Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

The Titanic posted:

Speaking of drop ships, I recall Rexzilla posted about sc again.

Now we seem to be gearing back up for more of this tactical troop type stuff that Rexzilla was all into.

Are we looking at a relaunch of Theaters of War and a return of Rexzilla to hype sc again for another year of totally normal and fluid content that will stop in exactly one year from when it began?

Will they go for a longer contract?

I doubt we ever see theatres again. Crobear didn�t even mention it once in his 10 page plea to the backers

Or maybe he did but I don�t know if anyone can be assed to read the entirety of it

# ? May 20, 2022 15:41

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# ? May 31, 2024 08:04

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Bootcha posted:

And the reason they're doing it NOW is because I'm pretty sure Matt Sherman doesn't work at CIG anymore so no one remembers why they weren't working on ship to ship boarding.

Right so basically , it�s not working and will never work

We will sell a ship telling you it�s working , but only if everything is absolutely stock still

Do they really expect players will just be like. Yep I�m gonna get boarded. Better power everything down and take my hands off the flight controls. It�s the noble thing to do

Unless part of their �hacking� just means it completely powers down the ship and turns it into a static prop

Hmmmmm

# ? May 20, 2022 15:43

4th Stimpire Queen: May 4, 2022; Contemplate with nice thoughts and utterances.

Blue On Blue posted:

Do they really expect players will just be like. Yep I�m gonna get boarded. Better power everything down and take my hands off the flight controls. It�s the noble thing to do

Unless part of their �hacking� just means it completely powers down the ship and turns it into a static prop

I'm more interested in the whole concept tbh.

Like, how is this dropship supposed to stop and hold a ship? It has no tractor beam, not enough weapons to damage subsystems or something like that.

Also, it has no stealth so how is it supposed to even get close?

Also, the whole docking thing is cool to look at but it's a single entry point in the ship soooooo...anyone who has played an fps knows that defenders will just camp the spot/ spam grenades etc and your cool assault force will die in seconds.

# ? May 20, 2022 15:48

Dwesa: Jul 19, 2016; Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

You put more thought into it than CIG did. Their marketing concluded that people might want boarding ship, they have nothing except for concept art, but they sell it anyway. Backers buy it. That's it.

# ? May 20, 2022 16:08

JugbandDude: Jul 19, 2016; Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun

Shine on you crazy diamond!

The Titanic posted:

I still enjoy how the most star citizens official videos can provide is slow passes of ships, or people walking or sitting somewhere doing an emote.

A decade in and gameplay itself is still so shoddy and broken that getting any clips of it would totally ruin the pretend atmosphere they are trying so hard to project.

Even these highly curated videos are still janky af.

Look at the first few seconds as the Legionnaire is approaching the Carrack, why is the camera bobbing?

We all know the answer.

# ? May 20, 2022 16:23

Zero_Grade: Mar 18, 2004; Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

That Legionnaire ship looks like rear end and is maybe the dumbest concept they've come up with yet. Wait no, the tank is still dumber.

4th Stimpire Queen posted:

There's a real chance that SC might just stand as a freakish anomaly on the landscape for quite some time

but not for the reasons they suspect

FishMcCool posted:

How else would you deliver fresh bartender AI to the frontline?

OK, I'll admit that the concept of tactical insertion drop bartenders got a laugh out of me. Stern-faced dudes in suits blasting out of orbit to deliver a precision hairy roberts to critical areas of the battle.

# ? May 20, 2022 17:02

marumaru: May 20, 2013

the legionnaire looks really bad and the breaching docking port or whatever looks like the expand dong meme

# ? May 20, 2022 17:08

Incitatus: Dec 16, 2005; The Meat Man was out of wings, Mr. William Ash More!

Zero_Grade posted:

Stern-faced dudes in suits blasting out of orbit to deliver a precision hairy roberts to critical areas of the battle.

The ship's entry had been tumultuous. The bartenders were clearly shaken, yet not a single body stirred.

# ? May 20, 2022 17:09

no_recall: Aug 17, 2015; Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yXQdHzTj4

# ? May 20, 2022 17:35

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

Star Citizen: United in Purchase

# ? May 20, 2022 17:39

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Invictus is my favourite Star Citizen holiday because it's the one time of year where I can buy ships on sale!

# ? May 20, 2022 17:42

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Blue On Blue posted:

I doubt we ever see theatres again. Crobear didn�t even mention it once in his 10 page plea to the backers

Or maybe he did but I don�t know if anyone can be assed to read the entirety of it

They never talked about it before it suddenly appeared either.

Remember that cig has nearly 800 people and growing. At least 25 of them are hard at work on star citizen.

That leaves a lot left to work on other mystery projects like maybe river tech or marketing strategy.

# ? May 20, 2022 18:05

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

4th Stimpire Queen posted:

I'm more interested in the whole concept tbh.

Like, how is this dropship supposed to stop and hold a ship? It has no tractor beam, not enough weapons to damage subsystems or something like that.

Also, it has no stealth so how is it supposed to even get close?

Also, the whole docking thing is cool to look at but it's a single entry point in the ship soooooo...anyone who has played an fps knows that defenders will just camp the spot/ spam grenades etc and your cool assault force will die in seconds.

Look at how cute you are talking about actual gameplay.

Do you not realize dreams? The boarding, the lights flickering, the fires, the guns firing into the smoke over alarms klaxoning and flashing. Suddenly, gravity is lost in both ships as a near miss from a powerful weapon from a nearby idris piloted by DuckMySick666 misses both ships and hits another attacking freighter!

Oh my gosh the action and drama that will be had!!! I almost can't contain myself and am buying a package now to live this moment!!! :homebrew:

# ? May 20, 2022 18:10

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

no_recall posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yXQdHzTj4

that intro immediately made me think of this:

https://youtu.be/8ZZ2NLEIEDI

Hit that nostalgia.

# ? May 20, 2022 18:13

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

no_recall posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yXQdHzTj4

Just to quote it again but this is lovely because when you ask the question:

So if out of 800-ish people, and you have 25 of them working on a game... what are a lot of the others doing?

And this is your answer. Movie cinematics and art! Yay! Question answered!

Chances are they are also making this kind of stuff for other movies as well and... the backers will never know wink wink nudge nudge.

# ? May 20, 2022 18:16

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

I can't even imagine what star citizen could actually be if Chris valued programmers as much as he values artists, and if the company valued making a product as much as they did about making it look like they have a product.

By now you might actually have something that has almost as much functionality as X4 and actually is mostly bug free and working. :shrug:

# ? May 20, 2022 18:20

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://twitter.com/Roball_TV/status/1527241732827533312
https://twitter.com/listening2day/status/1527321092750049283

# ? May 20, 2022 18:23

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

CIG selling a broken and hacked to pieces Cryengine mod to EA or CDPR is maybe my favourite backer delusion.

# ? May 20, 2022 18:26

4th Stimpire Queen: May 4, 2022; Contemplate with nice thoughts and utterances.

The Titanic posted:

So if out of 800-ish people, and you have 25 of them working on a game... what are a lot of the others doing?

And this is your answer. Movie cinematics and art! Yay! Question answered!

I love how CR said they'd not show gameplay cause "this would pull valuable resources away from our game development teams that are working hard" while gently caress knows how many people are working on movies and art to milk whales.

Totally makes sense, for someone making a game.

# ? May 20, 2022 18:44

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

That Coffee Cup in the Forest... posted:

With the most recent Letter from the Chairman, Chris was able to confirm that the "Coffee Cup in the Forest" dream is still alive... meaning that, with the level of persistence they will have, simply leaving a coffee cup out in the wilderness will be there for all to see, until someone else comes to pick it up... or nature takes its course, etc.

In that sense, we can assume it will eventually be "recaptured by time" and just removed from the server (and when there are no players in proximity.) Similarly "AI Janitors" might clean up populated areas more regularly to help with the problem of "trash" accumulation, but this can be done with players in proximity.

With replication, we know that eventually that coffee cup will be replicated to that same spot on the forest floor on all servers... effectively when "no one is looking". In most cases with the technology they're developing, the game world is so large that this replication will be near-instant. But in populated areas... lets say the TDD, where it might be several minutes or longer before a player is out of proximity, could that cause any problems? Or are there any exploits that could be taken advantage of by this? Knowing that something can't be replicated to the same spot on all servers?

I don't know, and I don't think this has been done in this way anywhere before, so just sort of a fun theory crafting session... how should these edge cases be handled gracefully?

# ? May 20, 2022 18:46

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Fidelitious posted:

As far as I can tell, Persistent Entity Streaming just means that you save dropped items to a database that can be indexed by location so that you can load those items back when someone else shows up.

I can see why it's important for them in terms of the same stuff showing up across servers, although I assume this isn't their solution for "firing lasers across server boundaries". But this isn't exactly ground-breaking stuff so I'm not really sure what everyone's so excited about.

Yes.

It's exciting because it has a snazzy CI�G-hype term invented by CRobber himself, as opposed to some silly mundane description like the ones everyone else use for the same thing.

# ? May 20, 2022 18:47

NumptyScrub: Aug 22, 2004; damn it I think the mirrors broken >˙.(

Ok, installed SC for the free fly and so far I can confirm they have not fixed the performance issues lol. Running at 4k with the options all turned up I can get:

Elden Ring: pinned at 60fps and between 5-15% CPU utilisation
Cyberpunk 2077: 50-70fps and sits between 20-30% CPU

Store Citizer: 30-45fps (with stuttering) and CPU goes from 30-80% in spikes

Also holy lol I tabbed out after looking around the room to type this and when I tabbed back in, I had fallen through the floor and I'm stuck in geometry under the map :ughh:

What was the suicide key combo again?

# ? May 20, 2022 19:19

marumaru: May 20, 2013

time to install an ssd, commander

# ? May 20, 2022 19:22

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

NumptyScrub posted:

What was the suicide key combo again?

Ctrl-Shift-Meta-⌘-F14

# ? May 20, 2022 19:22

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

marumaru posted:

time to install an optane, commander

# ? May 20, 2022 19:22

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

NumptyScrub posted:

Ok, installed SC for the free fly and so far I can confirm they have not fixed the performance issues lol. Running at 4k with the options all turned up I can get:

Elden Ring: pinned at 60fps and between 5-15% CPU utilisation
Cyberpunk 2077: 50-70fps and sits between 20-30% CPU

Store Citizer: 30-45fps (with stuttering) and CPU goes from 30-80% in spikes

Also holy lol I tabbed out after looking around the room to type this and when I tabbed back in, I had fallen through the floor and I'm stuck in geometry under the map

What was the suicide key combo again?

Alt-f4

# ? May 20, 2022 19:23

NumptyScrub: Aug 22, 2004; damn it I think the mirrors broken >˙.(

It's fine, I 30k'd a minute after I posted that :suicide:

marumaru posted:

time to install an ssd, commander

Good point, maybe my PCIe 4 M.2 isn't quick enough to handle Cryengine games :cry:

# ? May 20, 2022 19:28

4th Stimpire Queen: May 4, 2022; Contemplate with nice thoughts and utterances.

NumptyScrub posted:

Ok, installed SC for the free fly and so far I can confirm they have not fixed the performance issues lol. Running at 4k with the options all turned up I can get:

Elden Ring: pinned at 60fps and between 5-15% CPU utilisation
Cyberpunk 2077: 50-70fps and sits between 20-30% CPU

Store Citizer: 30-45fps (with stuttering) and CPU goes from 30-80% in spikes

Also holy lol I tabbed out after looking around the room to type this and when I tabbed back in, I had fallen through the floor and I'm stuck in geometry under the map

What was the suicide key combo again?

Thank you for your sacrifice.

# ? May 20, 2022 19:30

.random: May 7, 2007

Is there a term yet for the long-lasting impact installing Stair Cottongin has on your computer, even after attempting to uninstall? Maybe �the long star citizen�?

# ? May 20, 2022 19:33

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Prop Wash posted:

I can�t wait to see the high-performance jump seats.

Tippis posted:

They're like regular jump seats, but with a red stripe and an embroidered TURBO logo.

# ? May 20, 2022 20:07

Kavros: May 18, 2011; sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep

just a reminder that star citizen converts MORE of the graphical processing work to CPU if you lower your graphical quality settings, and bottlenecks harder. so if you're having performance issues the first advice is to set graphics settings to highest

I'm on a 3070ti with a whatever the quality equivalent cpu is and all the every rams or whatever, and on star citizen my average fps is somewhere in the 20s if i do none of the things that are recommended for fps improvement, which largely boil down to "leave capped servers and pick whichever server region has nearly nobody on it because the time zone is like 4am there" and "go places nobody else is ever" and "never enter cities" and "never go on planets" and "never install the game"

# ? May 20, 2022 20:07

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Did you increase your page file?

# ? May 20, 2022 20:16

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Wing commander was released in September 1990. Microsoft bought Digital Anvil in December 2000 (and kicked Chris into an "original concept" role). If Wing Commander took around a year or so of development (as games tended to do in those old times) then soon enough Chris will have spent more time "developing" SC than all the time he spent in the Wing Commander series.

And has made much more money doing so.

# ? May 20, 2022 20:19

NumptyScrub: Aug 22, 2004; damn it I think the mirrors broken >˙.(

.random posted:

Is there a term yet for the long-lasting impact installing Stair Cottongin has on your computer, even after attempting to uninstall? Maybe �the long star citizen�?

NGL after trying it in 2019 I "uninstalled", deleted all the directories manually, then a few months later decided I may as well reformat and start from scratch. Not because of SC directly, but definitely informed by previously having SC installed (the other piece was a couple of botched gamepass installs stealing a half TB of unusable space)

Just did a beer run so I have something to do while waiting for clipping / 30k's to resolve :v:

# ? May 20, 2022 20:21

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

trucutru posted:

That's clearly pre-alpha concept art. The TURBO doesn't stand out unless you run at 8k because of the intricacies of the fabric and thread simulation. :colbert:

# ? May 20, 2022 20:36

marumaru: May 20, 2013

trucutru posted:

citizen in the franxx

# ? May 20, 2022 20:59

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

NumptyScrub posted:

It's fine, I 30k'd a minute after I posted that

So... pretty sure they defeated that 30K error.

That was the milestone in chris' missive that was the major time where SC started to be real I thought.

:thunkher:

# ? May 20, 2022 21:17

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

4th Stimpire Queen posted:

Thank you for your sacrifice.

# ? May 20, 2022 21:17

NumptyScrub: Aug 22, 2004; damn it I think the mirrors broken >˙.(

marumaru posted:

(van)duuling in the franxx

# ? May 20, 2022 21:42

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# ? May 31, 2024 08:04

NumptyScrub: Aug 22, 2004; damn it I think the mirrors broken >˙.(

The 30k is real and terrible and is not my friend :suicide:

Finally got to the show after 3 deaths (one avoidable) and tooled about in the display Carrack for a bit

Got the prompt to rent one and it was zero aUEC?!?!?!

I pressed that Rent button with mucho gusto and guess what...

Managed to successfully rent 2 of the 5(6?) ships on display, now I need to spend the 30+ minutes finding the spaceport, finding the spawn console, spawning a ship, finding the hanger, failing to take off in time and getting blown up, spawning the second ship, finding that hangar and maybe getting into spess? :confuoot:

# ? May 20, 2022 21:51

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