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Darko
Dec 23, 2004

MrMojok posted:

So basically you’d buy like $20k in chips, go eat, go screw around for a while, then cash them out and it’s tracked then… so it looks like $20k in gambling winnings, and therefore legit income? And you actually haven’t gambled at all?

You can't do that if you're suspected because then youll get followed to see what youre doing, then you'd have to sit at the tables and play for a while, but yeah, casinos are huge money laundering places for people that are patient. Sitting around in a poker room at the $50/$100 tables and looking like an active player (while taking breaks and playing other tables) will move so much it becomes very hard to track as long as you're not going over certain limits. But you want to cash out over 10k because then it's tracked and looks legit.

Not that I'd know anything about this nor am I giving advice.

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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
I'm no pro about money laundering or casinos, but how many people who play for big money like that come in with cash? Something in my brain imagines that people who are playing with >$10k at a time don't just walk in with a stack of c-notes and stand in the same cashier line as everybody else.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Well of course we are only talking about doing this… in Minecraft :smug:

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Pirate Radar posted:

I'm no pro about money laundering or casinos, but how many people who play for big money like that come in with cash? Something in my brain imagines that people who are playing with >$10k at a time don't just walk in with a stack of c-notes and stand in the same cashier line as everybody else.

People regularly cash in 5k or more for chips at a time in cash from my experience at high stakes poker. With free chips online of course.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Golden Bee posted:

I thought this would be a highly detailed narrative show.

In what ways isn't it this?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I hope there's a blooper reel because filming that "textbook seizure" must have been funny as hell.

Ethics_Gradient
May 5, 2015

Common misconception that; that fun is relaxing. If it is, you're not doing it right.

Darko posted:

You can't do that if you're suspected because then youll get followed to see what youre doing, then you'd have to sit at the tables and play for a while, but yeah, casinos are huge money laundering places for people that are patient. Sitting around in a poker room at the $50/$100 tables and looking like an active player (while taking breaks and playing other tables) will move so much it becomes very hard to track as long as you're not going over certain limits. But you want to cash out over 10k because then it's tracked and looks legit.

Not that I'd know anything about this nor am I giving advice.

Macau is (or at least was) notorious for doing this for wealthy mainland Chinese to facilitate large amounts of currency withdrawals from China, which has currency controls. The house is generally in on it; the players know the "losses" they make are basically the casino's transaction fee.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Golden Bee posted:

I’ve watched two episodes and this feels like it doesn’t need to be a six hour show, it feels like a procedural for every law-enforcement related activity across dozens of years. Based on the thread title, I thought this would be a highly detailed narrative show.

I’m confused because it does seem like a detailed narrative of the crimes of Wayne Jenkins and other related crooked cops. It’s telling the story of how it happened and how he was caught.

It’s not fiction, if that was what you were looking for. This really feels like a Wire sequel to me. It touches on the systemic problems the create a guy like Jenkins.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Bird in a Blender posted:

I’m confused because it does seem like a detailed narrative of the crimes of Wayne Jenkins and other related crooked cops. It’s telling the story of how it happened and how he was caught.

It’s not fiction, if that was what you were looking for. This really feels like a Wire sequel to me. It touches on the systemic problems the create a guy like Jenkins.

Yeah, I thought that was an criticism myself.

I guess Golden Bee could watch The Corner, The Wire and this one in succession and get something resembling a procedural out of it; one with rotating actors.

I'm wishing this was longer too though so I agree with that. I think they could have maybe padded it out with some subplots even if they had to invent a few stories, characters or used some of the more "boring" elements of the actual story to extend the episodes. But, on the other hand, right now there's really no fat to the show and it's really loving tight so that's a plus.

Only other thing is wish that all this horrible poo poo went on longer, I suppose. Or do some similar shows that focus on cities other than Baltimore maybe.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


On one hand it's a shame that David Simon has to be tied so hard to the Baltimore crime business but on the other hand man we need a show like this to be airing all the drat time.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Hakkesshu posted:

On one hand it's a shame that David Simon has to be tied so hard to the Baltimore crime business but on the other hand man we need a show like this to be airing all the drat time.

Bring back the show COPS only using body cam footage and zero selective editing.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

BiggerBoat posted:

Bring back the show COPS only using body cam footage and zero selective editing.

Make Law & Order: Baltimore.

In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate, yet equally important, groups: the police, who commit crimes; and the district attorneys, who clean up after their messes and decline to prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
:doink:

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Just found this show. Another director jumping on the woke bandwagon. Sucks because I really liked the Wire. Cops are not the bad guys back the blue!!

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
The thing The Wire did that this show corrects is that in The Wire, there was a correlation between the most sadistic and most ineffectual cops (Walker, Colicchio, etc.). In the new show, sadism is a rewardable asset. There was sort of a good:smart::dumb:evil valence kinda going on in The Wire, but being smart and evil aren’t opposing traits. Jenkins is inarguably one of the more effective cops by BPDs standards despite being a sociopath.

Although I guess some of the higher ups in the BPD of the wire could be said to be both intelligent and callous

Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 02:21 on May 20, 2022

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
None of this would have happened if jenkins had shown up with some real medium sized crabs

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Lester Fremon's relationship with Shardeen was deeply unethical as he could out her as a rat at anytime.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Phenotype posted:

Just found this show. Another director jumping on the woke bandwagon. Sucks because I really liked the Wire. Cops are not the bad guys back the blue!!

This is a troll right? ...right?

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020
this is SA in the year of our lord 2022, so i'm guessing a joke, yeah

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
No it's definitely serious.

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Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Phenotype posted:

Just found this show. Another director jumping on the woke bandwagon. Sucks because I really liked the Wire. Cops are not the bad guys back the blue!!

Lol

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Phenotype posted:

Cops are not the bad guys back the blue!!

“Jenkins was always talking that poo poo, to be honest.”

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Phenotype posted:

Just found this show. Another director jumping on the woke bandwagon. Sucks because I really liked the Wire. Cops are not the bad guys back the blue!!

Check out this idiot.

Simon is the developer, writer, and executive producer. Not the director. Duh.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Did the real life Jenkins steal his look from Collichio in the Wire too?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I don't know why Bernthal's character looks like that but the real guy just looks like some random white dude. No distinguishable features at all.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Mu Zeta posted:

I don't know why Bernthal's character looks like that but the real guy just looks like some random white dude. No distinguishable features at all.

I think part of it is to help distinguish between time periods.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



kima getting shot when she went undercover retroactively justified her joining the mob of cops beating on bodie

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Maybe I have the timeline wrong, but something occurred to me: when Jenkins robs the midget stripper, the other guys are like "wait, man... that's not cool" but at that point they've already been working with Jenkins and seen how he is, right? Is it funny to anyone else that that's the line for them?

Smithwick
Jun 20, 2003

Pirate Radar posted:

Maybe I have the timeline wrong, but something occurred to me: when Jenkins robs the midget stripper, the other guys are like "wait, man... that's not cool" but at that point they've already been working with Jenkins and seen how he is, right? Is it funny to anyone else that that's the line for them?

I’m not sure about the timeline, but it could be that the stripper to them is a neutral while the people they rob and screw over are some type of bad guy or bad guy adjacent enough to justify victimizing them.

Caufman
May 7, 2007

Pirate Radar posted:

Maybe I have the timeline wrong, but something occurred to me: when Jenkins robs the midget stripper, the other guys are like "wait, man... that's not cool" but at that point they've already been working with Jenkins and seen how he is, right? Is it funny to anyone else that that's the line for them?

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Pirate Radar posted:

Maybe I have the timeline wrong, but something occurred to me: when Jenkins robs the midget stripper, the other guys are like "wait, man... that's not cool" but at that point they've already been working with Jenkins and seen how he is, right? Is it funny to anyone else that that's the line for them?

She's a "civilian", so that's over the line. Everyone else they rob is dealing drugs (allegedly, and sometimes are innocent too until the cops frame them), so they're ok to rob.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!



Okay that helped explain things for me, because I finished reading the book like two weeks before the show premiered and thought "Did they make that entire scene up just as a call back to The Wire and Cheese's midgets line?" Highly recommend the book btw, it's an easy read and while a lot of it is 1:1 for the show, it does a good job of explaining some of the stuff that only pops up for a few moments (the initial county investigation getting kicked off by ODs comes to mind).

theflyingexecutive posted:

He said up front though; Jenkins wasn't getting points. It was probably $15k for a key of heroin.

IIRC, the initial drugs that Jenkins started fencing through the bail bondsman was the drugs taken from CVS during the Freddie Grey riots. So oxy and the like.

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 20, 2022

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
It's crazy how many places I recognize from listening to Cumtown making fun of Maryland. They mentioned Anna Rundle county and I immediately thought " more like Anna Grundle".

Also great seeing so many Wire actors. I almost didn't recognize Poot.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Mu Zeta posted:

I don't know why Bernthal's character looks like that but the real guy just looks like some random white dude. No distinguishable features at all.

Ah, I was kinda worried that these shithead cops actually watched the Wire and were "influenced" by it, luckily that doesn't sound like it's the case.

Now I want someone to ask Berenthal about watching the Wire.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
Generation Kill gets left out of the SimonVerse conversation sometimes, but it's really good too and has a couple of The Wire actors in very different roles, including Colicchio.

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

ruddiger posted:

Ah, I was kinda worried that these shithead cops actually watched the Wire and were "influenced" by it, luckily that doesn't sound like it's the case.

Now I want someone to ask Berenthal about watching the Wire.



It's just a high and tight haircut, but a little longer than usual on top. A lot of Marines keep them after their EAS, especially if they enter any kind of law enforcement. (Benjamin Busch, who played Collichio, and Wayne Jenkins are both Marines.)

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

So Wayne did sport that haircut in real life? I know the haircut is from military folk, I was asking if the real life Wayne Jenkins had it in real life. Since Jenkins was in the marines he'd certainly be familiar with it but I've never seen photos of the guy so didn't know if the show took liberties or if it was drawing from what the guy actually looked like from that era.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Your Gay Uncle posted:

It's crazy how many places I recognize from listening to Cumtown making fun of Maryland. They mentioned Anna Rundle county and I immediately thought " more like Anna Grundle".

Also Stav's Bawldimore accent, yo, is spot on.

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

ruddiger posted:

So Wayne did sport that haircut in real life? I know the haircut is from military folk, I was asking if the real life Wayne Jenkins had it in real life. Since Jenkins was in the marines he'd certainly be familiar with it but I've never seen photos of the guy so didn't know if the show took liberties or if it was drawing from what the guy actually looked like from that era.

Oh, I understand now.

To answer your question though, it looks like he did:
https://www.cengnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/wayne-jenkins-jon-bernthal.jpg

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

LesterGroans posted:

Generation Kill gets left out of the SimonVerse conversation sometimes, but it's really good too and has a couple of The Wire actors in very different roles, including Colicchio.

Seconding this. GK was fantastic

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