|
crispix posted:The talk that the shinners, Alliance and SDLP are using about people needing to do their jobs is really resonating even with people who vote DUP, though. Obstructing progress on sorting out the health service could really bite them in the rear end They are totally safe from repercussions until the next Stormont vote aren't they?
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 10:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 16:30 |
|
|
the fact that the DUP were instrumental to the brexit bill passing will never ever stop being funny
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 13:17
|
|
|
Lungboy posted:They are totally safe from repercussions until the next Stormont vote aren't they? if they really do refuse to nominate a deputy FM in the next ~7 months then there has to be another election
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 13:43
|
|
|
their election campaign was all about fixing the health service and tackling the cost of living and both issues need addressed urgently so they could end up pissing off a lot of those who voted for them last Thursday. Anyone for whom the protocol really is the top issue is likely to vote TUV now, so obstructing democracy is more likely to benefit jim allister than the DUP they've painted themselves into a very dangerous corner since 2016 and it really could all go very wrong for them 
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 13:49
|
|
|
they can't just cut the DUP out of the government entirely, right SF can't just say 'okay, if you don't want to support us, we're only coalescing with Alliance, UUP, and SDLP' without pissing off every unionist in NI, so the DUP has to begrudgingly accept the results and work under an SF First Minister or else they'll trigger another election, yes
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 16:55
|
|
|
the assembly can only operate if both of the largest parties from the nationalist and unionist sides (SF and DUP) nominate a first/deputy first minister if one party refuses to, then there can be no assembly crispix fucked around with this message at 17:19 on May 8, 2022 |
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 17:17
|
|
|
If Alliance were to become the second largest party could they ignore the DUP then, or is it still the case that there has to be one of each designation and if you don't wish to provide one then in practice you don't get to have a first minister?
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 17:19
|
|
|
yeah, you have to be one thing or t'other to qualify i don't think it was foreseen that Alliance would become such an electoral force - they used to reliably get about half a dozen seats in an assembly election and they've suddenly gone right up to third largest party with 17 seats - the same number as the UUP and SDLP combined crispix fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 8, 2022 |
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 17:24
|
|
|
Not quite as blatantly read as "vote terrorist" then as it would be now though.Guavanaut posted:If Alliance were to become the second largest party could they ignore the DUP then, or is it still the case that there has to be one of each designation and if you don't wish to provide one then in practice you don't get to have a first minister?
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 17:36
|
|
|
so alliance would have to be bigger than the combined number of seats from DUP, UUP and TUV to have the deputy first minister slot, right?
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 17:50
|
|
|
i say swears online posted:so alliance would have to be bigger than the combined number of seats from DUP, UUP and TUV to have the deputy first minister slot, right? Yeah, Unionists will be sitting on 37 seats (DUP 25, UUP 9, TUV 1 and 2 independent Unionists) while the combined Other block will be 18 (Alliance 17, PBP 1) so Other will remain only the third largest designation.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 17:58
|
|
|
Guavanaut posted:If Alliance were to become the second largest party could they ignore the DUP then, or is it still the case that there has to be one of each designation and if you don't wish to provide one then in practice you don't get to have a first minister? Not really. Alliance used to be soft unionist, almost like the UUP. Now they let individual candidates make their own decisions. Outside of independants and small socialist parties they are the closest thing to a nuetral party.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 18:13
|
|
|
Running the d'Hondt tombola that decides who's in the executive I make it 4 SF ministers (Including First Minister), 3 DUP (including deputy), 2 Alliance (including justice) and 1 UUP. Should also be pointed out in general that even if we change the rules solely around who gets to appoint deputy First Minister there is still the cross-community vote mechanism that kicks in on a couple of very important votes (election of the Speaker, election of the Justice Minister and probably most importantly budget votes). The way this rule is currently written these votes require either 50% of the whole chamber +50% of Nationalists +50% of Unionists or 60% of the whole chamber +at least 40% of the Nationalists and +40% of Unionists. So even if somehow the Other designation became the second largest designation the DUP, as long as they made up over 40% of the Unionist designation, could block all budgetary votes and stop the appointment of a speaker which, as the first item of business for the assembly, would stop anything from being able to proceed post-election. Again i'm imagining some significant structural reform, which Alliance have been pushing for tbh. Not everyone is gonna be happy to abandon the cross-community vote mechanism though as it was initially proposed as a firewall to stop a unionist majority steamrolling legislation through.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 18:20
|
|
|
First meeting of the Assembly postponed until Friday due to a one day strike by Assembly staff over a pay rise below inflation Seems pretty apt
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2022 12:50
|
|
|
(dont) start as you mean to (not) carry on, I suppose
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2022 12:57
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/Tracey_utv/status/1524070002495827969?t=LN9uGaP0jaI_ssYlLvK5AA&s=19 lol wee Jeffrey bottles it
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2022 19:29
|
|
|
I love the replies pointing out the DUP member celebrating the "new brand" of M&S right across the car park from... the other M&S? https://twitter.com/carlalockhart/status/1523952216691855361
|
|
#
?
May 11, 2022 01:26
|
|
|
Arquinsiel posted:I love the replies pointing out the DUP member celebrating the "new brand" of M&S right across the car park from... the other M&S? https://twitter.com/carlalockhart/status/1523952216691855361 thats profoundly cucked even for the DUP
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2022 02:37
|
|
|
Putting it in the dying outlet mall that everyone in the Republic remembers being good ten years ago is just 
|
|
#
?
May 12, 2022 02:58
|
|
|
Sorry to hear about your economy guys https://twitter.com/namabamapa/status/1526953595748458496
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2022 21:21
|
|
|
I feel like there's some rents in London that are throwing things off, because I'm paying gently caress all here compared to home.
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2022 21:47
|
|
|
keep punching joe posted:Sorry to hear about your economy guys Mr CIA Landlord telling it like it is tbh. I'm lucky enough to have a house and a mortgage in Dublin, but have plenty of mates paying double my mortgage in rent for fairly tiny places and it's no craic
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2022 22:08
|
|
|
The amount of people I know buying houses in Navan makes me really happy to have had to leave. Could you imagine it? Navan. *shudder*
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2022 23:48
|
|
|
Arquinsiel posted:The amount of people I know buying houses in Navan makes me really happy to have had to leave. Could you imagine it? Navan. If you've spent your whole life in the city, moving to a small rural town is an awful idea 99% of the time. I understand the impulse, but people really don't appreciate how isolating and different the bogger life is, they'd be much better off emigrating, though obviously people are often tied to their jobs. On an only slightly related note, everyone should check out An Cailín Ciúin for a very lovely movie, as Gaeilge
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 08:12
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you've spent your whole life in the city, moving to a small rural town is an awful idea 99% of the time. I understand the impulse, but people really don't appreciate how isolating and different the bogger life is, they'd be much better off emigrating, though obviously people are often tied to their jobs. Navan isn't really a small rural town any more but as someone who has moved to a small rural town from Dublin I think it depends on your age and where you are in life. I am happy having done it. I'd say it'd suck for younger folk though.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 08:19
|
|
|
lemonadesweetheart posted:Navan isn't really a small rural town any more but as someone who has moved to a small rural town from Dublin I think it depends on your age and where you are in life. I am happy having done it. I'd say it'd suck for younger folk though. Yeah YMMV obviously, but if you want to have "the craic" your options are severely limited
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 08:23
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you've spent your whole life in the city, moving to a small rural town is an awful idea 99% of the time. I understand the impulse, but people really don't appreciate how isolating and different the bogger life is, they'd be much better off emigrating, though obviously people are often tied to their jobs. Yeah my parents loved having us part time in a tiny sub-100 people village in Wexford and didn't understand why I found it completely isolating and depressing. If I did it now in my 30's I'd basically become a shut in and order groceries to the house.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 14:26
|
|
|
My father grew up in a fairly big village, and going by what I have heard over the years from family still living there, everyone knows and gossips constantly about everyone else. There is no privacy, no anonymity. If you don't have any gossip-worthy habits, they'll just assign you random ones. I'd go mad in a month if I had to live there.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 14:34
|
|
|
Shoehead posted:Yeah my parents loved having us part time in a tiny sub-100 people village in Wexford and didn't understand why I found it completely isolating and depressing. If I did it now in my 30's I'd basically become a shut in and order groceries to the house. I've been like this for years, so moving out of London to the Kildare countryside, 10 mins drive from the nearest shops, has been incredible for me.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 14:35
|
|
|
Pookah posted:My father grew up in a fairly big village, and going by what I have heard over the years from family still living there, everyone knows and gossips constantly about everyone else. There is no privacy, no anonymity. If you don't have any gossip-worthy habits, they'll just assign you random ones. As a queer metal head I found it insufferable, that was TOO WEIRD
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 14:45
|
|
|
Pookah posted:My father grew up in a fairly big village, and going by what I have heard over the years from family still living there, everyone knows and gossips constantly about everyone else. There is no privacy, no anonymity. If you don't have any gossip-worthy habits, they'll just assign you random ones. Thats my family and myself growing up, there was the 'old biddy' network that would gather on pension day and at the bingo. And hence why Im slap dash in a city on the opposite side of the island now. Rather have city life, just for the shop convenience really. gently caress fancying a pizza and theres none in 10 mile around you.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 14:48
|
|
|
Shoehead posted:As a queer metal head I found it insufferable, that was TOO WEIRD And I'm guessing decent Internet access was either not there at all or really patchy, so no escape into more welcoming online spaces  ^^^ All through my childhood, my da talked about moving back there and thank feck my mother was having none of it^^^ Pookah fucked around with this message at 17:46 on May 19, 2022 |
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 14:49
|
|
|
I used to spend what felt like eternally long summers not in Ballybunion, but several miles outside of it down a lovely road. Never again.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 15:10
|
|
|
Irish rural life is for people who make money off the land. Farmers, landlords the families thereof. No one else is required. Countryside lifestyle is poxy and completely reliant on cars.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2022 16:33
|
|
|
I've not been on r/ireland in a while but when did it turn into stormfront. Some article was posted about refugees complaining about the double standards applied to Ukranians, and the thread consensus is 'of course it's only natural we extend assistance to people who share our white-European, Christian, liberal democratic values.'
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2022 15:18
|
|
|
This is the substance of liberal consensus building laid bare.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2022 15:24
|
|
|
Marenghi posted:I've not been on r/ireland in a while but when did it turn into stormfront. Some article was posted about refugees complaining about the double standards applied to Ukranians, and the thread consensus is 'of course it's only natural we extend assistance to people who share our white-European, Christian, liberal democratic values.' I don't think "it's only natural" but it is understandable in the sense that if your cultural and ethnic neighbours experience something it's easier to identify with their suffering. There's a reason people have been campaigning for more representation of all cultures in the media, and it's exactly this. Any view that's narrow only reinforces close ties and doesn't expand them out to include the diversity of humanity. This is especially an issue for Ireland for the past thirty years where we've gone from being a broke backwater to a country with some amount of wealth and power, and with people living here from a broad cross-section of humanity.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2022 15:32
|
|
|
Marenghi posted:I've not been on r/ireland in a while but when did it turn into stormfront. Some article was posted about refugees complaining about the double standards applied to Ukranians, and the thread consensus is 'of course it's only natural we extend assistance to people who share our white-European, Christian, liberal democratic values.' That, unfortunately, is a very common sentiment. There was a whole twitter thread of news reporters doing that on camera.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2022 15:41
|
|
|
Marenghi posted:I've not been on r/ireland in a while but when did it turn into stormfront. Some article was posted about refugees complaining about the double standards applied to Ukranians, and the thread consensus is 'of course it's only natural we extend assistance to people who share our white-European, Christian, liberal democratic values.'
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2022 16:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 16:30 |
|
|
Irish twitter is only mildly better
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2022 18:30
|
|