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I just got insanely bored by the manga after a point. It had absolutely no teeth to it even in a fluffy/chill sense, it just kind of became white noise.
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Parallax posted:more like bum, which is what this looks like. rear end. bad, it looks bad. I don't have high hopes either. I think it's gonna be watchable but I am not expecting much beyond that. Would love to be wrong though!
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May 19, 2022 20:01
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I skipped to what were the newest shikimori chapters at the time a bit ago and it seems like it grows from basically being a twitter gimmick strip to something with actual character writing that seemed alright, though it's one of those shounen series where the premise just makes it lamer when it does gender norms stuff.
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May 19, 2022 20:09
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I feel like Love After World Domination does Shikimori’s primary gimmick way better.
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The Colonel posted:angst, drama, etc. are ftw I guess it's controversial if you get really steamed by socmedia interaction bait, but iunno why you'd choose to live that life.
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May 19, 2022 20:23
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“Nice guy” romcoms peaked with Toradora and have been futilely chasing that high ever since. Having either a true ensemble cast (Kaguya, Love Lab e.g.) or a premise and/or execution so outlandish and hewing towards comedy (100 GFs, also Kaguya) are the in-things these days. Also I guess a teasing/bullying premise is a thing people like now too.
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May 19, 2022 22:06
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Super Jay Mann posted:“Nice guy” romcoms peaked with Toradora and have been futilely chasing that high ever since. Having either a true ensemble cast (Kaguya, Love Lab e.g.) or a premise and/or execution so outlandish and hewing towards comedy (100 GFs, also Kaguya) are the in-things these days. Also I guess a teasing/bullying premise is a thing people like now too. Toradora also had the advantage over a lot of these in that it had an immediate hook for both the leads, rather than just for the girl. "He looks like a thug, but he's a good guy!" and "She's tiny and adorable... but also vicious and hard to get along with!" are a matched set for both comedy and drama at the most basic pitch stage, while a lot of other shows don't have a strong hook for the guy where you're describing the show. Miyuki Shirogane and Loid Forger from this season also have that instant description benefit. "Two geniuses acting like idiots in an attempt to make the other confess romantically" and "He's a spy, she's an assassin" make the guy sound like a character in his own right, not just a vehicle for audience projection, making the show feel much more secure in its own niche.
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May 19, 2022 22:53
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i dont think toradora is very comparable to these lightweight skit-based romcoms anyway, which is what all of this seasons ones are except maybe that cuckoos one i'm not familiar with
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May 19, 2022 23:08
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I wouldn't call Spy x Family a romcom, yes there are two adults who can conceivably be in a romance, but because the manga focuses on Anya so much they don't really get the time to be romantic outside of a few scenes..
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May 20, 2022 00:56
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This season also has Aharen-san wa Hakarenai in the "fluffy rom-com where nothing really happens, but it's kind of nice" category, and Aharen-san's two leads are both a lot funnier than either of these two. (Shikimori does have a way better supporting cast than Aharen-san does, though.) Honestly, my main complaint about Shikimori is that's it's mostly a repetition of Izumi-kun saying "Is it really okay for us to be dating given that you're so awesome and I'm so boring and needy?" and Shikimori saying "Yes, I'm totally cool with the fact that you bring absolutely nothing to this relationship." I can't help but compare it to Milo Murphy's Law, which is also about a young boy with preposterously bad luck, except that Milo's bad luck has made him resilient, plucky, and prepared for anything, whereas Izumi-kun is just cheerfully resigned to a life of daily random suffering. No, but seriously, why do they all have Vaseline rubbed over their irises?
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May 20, 2022 01:10
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I feel like claiming Izumi brings absolutely nothing to the relationship is a misreading directly addressed by the show. They all but turn to the camera and say directly to the viewer that relationships don't have to be exactly equivalent give and take to work. Not saying you can't dislike the show at all, but at least don't make things up.
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May 20, 2022 01:54
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Shikimori's crime is that it's just boring. They start the anime already dating and sure you can have an episode on how that happened, but literally nothing has progressed in half the season. There's no hook or edge to it other than "Isn't Shikimori just the most perfect girlfriend ever???" And she's fine but girl is nowhere near Marin Kitagawa for how fun or relatable she is. Like loving have her accidentally burn down his house, have him pick up an equally cute second girlfriend and have them be a thruple (okay Girlfriend/Girlfriend was terrible but the premise was funny). loving throw a pie in someone's face, anything to make it not just exactly the same as every other romcom I've watched in the past three years.
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May 20, 2022 01:57
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Take any tweet from MakeUpAGuy, make it a girl, and boom instant anime romcom.
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Natural 20 posted:Shikimori's crime is that it's just boring. agreed on everything here. shikimori is tedious. you have the entire experience of the show by the end of the first episode.
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chumbler posted:I feel like claiming Izumi brings absolutely nothing to the relationship is a misreading directly addressed by the show. They all but turn to the camera and say directly to the viewer that relationships don't have to be exactly equivalent give and take to work. Not saying you can't dislike the show at all, but at least don't make things up. I mean, they say that, but I don't feel like it lands very well.
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May 20, 2022 02:33
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Super Jay Mann posted:“Nice guy” romcoms peaked with Toradora and have been futilely chasing that high ever since. Having either a true ensemble cast (Kaguya, Love Lab e.g.) or a premise and/or execution so outlandish and hewing towards comedy (100 GFs, also Kaguya) are the in-things these days. Also I guess a teasing/bullying premise is a thing people like now too. I like Toradora and it’s very good but “My Love Story” is the pinnacle of the Nice Guy romcom.
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May 20, 2022 03:32
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I'm glad (maybe?) I'm not alone in not getting the hype about Shikimori (not necessarily in ADTRW). It's sweet and nice and all but there just doesn't seem to be much to it beyond that. If that's your thing, terrific, it just isn't mine.
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May 20, 2022 03:45
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the only thing that was good about the one episode of shikimori i watched was the kind of sleepy girl that bowled very slowly and got a strike
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm glad (maybe?) I'm not alone in not getting the hype about Shikimori (not necessarily in ADTRW). It's sweet and nice and all but there just doesn't seem to be much to it beyond that. If that's your thing, terrific, it just isn't mine. I think it's kinda supposed to be like animes like Blend S where the main reason to watch it is the one thing. I like Shikimori's expressions and that's good enough for me.
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May 20, 2022 03:59
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It also doesn't help that in addition to having some big sequels to compete with Shikamori really doesn't stand out among the new shows like Ya Boy Kongming and Shokei Shoujo
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm glad (maybe?) I'm not alone in not getting the hype about Shikimori (not necessarily in ADTRW). It's sweet and nice and all but there just doesn't seem to be much to it beyond that. If that's your thing, terrific, it just isn't mine. To contrast, the show could be one of the most hated shows of this year on MAL unless something REALLY shits the bed. And it's not just a, "meh not my thing", but an outright visceral seeming hatred ESPECIALLY for Izumi which is legitimately disturbing to read and see and not even barely hidden what it's about given the amount of "betacuck" comments and posts. At some point in the past few years, Fandom really HAS grown more toxic and it is kind of surreal to see in real time.
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May 20, 2022 06:27
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Who gives a poo poo what MAL idiots think.
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I don't think MAL even registers to Japanese production companies since it's an english language site. It'd be like trying to leave comments for Ikea furniture in Cantonese.
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doomrider7 posted:To contrast, the show could be one of the most hated shows of this year on MAL unless something REALLY shits the bed. And it's not just a, "meh not my thing", but an outright visceral seeming hatred ESPECIALLY for Izumi which is legitimately disturbing to read and see and not even barely hidden what it's about given the amount of "betacuck" comments and posts. At some point in the past few years, Fandom really HAS grown more toxic and it is kind of surreal to see in real time. Fandoms have always been toxic to a certain extent, it's just way more obvious now because of the way social media has clumped everyone together.
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Tales of Woe posted:i dont think toradora is very comparable to these lightweight skit-based romcoms anyway, which is what all of this seasons ones are except maybe that cuckoos one i'm not familiar with The cuckoo one is the subgenre of "girlfriend guessing anime", where the whole point of the series having the fans argue about which girl will win.
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chumbler posted:Who gives a poo poo what MAL idiots think.
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please do not think you have to focus your eyes, your attention or any span of your brain on these things. you can stop. it doesn't matter. you do not have to see it
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one of the most hated shows on mal: 7.02 average bro there are dozens of other shows with a lower average this season, including many shows beloved on this subforum
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Kwyndig posted:I don't think MAL even registers to Japanese production companies since it's an english language site. It'd be like trying to leave comments for Ikea furniture in Cantonese. Anime production committees are starting to take western views into account. It's still a secondary audience, but English speaking viewers can help tip the scales on if a manga gets adapted, or if an adaptation gets a sequel. Anime is cheap and manga's devouring the western comic market right now. Makes sense to get someone to put a finger on that particular pulse.
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Strange Quark posted:one of the most hated shows on mal: 7.02 average
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i assure you that none of those are looking to myanimelist as a resource for western opinionsIrony Be My Shield posted:Yeah the first episode twist of Shokei Shoujo certainly provoked some reactions lol i mean. the hosed up thing is those weren't the majority of the reactions. the actual majority mal reactions were much stupider than that. it was people mad about the idea of lesbian fetishization and insane stuff like that also not much of a "first episode twist" when it's what the basic description sold the story on
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Is there another site that does review aggregates of anime like MAL does? Because Hollywood ignored RottenTomatoes until suddenly they didn't, and the fanbase being incredibly lovely wasn't something they took notice of until "what if superhero but woman" got the reactionary nerds in a tizzy.
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i imagine the streaming services share or sell their viewership metrics as part of the licensing deals, so I don't really think MAL is ever going to be a metric companies need to worry about
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Valve Steam Deck posted:Is there another site that does review aggregates of anime like MAL does? Because Hollywood ignored RottenTomatoes until suddenly they didn't, and the fanbase being incredibly lovely wasn't something they took notice of until "what if superhero but woman" got the reactionary nerds in a tizzy. Anilist is a fairly big one too, even if it's not as big.
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Also nobody takes MAL scores too seriously, we are talking about the site where fandoms will review bomb other series doing better than their favorite shows and where one time a random youtuber got a campaign going that got ecchi comedy Interspecies Reviewers to the #2 rated anime of all time spot.
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I found the scores on MAL to be pretty good for the first couple years of its existence, then the scores inflated as the site got popular. like rotten tomatoes it's now only good at telling you what's really bad.
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Natural 20 posted:Shikimori's crime is that it's just boring. I saw a clip of Shikamori getting very flustered over how much she's attracted to her boyfriend's mum, who keeps accidentally (?) hitting on her and if I didn't know it wouldn't go anywhere it might have been enough of a hook to get me into the show. Villainess already showed that you can sucker a bunch of chumps like me into watching if you just make a big part of the premise that the heroine is bisexual. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 13:49 on May 20, 2022 |
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This is the first time anyone has made the show sound interesting lol
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mal scores are good at telling you what the sort of people who watch anime youtubers think is good and bad, that's about it
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think it's kinda supposed to be like animes like Blend S where the main reason to watch it is the one thing. I like Shikimori's expressions and that's good enough for me. Blend S, as an ensemble series, has more going on with it than Shikimori though so even if Maika's inability to not seem like a Sadist isn't that interesting, there's other characters with other traits to latch onto who get a decent amount of focus.
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