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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Rich people are like children with a lot of money and power.

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
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I don't think I've ever been to any kind of event involving gifts, where they weren't opened.

People want to see your reaction to their gifts.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

mandatory lesbian posted:

Id chuck a eric clapton guitar too, clapton sucks rear end

Surely throwing it out a window is merely a tribute to the original owner.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

It's kind of funny, I'm actually watching Breaking Bad for the very first time right now, and it's striking how absolutely loathsome Walt is very nearly from the word go. Sure, he has relatable moments every now and then, but even cutting him all the slack in the world for his cancer he's still an absolute egomaniac. It's wild to think that people were (or still are) actively celebrating and rooting for him. :psyduck:

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
Yeah. Much like the Sopranos, Breaking Bad is about a bad person who gets much worse, not about a good man who becomes bad.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

KozmoNaut posted:

I don't think I've ever been to any kind of event involving gifts, where they weren't opened.

People want to see your reaction to their gifts.

except for weddings. defo don't want to spend an hour watching them open gifts when we could be drinking/dancing

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

Perestroika posted:

It's kind of funny, I'm actually watching Breaking Bad for the very first time right now, and it's striking how absolutely loathsome Walt is very nearly from the word go. Sure, he has relatable moments every now and then, but even cutting him all the slack in the world for his cancer he's still an absolute egomaniac. It's wild to think that people were (or still are) actively celebrating and rooting for him. :psyduck:

in all the scenes where he's teaching he's just an absolute piece of poo poo to his students, wildly disrespectful, insults them to their face, and the only reason i can think anyone wouldn't immediately be disgusted by that behavior (and by how he treats jesse) is that they wish they could talk to their own kids like that

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Perestroika posted:

It's kind of funny, I'm actually watching Breaking Bad for the very first time right now, and it's striking how absolutely loathsome Walt is very nearly from the word go. Sure, he has relatable moments every now and then, but even cutting him all the slack in the world for his cancer he's still an absolute egomaniac. It's wild to think that people were (or still are) actively celebrating and rooting for him. :psyduck:


You want him to win because if he wins, his family wins. But after a while it becomes painfully clear that his goals aren’t about that any more.

Hes also a great character and really fun to watch. Cranston is a genius

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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CelticPredator posted:

You want him to win because if he wins, his family wins. But after a while it becomes painfully clear that his goals aren’t about that any more.

And one of the best moments in the show is when he has his moment of clarity and admits to Skylar that he was doing it all for himself.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

CelticPredator posted:

You want him to win because if he wins, his family wins. But after a while it becomes painfully clear that his goals aren’t about that any more.

Hes also a great character and really fun to watch. Cranston is a genius

Oh absolutely, he's wildly entertaining to watch, especially when he vacillates between awkward dumpy dad and wannabe criminal mastermind. But at very nearly every point of the story everybody else would be vastly better off if he'd just dropped dead.

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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moonmazed posted:

in all the scenes where he's teaching he's just an absolute piece of poo poo to his students, wildly disrespectful, insults them to their face, and the only reason i can think anyone wouldn't immediately be disgusted by that behavior (and by how he treats jesse) is that they wish they could talk to their own kids like that

Gilligan was talking in some interview how they had a scene in the finale where Walt runs into an old student of his and asks him what he took away from his class, and the student's reply is along the lines of, "I thought it was cool when you used powder to make the fire turn green." In however many years of teaching he's made no lasting impact.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Walter White is similar to Mama Rose from Gypsy. (watched it last weekend the last day it was on Netflix, the Imelda Staunton one). Both of them feel like they were left behind for reasons that were not their own fault (although in reality it's more likely narcissism/mental health issues), and in trying to push back, ruin their relationships with most of their families chasing a dragon while claiming that they are doing it for their offspring, having a revelation later on where they finally admit that they were doing it all for their own sake. The difference is that the realisation breaks Mama Rose while Gypsy takes pity on her and allows her to remain part of her life, while Walter White doubles down, terrifies his family and ends up completely abandoned.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
I've started better call saul, and I like it better, because at least two seasons in I find the central conflict between basically good Jimmy who bends the law to do the right thing and people who go by the book and use the law to be as cruel as possible more interesting

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It's also a lot lighter, it's a lot harder to watch Walter White constantly being awful and emotionally abusive to Skyler season after season than it is to watch Kim and Jimmy basically turn into (lategame comparison to another story) the MacBeths

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

Ambitious Spider posted:

I've started better call saul, and I like it better, because at least two seasons in I find the central conflict between basically good Jimmy who bends the law to do the right thing and people who go by the book and use the law to be as cruel as possible more interesting
I've also just started watching it and the theme it's pretty clear from the get go. It's actually spelled out loud by Mike in the episode where he escorts not-Colin Robinson to his drug deal and he literally says "being a criminal is just about breaking the law, it has nothing to do with being a good or a bad person. You can be a good thief or a bad cop".

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012

One thing that bugged me about the final episode was that a stray bullet killed him, not the cancer that was the driving force of his downward spiral since episode 1.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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grittyreboot posted:

One thing that bugged me about the final episode was that a stray bullet killed him, not the cancer that was the driving force of his downward spiral since episode 1.

I thought that was quite appropriate, actually. The cancer turned out to not be the driving force anyway - it was just his excuse to be his toxic self. He didn't stop making meth when his cancer went into remission, remember. So dying to the consequences of his actions that he could have walked away from has more meaning than him dying to the disease that he couldn't escape.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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Randalor posted:

The 4th season of Blackadder? It's set in the trenches of WW1, but for 5 1/2 episodes, it's "Blackadder tries to get away from the front lines" comedy and 1/2 episode of unfiltered despair.

No real combat is shown, and the one time the British won a battle, they won a piece of land large enough to fit onto the general's desk, at horrific costs of life.
Excellent example. Although I'd say there's a lot of despair sprinkled in up to that point.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

Rochallor posted:

Gilligan was talking in some interview how they had a scene in the finale where Walt runs into an old student of his and asks him what he took away from his class, and the student's reply is along the lines of, "I thought it was cool when you used powder to make the fire turn green." In however many years of teaching he's made no lasting impact.

That's just true to life. The few good teachers in my school days had zero impact on 90% of students.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I just finished the first series of Naruto so I'll be onto Shippuden later. It's kind of ridiculous that they don't follow up on Sasuke at all and just have the last third of the show be random adventures culminating with an (admittedly pretty badass) Gaara 5-parter.

By the time Sasuke finally comes back into things it'll be like "I was gone for years, why didn't you even try to find me?" "Oh to be honest, we kind of replaced you with Gaara, he's way cooler and has more fun adventures."

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That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

BioEnchanted posted:

I just finished the first series of Naruto so I'll be onto Shippuden later. It's kind of ridiculous that they don't follow up on Sasuke at all and just have the last third of the show be random adventures culminating with an (admittedly pretty badass) Gaara 5-parter.

By the time Sasuke finally comes back into things it'll be like "I was gone for years, why didn't you even try to find me?" "Oh to be honest, we kind of replaced you with Gaara, he's way cooler and has more fun adventures."
Mind you, I think S2 of the animated series is fully filler. I would suggest following a watchlist to trim the fat since there's already so much Naruto to watch :v:

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Rochallor posted:

Gilligan was talking in some interview how they had a scene in the finale where Walt runs into an old student of his and asks him what he took away from his class, and the student's reply is along the lines of, "I thought it was cool when you used powder to make the fire turn green." In however many years of teaching he's made no lasting impact.

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

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AceOfFlames posted:

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

It's true, your experience may not be universal.

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BioEnchanted posted:

I just finished the first series of Naruto so I'll be onto Shippuden later. It's kind of ridiculous that they don't follow up on Sasuke at all and just have the last third of the show be random adventures culminating with an (admittedly pretty badass) Gaara 5-parter.

By the time Sasuke finally comes back into things it'll be like "I was gone for years, why didn't you even try to find me?" "Oh to be honest, we kind of replaced you with Gaara, he's way cooler and has more fun adventures."

The manga basically goes right into the timeskip and because I guess the anime was in danger of catching up they just did like a straight two years of filler. So now that you've finished all of it I can tell you that every single one of those episodes could have been skipped with no trouble

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

AceOfFlames posted:

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

Your experience is not universal, I've had several extremely inspiring teachers.

And there are and always will be plenty of decent people who will actually do their best, no matter the circumstances. Same with nurses, social workers, all the people who actually make society work properly. Some people actually do give a poo poo and actually do give it their all

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



christmas boots posted:

The manga basically goes right into the timeskip and because I guess the anime was in danger of catching up they just did like a straight two years of filler. So now that you've finished all of it I can tell you that every single one of those episodes could have been skipped with no trouble

Speaking of Naruto and media that didn't age well, Shonen Jump's run of Naruto, where the physical graphic novels had greatly outpaced the magazine, so they jumped forward several volumes in the magazine, just to jump forward a few months later when they decided to "catch up" to the Japanese magazine's publication because Naruto was that popular in North America. I think they did a similar thing for One Piece, but it was less egregious because those were mostly short story arcs that didn't really add much to the overarching plot anyways.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Excellent example. Although I'd say there's a lot of despair sprinkled in up to that point.

I'm glad they didn't go for the everybody comically dead at the end option.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

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Yeah that's the problem with American Shonen Jump, it was a monthly mag but the popular stories were actually running weekly in Japan so they could never catch up except by devoting half their pages to the popular manga.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


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AceOfFlames posted:

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

I didn't have it happen, but I do know it happens.

And I feel like, if one of my school teachers came up to me and asked that question, I could at least bullshit something.

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AceOfFlames posted:

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

I can buy someone not having a Lifetime Movie Moment where a teacher changes their life forever but not having any recollection seems worrisome to me and my eidetic memory.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Cleretic posted:

I didn't have it happen, but I do know it happens.

And I feel like, if one of my school teachers came up to me and asked that question, I could at least bullshit something.

I mean chances are you probably have a few teachers who were decent to good if you can do things like read, write, and analyze. They might not of motivated you to your career or passion but they did teach you.

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Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

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BioEnchanted posted:

I just finished the first series of Naruto so I'll be onto Shippuden later. It's kind of ridiculous that they don't follow up on Sasuke at all and just have the last third of the show be random adventures culminating with an (admittedly pretty badass) Gaara 5-parter.

By the time Sasuke finally comes back into things it'll be like "I was gone for years, why didn't you even try to find me?" "Oh to be honest, we kind of replaced you with Gaara, he's way cooler and has more fun adventures."

That whole last third of the show is anime-only filler they made to let the manga get ahead. It uh, doesn't work and they end up having to do a ridiculous amount of filler during Shippuden anyway.

Living through that long stretch of filler as it was airing was utter hell. Just everyone getting more and more tired of it and screaming for the plot to pick back up again. :negative:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Vandar posted:

That whole last third of the show is anime-only filler they made to let the manga get ahead. It uh, doesn't work and they end up having to do a ridiculous amount of filler during Shippuden anyway.

Living through that long stretch of filler as it was airing was utter hell. Just everyone getting more and more tired of it and screaming for the plot to pick back up again. :negative:

At the very least I found the longer filler arcs interesting like the girl who had uncontrollably powerful genjutsu, so I didn't hate watching them.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

AceOfFlames posted:

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

I had a couple. One was a Special Education teacher to inspired me to switch from my dreams of becoming a history teacher to one for Special Education. She showed me some things that made some things I struggled with finally click. She encouraged me to tutor other students and I found that making things click for people makes me happy. I didn't end up quite on that path but I teach adults now. A history teachers got me an internship at an archive, and later when she realized I had a drinking problem, she got me an apprenticeship as a ship's carpenter. Another of my teachers was a lesbian who took a very confused young me and explained some concepts like bisexuality that let me understand who I was.

So yes. I had a few who left a positive impact on my life.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

Thomamelas posted:

A history teachers got me an internship at an archive, and later when she realized I had a drinking problem, she got me an apprenticeship as a ship's carpenter.


lol that's perfect

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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Mister Kingdom posted:

I'm glad they didn't go for the everybody comically dead at the end option.
You know the story about the ending? All the shots they made of people charging the guns came out like absolute crap, laughably bad. So, in desperation, they did a slo-mo of the bits that actually semi-worked, then the fade into poppies we all know and cry over.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

AceOfFlames posted:

I never understood the "one teacher who changed my life" thing. Do people actually go through this? I have zero recollection of any of my teachers, grade school, high school or university, except for some negative experiences with the latter. And given on how education is going down the toilet worldwide thanks to shortages and aggressive parents driving them further, that will just get worse.

I had many significant university courses that I regularly reflect on even now and that continue to offer me perspective in the present.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

BioEnchanted posted:

At the very least I found the longer filler arcs interesting like the girl who had uncontrollably powerful genjutsu, so I didn't hate watching them.

yea Naruto's one of those animes where it is 100% chock full of filler but there's like a good 50% of that filler that's actually kinda solid and fits the series and all so at least you can find a list of 'okay here's the episodes that suck and here's the ones that are legit' and still have a good bit of story.

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Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

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Thomamelas posted:

I had a couple. One was a Special Education teacher to inspired me to switch from my dreams of becoming a history teacher to one for Special Education. She showed me some things that made some things I struggled with finally click. She encouraged me to tutor other students and I found that making things click for people makes me happy. I didn't end up quite on that path but I teach adults now. A history teachers got me an internship at an archive, and later when she realized I had a drinking problem, she got me an apprenticeship as a ship's carpenter. Another of my teachers was a lesbian who took a very confused young me and explained some concepts like bisexuality that let me understand who I was.

So yes. I had a few who left a positive impact on my life.

Same here. I don't remember a lot of high school teachers, but I do remember one history teacher who wanted us to be able to understand the Why of history instead of just spitting back years and who was on what side in what war.

I remember a college professor who told me that getting a degree in marine biology while I had no plans to leave AZ was a waste of money, he also got me into SCUBA because we do have some lakes here, and Rocky Point isn't that far.

Another professor taught me inadvertently that it was totally possible to be accepting of LGBTQ people but hate the ones who didn't have the same religion regardless of their orientation. At least in his mind. It was a weird loving take.

For Walter White, I kinda wonder what his previous students who hated him, thought of him when the truth broke. Their weakass pissy chem teacher who left because he was sick, turns out to have been a loving druglord who blew up a nursing home? You can't tell me some of those kids weren't impressed.

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