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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:i think if grades and stuff actually mattered for water and power (like in real life) it would be more interesting. also you would have a reason to have water towers to supply water for people up in the heights. needing pumping stations, transformers and poo poo would be more interesting PT6A posted:In terms of game design, it seems like everyone has a collection of things they really want to nerd out over, and others they want to ignore. The game should accommodate that by allowing the player to select the level of detail they want in each specific system. *harRRUMMmphrhgghrhghhhkkhkkhkk* Genuinely this is the sort of stuff I wanted from CS and while the interface and road sim is a lot less slick, you get a lot in return.
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Deathcare also sucks because you have to plop crematoriums everywhere. I mod it out because I find it distasteful
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Workers and resources is brutally micro intense and I say that as a fan.
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PT6A posted:In terms of game design, it seems like everyone has a collection of things they really want to nerd out over, and others they want to ignore. The game should accommodate that by allowing the player to select the level of detail they want in each specific system. Yeah, I fully admit that while I absolutely want the detail of having little wooden transmission poles on my streets, and the option to choose underground transmission for a more expensive but "aesthetically pleasing" option, other people might just want to tell the game "give my roads water and power and stop bothering me." That's cool too! Make the game support both so that I can be grognardy on my own time!
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Warmachine posted:Yeah, I fully admit that while I absolutely want the detail of having little wooden transmission poles on my streets, and the option to choose underground transmission for a more expensive but "aesthetically pleasing" option, other people might just want to tell the game "give my roads water and power and stop bothering me." Exactly. Look at MSFS for an example: it's a great example of an inherently non-competitive game albeit one that requires arbitrarily high amounts of skill in whatever area you choose. The design accommodates it very well, and I think it really represents the gold standard of a game where the goal is just to gently caress around and play against your own expectations or standards. You can either fly whatever you want with all assists and no damage and an AI co-pilot to handle the boring poo poo, or you can get absurdly deep into procedures and systems simulation, and both ways are completely valid and enjoyable ways of playing the game if that's what you want.
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PT6A posted:In terms of game design, it seems like everyone has a collection of things they really want to nerd out over, and others they want to ignore. The game should accommodate that by allowing the player to select the level of detail they want in each specific system. Unfortunately in reality this would just lead to a terrible game because when has a game that can't commit to a design decision ever ended well. (Also the scope creep would be absurd)
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I’d way rather they refine the existing systems that are the strength of the game than try to add a bunch of new systems. My wishlist for C:S2 would mostly be stuff like: -improved traffic AI to make better use of extra lanes and take longer routes when the shortest one is already clogged with traffic -better network connection features to make things like properly aligned slip lanes / highway exit lanes easy to do in vanilla without complex mods -more / better district themes and theme management support in the vanilla game -mixed use zoning
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Look I just want 3D Simcity 4 that doesn't run like poo poo is that so wrong
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May 18, 2022 13:39
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Eric the Mauve posted:3D Pick two.
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I already posted my manifesto about my wants but region play is top of the list. If C:S2 doesn't have that it is inherently inferior to SC4 and always will be. Especially since they'll probably stick to the agent system which keeps city sizes very limited.
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Workers and Resources shows you can actually just have entire game mechanics you can switch on and off depending on how detailed people want to get. There's an entire "cosmonaut mode" where you have to start from nearly nothing and can't instant-build or auto-stock any building, everything has to be micro'd and locally made. If you find the game's power system too fussy you can just turn it off. If you don't want to mess with dealing with vehicles needing re-fueling you can just turn that off. There's all sorts of stuff you can just turn off and the game doesn't really get messed up at all. I don't find the power line mechanics at all interesting so I just turn off power. I find setting up long cargo routes hard enough without having to take into account my trains also needing to drive to a refueling track now and again so i turn that off too. It's fun "manually" building some big projects but sometimes I just want that conveyor belt tower up and running right now to make sure a design works so it's nice to have an auto-build button. It's a shockingly accessible game for something with so much depth. I love the design philosophy and I'd love to see something like that in a new dream city builder. Either entire mechanics you could turn off, or have a sort of onion layer system where some of the most fiddly systems are almost optional. Things you can turn off and they still cost money but it becomes an abstracted budget item. "Water and Sewer" cost are simply listed and calculated based on your land area and population/consumption. But if you find laying pipes really interesting and want to dig into the game's surprisingly detailed system that actually takes slope and geography and pressure into account than go for it.
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Entropic posted:I’d way rather they refine the existing systems that are the strength of the game than try to add a bunch of new systems. I mostly want an economic model in which affordable housing is important.
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they should make the traffic ai worse, to be more realistic. also make them capable of causing traffic accidents that require emergency vehicle response and back up traffic until it has been cleared. and some of them will drive drunk. but really, i would also like more things on the "policy" side of the game that aren't so much set it and forget it.
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My dream is having a new map start by procedurally generating a medieval town or village and then accelerating through the ages to the present day, so you start off with trunk routes, old market squares, awkward streets and appropriately placed old buildings, and the districts of your city have historical meaning. I recognise I'm probably the only one though! (replace medieval for colonial for most of the market the game is aimed at I guess  )
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mrpwase posted:My dream is having a new map start by procedurally generating a medieval town or village and then accelerating through the ages to the present day, so you start off with trunk routes, old market squares, awkward streets and appropriately placed old buildings, and the districts of your city have historical meaning. I recognise I'm probably the only one though! Only if there's more than that as the start scenario option. I want my futuristic neo-communal solarpunk village to build into a planetary capital.
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I just want starting maps that give you something more than a highway system interchange to start from.
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Paradox where is my Crusader Kings/EU4/Vicky/HoI/Stellaris/Skylines crossover?!?!
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mrpwase posted:My dream is having a new map start by procedurally generating a medieval town or village and then accelerating through the ages to the present day, so you start off with trunk routes, old market squares, awkward streets and appropriately placed old buildings, and the districts of your city have historical meaning. I recognise I'm probably the only one though! That'd fuckin rule yeah The mechanics didn't grab me but that's another thing Workers and Resources also sorta did, you can start with a bunch of preindustrial towns with old timey layouts to modernize, and some limited technological progression from like 1950-1980 It's a lot harder to keep them than raze all the old stuff and start over with a more mechanically optimized design tho A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 19, 2022 |
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mrpwase posted:My dream is having a new map start by procedurally generating a medieval town or village and then accelerating through the ages to the present day, so you start off with trunk routes, old market squares, awkward streets and appropriately placed old buildings, and the districts of your city have historical meaning. I recognise I'm probably the only one though! Run an instance of Dwarf Fortress in the background, have it generate a world, then import that world for gameplay.
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Warmachine posted:Paradox where is my Crusader Kings/EU4/Vicky/HoI/Stellaris/Skylines crossover?!?! I'd play the poo poo out of Cities Stellaris
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Disaster: Your city is visited by a blorg party bus.
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dragonshardz posted:I'd play the poo poo out of Cities Stellaris I'll be honest, the notion of "Grand Strategy except you manage One City and the background simulation handles the geopolitics and you gotta deal with the fallout" has me mighty interested.
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Warmachine posted:I'll be honest, the notion of "Grand Strategy except you manage One City and the background simulation handles the geopolitics and you gotta deal with the fallout" has me mighty interested. it'd be indistinguishable from an RNG spitting random catastrophes at you so, how much did you like the Natural Disasters DLC and want more of that A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 19, 2022 |
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Warmachine posted:I'll be honest, the notion of "Grand Strategy except you manage One City and the background simulation handles the geopolitics and you gotta deal with the fallout" has me mighty interested. Isn't that basically just Tropico?
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Paradox is having a publisher sale on Steam this weekend if people are interested in picking up DLC on the cheap. I just bought most of the major DLC for 50% off.
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QuantaStarFire posted:Paradox is having a publisher sale on Steam this weekend if people are interested in picking up DLC on the cheap. I just bought most of the major DLC for 50% off. This is the one and only time anyone should buy paradox DLC. They go on sale so frequently and they're always so overpriced generally.
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mrpwase posted:My dream is having a new map start by procedurally generating a medieval town or village and then accelerating through the ages to the present day, so you start off with trunk routes, old market squares, awkward streets and appropriately placed old buildings, and the districts of your city have historical meaning. I recognise I'm probably the only one though! After watching donoteat01's Franklin videos, I long for a game to do exactly this.
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Do the parking spaces on the default streets do anything? Or is there no downside to using the streets with trees besides cost?
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aniviron posted:Do the parking spaces on the default streets do anything? Or is there no downside to using the streets with trees besides cost? Nothing. Despite parking being one of the biggest policies that impacts how cities look and evolve, the game treat it as purely decorative. If you're using traffic president you can turn on advanced parking AI though and then parking almost sort of pretends to matter!
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aniviron posted:Do the parking spaces on the default streets do anything? Or is there no downside to using the streets with trees besides cost? Unmodded, cims "try" to use parking spots, but if none are available they can magically put the car in their pocket. They can also take it out of their pocket somewhere else.
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Entropic posted:I just want starting maps that give you something more than a highway system interchange to start from. I want blank maps you can terraform, or a random map generator.
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VostokProgram posted:Unmodded, cims "try" to use parking spots, but if none are available they can magically put the car in their pocket. They can also take it out of their pocket somewhere else. They also don't have to use the same car they parked with. I once happened to see a cim pull up into a parking space, get out of their car, walk down the street a bit, then spawn an entirely new car out of thin air on the road next to them and go driving off somewhere.
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Entropic posted:
Frankly, even these two together is almost too much to ask.
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Someone help me figure out why I have a random building piling up garbage? Recycling center and two incineration plants very close, but each one only has like 3 trucks in use. Are those garbage processing facilities just in a bad spot with lovely road planning (possible, my traffic is at like 83% tops right now), or something else I did wrong? Also by the numbers my garbage processing capability far exceeds the production so that shouldn't be a big problem. Macichne Leainig fucked around with this message at 15:40 on May 25, 2022 |
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Probably a glitch with the building connecting to the road network. If you're not attached to it, just demolish and rezone the space
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Protocol7 posted:Someone help me figure out why I have a random building piling up garbage? Might be routing issues because of the cul de sac the building is on? I notice that the buildings in the other cul de sacs in that area are also darker than their neighbors, so they're likely having the same issue but it hasn't gotten as bad yet.
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Yeah I just ended up demolishing it and it's been fine since. Back to fighting the usual fickle city issues 
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That guy was going through some issues, and you just had your goons demolish his house while he was at work??
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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