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I get the complaint but tbh I liked all of the changed heroes more after their reworks ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 14:58 on May 9, 2022 |
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Yes - I just don't see how it made QM matchmaking worse, it seems like that should at the very least have helped with QM if you're mirroring a more granular selection of roles. But in reality the role rework didn't really do anything, they only did it because reddit whined about it for years and it was low effort.
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May 9, 2022 14:52
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ninjewtsu posted:I get the complaint but tbh I liked all of the changed heroes more after their reworks I miss some of the OG designs (especially Tassadar) but I also like the reworks. New Tassadar shoulda just been another seperate starcraft protoss hero
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May 9, 2022 14:56
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I think most of the reworks made the heroes more homogenous and made their kits more generally balanced instead of having one really strong thing. This legitimately has pros and cons but it's not what I find fun.
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May 9, 2022 15:00
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The real problem is that they never got creative with new heroes again after that, instead of getting creative and then wrangling it into the rough shape of a traditional hero The only rework change I particularly miss is assault strain after aba's mild rework. Having a talent that didn't directly rely on the level 1 talent for damage made shifting build into locusts later in the game more palatable, and the more I play the more I go "you know melee locusts with a cleave for wave clear instead of slow projectiles for structure siege actually sounds pretty good right about now" Minor grip compare to everyone who got their hero completely overhauled though
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May 9, 2022 15:01
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I like how Samuro is a melee assassin but the most useful thing he does is clear camps solo + macro play like abathur/LV in my experience
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May 9, 2022 15:06
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Rammstein when?
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May 11, 2022 09:43
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Just realised there's no Jaina skin for BfA-era Jaina, and that's criminal given how much better her BfA design is.
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May 13, 2022 02:42
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No Wave posted:I think most of the reworks made the heroes more homogenous and made their kits more generally balanced instead of having one really strong thing. This legitimately has pros and cons but it's not what I find fun. yeah, for better or for worse that's the direction HOTS has been going for quite a while. I wish they'd go back to HOTS being the quirky fun game instead of trying to ape other MOBAs. At least I got my.. er.. 6.5 year anniversary banner with the last patch 
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May 13, 2022 21:07
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I got both my 6th year and my 6.5th year anniversary banners the other day. No clue why, considering we're close to 7 years I thought?
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May 13, 2022 21:13
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I like how every time I come back to this, I'm really like 'Yeah, why did I quit' then I meet anyone playing an OW Hero competently, and remember. gently caress they're just horrible, each & every one in their own way. Especially to Casters or Melee.
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May 19, 2022 12:46
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Tracer is why I quit and Tracer is why I'm staying quit.
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May 19, 2022 15:12
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The last time I played Zarya felt fair enough, also translates surprisingly well m. It felt real good using her kit. I'm also biased toward Junkrat he is my special boy But I agree about Tracer and Genji, just the most annoying characters on the planet.
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May 19, 2022 15:35
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I've never felt like Tracer is especially unfun to play against, but I'm usually playing some fat gently caress with hard cc like Muradin so it's easy to stun her and set up a kill.
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May 19, 2022 16:25
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Tracer and genji (and the stealth heroes) do a great job of bringing that FPS sniper/spy class feeling into the game. You hate them whether they are on your team (poor damage output) OR the enemy team (obnoxious as gently caress)
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May 19, 2022 17:20
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I feel like adding characters that are deliberately designed to be as annoying as possible was a mistake
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May 20, 2022 02:53
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Kith posted:I feel like adding characters that are deliberately designed to be as annoying as possible was a mistake 100% agree, Murky has no place in the game.
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May 20, 2022 03:20
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If Tracer is bothering you go Valeera and they won't be able to play the game anymore. Go Genji and they'll kill themselves and their entire team by accidentally shooting you.
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May 20, 2022 03:22
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Kith posted:I feel like adding characters that are deliberately designed to be as annoying as possible was a mistake but murky is the greatest character in the game
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May 20, 2022 03:27
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Mind over Matter posted:100% agree, Murky has no place in the game.  for real though, the most memorable games of being completely and utterly destroyed have been by OWatch characters. mostly commonly Tracer but sometimes Genji. Zarya feels good, D'Va is alright. I never seen people play Mei or Ana in QM. in other news, last night I was demolished by an enemy Medivh. Well over 100K damage, never died once, MVP.  Looked him up and he was like level 50 with 2 games as Medivh. smurf account much? IDGI. cmdrk fucked around with this message at 03:38 on May 20, 2022 |
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May 20, 2022 03:33
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Murky is my friend and the only character I still play outside of ARAM. I love baiting opposing Butchers into ambushes.
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May 20, 2022 03:50
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Honestly the only OW character that annoys me any significant amount is Genji, and at least you have to be good with him to really turn him into a terror. Bad Genjis just die. I haven't played just a ton recently, but personally only a few characters bug me so much that I feel they're bad for the game, and some of those are only because I mostly play QM too. TB/Smash Varrain, Murky, Abathur, and Medivh. There is very little I dread more in HotS than getting Medivh on my team in QM.
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May 20, 2022 04:07
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Mei is fun to play and doesn't feel oppressive like some of the others. I thought they nerfed Genji into the ground, but that was admittedly a long time ago and before they started doing more frequent balance changes in maintenance mode. Is he more like release Genji these days? Can't say I've actually seen him in any QM games since I started playing again.
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Kalko posted:Mei is fun to play and doesn't feel oppressive like some of the others. I thought they nerfed Genji into the ground, but that was admittedly a long time ago and before they started doing more frequent balance changes in maintenance mode. Is he more like release Genji these days? Can't say I've actually seen him in any QM games since I started playing again. He's still good at securing kills and then escaping but the change to make healing wells invincible was a big hit to his popularity. Well sniping was one of the most bullshit things to deal with and it's good they made it impossible.
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May 20, 2022 04:22
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cmdrk posted:in other news, last night I was demolished by an enemy Medivh. Well over 100K damage, never died once, MVP. (It's literally all I spend my time doing with him) E: Also, my only issue is Zarya is her being a 'Support' so you end up endlessly in QM with 'no tank teams' except one side has Zarya. I've never seen the Zarya team lose in that circumstance.
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Whitemane is so fun with the autoattack/searing lash build. Amazing heals during teamfights, and you do those heals by damaging enemy heroes. I had a match where I healed triple the enemy team's healer, and I was only 3000 hero damage behind our fed Butcher. Any kind of slow or AoE stun makes her damaging ult loving amazing. Pop heals on everyone nearby (including you), activate your D skill for -25 armor on self and +25% spellpower, drop searing lash and your ult on a group of slowed/stunned enemy heroes. Suddenly everyone on your team has full health, you have full mana, and the enemy heroes are trying to limp away. BURN IN THE LIGHT  Without something to keep them there though, they can literally just walk away from that ult and whoops it did nothing!!
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Mind over Matter posted:100% agree, Murky has no place in the game. NoEyedSquareGuy posted:If Tracer is bothering you go Valeera and they won't be able to play the game anymore. Go Genji and they'll kill themselves and their entire team by accidentally shooting you. i don't recall the last time i played HOTS in a mode that wasn't ARAM tbh
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help i can't stop building Hundred Fists Kharazim Insight at level 1 Totem talent to taste with your team Blinding Speed The healing ult if you're good, the damage ult if you're bad 13 you take the counter to enemy comp or just quicksilver if you and your team are bad level 16: I AM MUSCLE WIZARD; I CAST UNLIMITED FIST ARTS it's not the most effective heal build; heck, it's not the best healing build on Kharazim but  does it feel good to dash to an enemy hero and DO MANY SLAPS (that also reduce my cooldowns, which includes an AoE heal)It makes the screen shake and you punch them a lot really fast. That means its really good! you can probably do it with other level 1 talents but insight lets you go ham and basically infinite fast-punch and dash, which is what makes it fun to do this build e: tool tip does not state this, but after you dash and trigger hundred fists, you can move and you will still trigger all 6 attacks. really good against a retreating hero that has no disable to drop on you. you dash and then walk with em while you spit out FISTS WITCHCRAFT fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Jun 1, 2022 06:36
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Game is a fuckin' wasteland for QM now. You're either in a stack rolling over pub teams, or being rolled, with occasionally your round being decided by which team got the Abathur
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Shockeh posted:Game is a fuckin' wasteland for QM now. You're either in a stack rolling over pub teams, or being rolled QM has always felt like this to me. They never managed to get a good matchmaking algorithm going for QM. Sometimes you stomp. Sometimes you get stomped. Sometimes, you have the superior team comp. Sometimes, your team comp is garbage. Sometimes, your team is skilled and works in sync while the enemy team runs in circles. Sometimes, your team runs in circles while the enemy team is skilled and in sync. Sometimes, your team has heroes that the enemy can't counter. Sometimes, the enemy team has heroes you can't counter. It is either a slog or a free win. Very rarely, you get an even match and its real good. Such is life...
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I think that's probably a compromise of letting players pick their hero before queuing up. Not only does the match making algorithm have to find equal players in terms of skill and whatever other variables it might use, but it also has to try to put together a somewhat balanced team (when 50% of players in a given mmr bracket has picked the same dogshit assassin probably). Maybe it could have been remedied by having a much larger player base, but I don't think hots was ever that popular?
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I haven’t really had that experience in QM. Of course you get stomps every once in a while but I get decent match quality 3/4 of the time doing it. The worst part of QM is getting Blackhearts Bay. Meanwhile I have been playing ranked and it has been alright. People tilt way harder but I haven’t had too many thrown games. My placement games put me in silver 3 and it feels like it will be impossible to climb out after about 50 games. It could be I’m placed where I should be, although 3 years ago I was Gold 2 and feel like I’m better at the game now than I was then.
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Jun 7, 2022 13:47
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Do they still charge $10 a character in a dead game?
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is $10 the same as 10,000 gold? if so then yeah. They basically wanted to prevent people from complaining there’s no new characters or maps, but they still do balance patches and I think there’s new cosmetics? I don’t really pay attention to that side tbh. Deathwing is still 15k gold like at release as well iirc, so they aren’t bothering to update those.
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SirSamVimes posted:but murky is the greatest character in the game
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Ort posted:I haven’t really had that experience in QM. Of course you get stomps every once in a while but I get decent match quality 3/4 of the time doing it. The worst part of QM is getting Blackhearts Bay. I’d like to play ranked games but I don’t want to wait 12 minutes to play a dead game with psychos.
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Rexicon1 posted:I’d like to play ranked games but I don’t want to wait 12 minutes to play a dead game with psychos. Having good match quality in QM made me avoid ranked for a long time, but I like the draft piece and feeling like I’m playing for some stake makes me more engaged.
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Kevin Bacon posted:Maybe it could have been remedied by having a much larger player base, but I don't think hots was ever that popular? i recall at the time blizzard killed the HOTS esports stuff it had like half the playerbase of DOTA, which on one hand is 50% of what one competitor had but on the other hand that's still a gently caress ton of players playercount dropped off a cliff once they killed the esports though
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Death to Esports
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I strongly suspect that the player count drop was more from the extreme slowing of support than it was from killing HGC. I can't prove that beyond a hunch, but it's certainly why I play much less these days.
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