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Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



You're not supposed to say the Ukraine either, it's just Ukraine.

The Ukraine implies that it should be part of Russia. :v:

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oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

Phenotype posted:

You're not supposed to say the Ukraine either, it's just Ukraine.

The Ukraine implies that it should be part of Russia. :v:

I don't think cartoon Chechen stereotypes are aware of that.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

emo-ignorance posted:

This interview is so loving good, particularly:

I have to say, in the first season, I didn't really like Sarah Goldberg's acting, but I think that's a testament to the character not having been super well-developed yet. She had a great moment in season 2 with that monologue, and in season 3 she has been throwing out banger moment after banger moment. I'll watch anything she does after this show.

I also like the part where she says Barry shouting at her wasn't hard to act, but the part after where she as a self aware actress had to play an ignorant abused going through the motions was

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

mcbexx posted:

Apparently it said "You are holding a bomb" in korean and once it was under the house and got bumped, it switched to japanese.

And we never saw the bomb. The whole time it's just a cardboard box with an automated voice sound effect.

PostNouveau posted:

I love how all the criminals on this show are not covering their tracks at all, and law enforcement is still absolutely no where near them. Janice was the only cop who was good at her job in all of Los Angeles.

I assume this is how real life is and if there was a gang war between two drug mafias the LA cops would be almost completely clueless. It's at least probably much closer to reality than something like Law & Order.

I hope the phone thing was just a throwaway gag and not an actual loose end that's going to implicate Barry. Even for a depressed hitman, that's terrible opsec not using a burner to take out the Bolivians. Those lemonade girls better keep their mouths shut too.

My prediction: Mom, the kid and/or Mr Madison try to get revenge but they don't know Barry has moved out of Sally's place. Since they're hopped up on wrath and adrenaline and they have zero gun training, Sally is almost killed but after they realize the error of their ways she learns they were gunning for Barry (and why). Sally is in shock and denial but gets in touch with Gene at some point and at from here my crystal ball gets hazy, but keep in mind the s3 finale is called "starting now", and Bill Hader described this season as "hosed". I think at least one character has had their plot armor revoked.

*storyline proceeds to do none of the above*

pnumoman
Sep 26, 2008

I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.
I only have one thing to say:

"Sweet."

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Not enough love for the mother and son discussing whether they should buy the gun to kill Barry, and then it cuts to the gun store clerk just staring at them the whole time not caring.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Cojawfee posted:

Not enough love for the mother and son discussing whether they should buy the gun to kill Barry, and then it cuts to the gun store clerk just staring at them the whole time not caring.

Yeah, it's not completely unexpected for them to think about doing that, but that cut to the owner looking over the counter having listened to the whole thing was yet another unexpected moment.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I recognized the lady who played the widow from Army of the Dead

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Phenotype posted:

You're not supposed to say the Ukraine either, it's just Ukraine.

The Ukraine implies that it should be part of Russia. :v:

I grew up saying The so that's just how it's stuck in my head by default, but how in the world does 'The' imply that?

MrMojok posted:

Yeah, it's not completely unexpected for them to think about doing that, but that cut to the owner looking over the counter having listened to the whole thing was yet another unexpected moment.

I've seen plenty of screwball comedies, but I can't really think of another show that is mostly serious and dramatic but will just go full cartoon mode for a gag and in-universe everybody just accepts it and doesn't even poke the 4th wall. This, the bomb app, the dogs :allears:

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Takes No Damage posted:

I grew up saying The so that's just how it's stuck in my head by default, but how in the world does 'The' imply that?

I've seen plenty of screwball comedies, but I can't really think of another show that is mostly serious and dramatic but will just go full cartoon mode for a gag and in-universe everybody just accepts it and doesn't even poke the 4th wall. This, the bomb app, the dogs :allears:

LOL, absolutely! And the entirety of ronny/lilly was just straight-up cartoon.

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."
I was relieved to see Gene decide to stop being afraid of Barry. There’s no doubt that Barry is a villain, but this episode brought him back to the likable side for me.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

ruddiger posted:

I recognized the lady who played the widow from Army of the Dead

Annabeth Gish. She was also in Midnight Mass, and completely misused in Sons of Anarchy (everyone was, gently caress that show).

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
The latest Ringer post-episode podcast has Bill Hader tell a super hosed up anecdote from his childhood in a way that could be a moment from the show and is probably an inciting incident for why the show does things like it does

https://www.theringer.com/2022/5/16/23074499/barry-season-3-episode-4-recap-with-bill-hader-prestige-tv-podcast

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

fez_machine posted:

The latest Ringer post-episode podcast has Bill Hader tell a super hosed up anecdote from his childhood in a way that could be a moment from the show and is probably an inciting incident for why the show does things like it does

https://www.theringer.com/2022/5/16/23074499/barry-season-3-episode-4-recap-with-bill-hader-prestige-tv-podcast

Can you describe it? That page wants me to use Spotify and that's not going to happen.

Omon Ra
Nov 1, 2020
peanus

Takes No Damage posted:

I grew up saying The so that's just how it's stuck in my head by default, but how in the world does 'The' imply that?
Because it's a sovereign country, not a region like the Midwest. You don't use the definite article for country names in English, it's not the United States of the America.

In Russian it works a bit differently, but same basic idea. "V Ukraini" and "na Ukraini" both mean "in (the) Ukraine", but the latter preposition implies non-sovereignity, so that's what Russian nationalists use to show that they see Ukraine as "little Russia" and not a real country.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

ruddiger posted:

I recognized the lady who played the widow from Army of the Dead

She was also in the X Files

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Can you describe it? That page wants me to use Spotify and that's not going to happen.

Hader says that the current plotline about the families of Barry's victims planning revenge was inspired by Hader seeing a father shoot his son's kidnapper and rapist during live tv coverage of the criminal's police escort.

Here's the apple link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barry-season-3-episode-4-recap-with-bill-hader/id1586390793?i=1000561520068

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 11:53 on May 17, 2022

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Omon Ra posted:

Because it's a sovereign country, not a region like the Midwest. You don't use the definite article for country names in English, it's not the United States of the America.

Counterpoint: the Netherlands and the Philippines.

Maybe the Republic of South Korea as well?

Edit: just to be clear, I say "Ukraine" and not "the Ukraine"

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Omon Ra posted:

Because it's a sovereign country, not a region like the Midwest. You don't use the definite article for country names in English, it's not the United States of the America.

In Russian it works a bit differently, but same basic idea. "V Ukraini" and "na Ukraini" both mean "in (the) Ukraine", but the latter preposition implies non-sovereignity, so that's what Russian nationalists use to show that they see Ukraine as "little Russia" and not a real country.

The Netherlands
The Congo
The Bahamas

English has no reason for anything. They used to be The because that’s what The Soviet Union called them and asked people to drop it to distance themselves, that’s it.

drunken officeparty fucked around with this message at 12:01 on May 17, 2022

Omon Ra
Nov 1, 2020
peanus

drunken officeparty posted:

English has no reason for anything.
Not just English, all languages have weird exceptions to general rules (and not for "no reason", you can usually look up the reason if you care to). Anyway, I don't want to get into a big etymology debate in the Barry thread, just wanted to clarify why "the Ukraine" might be seen as politically incorrect nowadays, even if it's not the intention.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
Holy poo poo, Sally giving the equivalent of an Academy Award speech because of a Metacritic score. I love this show.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

This was the first episode I enjoyed the entirety of. I much prefer the sillier side of the show. It wasn't working for me when it was so bleak the first three episodes.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer
I thought we were officially 'The USA' :sweatdrop: But anyway, it makes more sense that the 'The' might have a different significance in a different language.

drunken officeparty posted:

They used to be The because that’s what The Soviet Union called them and asked people to drop it to distance themselves, that’s it.



blue squares posted:

This was the first episode I enjoyed the entirety of. I much prefer the sillier side of the show. It wasn't working for me when it was so bleak the first three episodes.

I thought there was a fair amount of gags in the previous eps, just not one big overarching one like the app for this episode. There's no forgiving Jeff, Gene's gun falling apart, too many dogs etc. So Barry screamed at his gf and threatened to kill ONE kid. We've all been there...

Terra-da-loo!
Apr 6, 2008

Sufficiently kickass.
I find myself having to remind myself that NoHo Hank is dangerous and has ordered the deaths of many, cause he's such a fuckin sweetheart. Love him so much.

Such a good loving series, the way it so adeptly mixes its comedy and serious drama. Episode was hilarious, sad, and built some amazing tension going forward, what with the Fuches poo poo and all. Can only imagine that it's even further downhill, probably even faster, from here on (in terms of the narrative itself, I don't mean the quality of the show).

Excited for the rest if the season, both in a "yay" way and an "oh poo poo" way.

The very end gave me a little chuckle, too, simply because of how ubiquitous a handgun the Glock 19 is in the US--I didn't know until a few months ago and now I can't help but notice.

Edit: as far as the break-up goes, I understand where Sally was coming from, especially after her last abusive relationship leaving her feeling so impotent and such. The audience are fully aware of how violent Barry is--it isn't like Elsie Fisher's character whose name I've forgotten is wrong, she just doesn't know how right she is.

THAT SAID, his relationship with Sally was def one of the few things helping keep his poo poo duct taped together, and now it's all coming loose right around the same time. poo poo is definitely looking bad for Barry--break up is going to do a number on his emotional health, especially compounded with everything else and his former mentor recruiting new assassins to go after him.
Like I said, I def look forward to whatever's in store.

Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 17, 2022

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

Will this breakup be an impetus for Barry to look at himself and grow into the person he really wants to be; or is he somehow going to find out Katie told Sally to break up with him and go on the warpath?

On the one hand, I don't want anything bad to happen to Elsie Fisher, but I know which option leads to more explosively hosed up drama.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

fez_machine posted:

Hader says that the current plotline about the families of Barry's victims planning revenge was inspired by Hader seeing a father shoot his son's kidnapper and rapist during live tv coverage of the criminal's police escort.

Here's the apple link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barry-season-3-episode-4-recap-with-bill-hader/id1586390793?i=1000561520068

I'm guessing he's referring to this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauch%C3%A9

The videos on Youtube if you want to see an execution that looks like it's from a movie.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy
I was proud of the Bolivian crimelord for not getting hung up on the gender of Cristobal's lover :3: He didn't really care about that, just the fact that it was outside of wedlock with his daughter. A very progressive drug kingpin and murderer!

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

timp posted:

I was proud of the Bolivian crimelord for not getting hung up on the gender of Cristobal's lover :3: He didn't really care about that, just the fact that it was outside of wedlock with his daughter. A very progressive drug kingpin and murderer!

I remember thinking, the moment I saw that guy, 'oh, he's the guy that's on Jurassic Park for approx 1 minute'. He shows up in so many places.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Would love see Gene reach old heigths again only to ruin everything by falling back on old habits. Ideally after being cast as "Grandpa" on Joplin.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



oh jay posted:

Will this breakup be an impetus for Barry to look at himself and grow

does "grow" mean kill? and kill some more? if so, then yes - barry will "grow" quite a lot of human beings in the next 4 episodes

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Barry's relationship with Gene will be a stepping stone to actually accepting Sally's decision and he'll grow as a person just in time to see Sally accidentally gunned down by glock mom and glock son looking for revenge.

Then Gene gets accidentally killed by the acting student's dad.

Noho Hank and Cristobal retire and live a quiet life in the rural hills of Chechnya.

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

ruddiger posted:

Barry's relationship with Gene will be a stepping stone to actually accepting Sally's decision and he'll grow as a person just in time to see Sally accidentally gunned down by glock mom and glock son looking for revenge.

Then Gene gets accidentally killed by the acting student's dad.

Noho Hank and Cristobal retire and live a quiet life in the rural hills of Chechnya.

Somehow the police connect glock mom and son and Ryan's dad to the Chechens and are falsely assumed to have been in cahoots with Ryan and this was a revenge killing somehow. All 3 of them go down in history as criminal masterminds.

Meanwhile the police are continuing to search for the mastermind of the entire criminal organization, Kenneth "The Raven" Goulet.

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

limp_cheese posted:

Somehow the police connect glock mom and son and Ryan's dad to the Chechens and are falsely assumed to have been in cahoots with Ryan and this was a revenge killing somehow. All 3 of them go down in history as criminal masterminds.

Meanwhile the police are continuing to search for the mastermind of the entire criminal organization, Kenneth "The Raven" Goulet.

Which Kurosawa movie is this and how do you spell it?

MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

Can't wait to see how much every prediction from this thread doesn't become the least bit true.

Sokani
Jul 20, 2006



Bison

MokBa posted:

Can't wait to see how much every prediction from this thread doesn't become the least bit true.

Here's another one for you. Sally's show ruins Sam's life so he hires a hitman to go after her.

The hitman is Barry

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
Needing more inspiration for her show, Sally gets back together with Sam.

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
All the splitting apart gets undone when Sally, Barry and Cosineau get cast on the same show as regulars. Noho Hank and Cristobal are there as they start a catering company as a front. Fuches sulks in the shadows plotting against Barry. Hijinks ensue. Welcome to the New* Adventures of Barry!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Fuches keeps trying to sulk in the shadows, but just as he is about to do something, a PA notices him and gets him removed from the set and Barry never notices.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I am so loving relieved that Sally didn't lash out at the kid (.....yet :tinfoil:) and actually grasped how hosed up what Barry did was, how dangerous her own reaction to that was, and made the absolute right decision to dump his rear end. Hell yeah.

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Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(
What a great show. Love that they allowed themselves to go surreal with the bomb thing.

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