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Prole posted:Gotta love just how absolutely loving corrupt our country is. Do you think other people see it or do you think they honestly believe that we're not absolutely loving corrupt despite all the evidence to the contrary? Sometimes when I post stuff about the latest antics of the so called UK government, Egyptian friends make comments along the lines of "we don't understand, the UK is a bastion of anti-corrupt politics" (not in these words but it's the general jist). Their faith is being shaken.
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May 21, 2022 01:30
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Which I think is the prevailing attitude of people who think that way, it's not that they know it isn't corrupt, they have an emotional need to believe it isn't.
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May 21, 2022 01:33
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As the saying goes, it takes a lifetime to build a reputation, and 5 or 6 coked up etonians to ruin it.
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Prole posted:Gotta love just how absolutely loving corrupt our country is. Do you think other people see it or do you think they honestly believe that we're not absolutely loving corrupt despite all the evidence to the contrary? It’s all comparative. After 23+ years being in China and looking back at the UK, it doesn’t seem particularly corrupt to me any more, because gestures at everything around him, and this is AFTER a 15+ year anti corruption crackdown that significantly improved things. I hear similar things from buddies in MENA, and friends in Russia and sub-saharan Africa look at corruption where I am and laugh bitterly. I mean it’s just on a different scale. The kind of scandal that I used to think was important (remember ministers cheating expenses) now seems trivial. Singapore doesn’t feel corrupt I guess? But the UK’s corruption by public officials, which is real and bad, barely even registers on a global scale. Where we do lead the world is in institutionalising and channeling corruption through things like the fundamental legal underpinnings of the offshore banking system, but it’s hard to tell where that’s specifically corruption or just power doing what power does.
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May 21, 2022 02:12
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What I think one of the big differences between the corruption in the UK and the corruption in say Middle East, Eastern Europe etc, is in those countries it is pretty open. You absolutely know that if you want to get something done speedily / at all, a brown paper envelope of some sort is expected at all levels. In the UK it is much more hidden, the big IIRC Ikea tried to be completely honest in their dealings with Russian authorities to get Ikea in there, but after 3 years of stalling found that if they did want to trade in Russia, they had to do the necessary. (I stand to be corrected! Haven't googled!) (Obviously, this was before Ukraine and boycotts etc). I'm just reading this book Kleptopia (by Tom Burgis, an FT reporter), and the deep level of financial corruption and power unveiled is phenomenal. FT review here: https://www.ft.com/content/1fd2b702-d1e7-4356-b40a-2f619646d2b0 Graun review here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/25/kleptopia-review-tom-burgis-trump-putin-russia Reading this book, I see how some of the global financial conspiracy theories in Agatha Christie's thrillers from the 1950s weren't too far from reality. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 21, 2022 |
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May 21, 2022 02:24
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all rise for the new national anthem. dance moves mandatory https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1527737106478641152
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Jakabite posted:Death to cops, long live basically decent people If people were basically decent Brexit wouldn't have happened and Johnson wouldn't be in politics.
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May 21, 2022 08:10
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Angepain posted:all rise for the new national anthem. dance moves mandatory Full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8vqIqCgRw I can't work out if this is a parody or not? Like, there are so many hilarious bits that I can't even pick one. Also, because I'm the only one awake in the house I have the volume low, and it really sounds like 'gently caress youuuu, your majesty', and that makes it a pretty good song.
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May 21, 2022 08:10
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crazyvanman posted:Full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8vqIqCgRw The English are a cursed race.
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crazyvanman posted:Full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8vqIqCgRw
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May 21, 2022 08:24
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crazyvanman posted:I can't work out if this is a parody or not? My dad, who was conscripted at 18 in 1943, would have been 97 this year. This chap is apparently 95. Basically yet another Silent with a child's view of the war.
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May 21, 2022 08:49
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Thank god all the ww2 veterans will be dead soon so their relatives can't crack the whip behind them as theyre forced to dance endlessly to a patriotic cover of girls on film
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May 21, 2022 08:53
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Care crisis solved as nursing homes become workhouses, residents get food and medicine in exchange for a set number of heartwarming tiktoks per day
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May 21, 2022 08:58
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thank u ma'am (she outranks a lady) thank u ma'am thank u ma'am (two brexits later) thank u ma'am Time to make a mic out of dog poo poo and set all the mixer controls wrong.
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May 21, 2022 08:58
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I'm just glad the U.K. isn't a racist country. Boy loses finger fleeing 'attack' at Abertillery school quote:AN 11-YEAR-OLD boy had to have one of his fingers amputated after he hurt his hand while attemping to flee an alleged attack by a group of bullies in school.
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May 21, 2022 09:03
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Racism in the UK existed from September 2015 until April 2020. All the rest is banter or pragmatism.
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May 21, 2022 09:18
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Read that as racism in the UK extended We keep meaning to cancel racism but forget and then it auto renews for another year
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I mean yes the UK is basically £10 food, £3 public services, £4000 racism, someone who is good at the economy please shut the gently caress up we like it that way.
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May 21, 2022 09:29
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"forkboy84" posted:nu-metal, the dumbest sub-genre of music ever known to man You loving what.
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Gorn Myson posted:This is Britain. Theres a zero percent chance this is parody. But...the dance...the backwards '7' miming...surely... OK yes you're right. When are sea levels supposed to rise again?
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May 21, 2022 10:07
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Prole posted:Gotta love just how absolutely loving corrupt our country is. Do you think other people see it or do you think they honestly believe that we're not absolutely loving corrupt despite all the evidence to the contrary? If they do (and I think many don't) it will be something like 'well maybe, but other countries [disgusting non-britane ones] are worse!!!'
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haakman posted:You loving what. wow that remark really got you crawling in your skin huh will those wounds heal?
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bessantj posted:I'm just glad the U.K. isn't a racist country. Hopefully no-one from the school or local authority checks out the school's Wikipedia page for a while Also, their report from Estyn from earlier in the year is going to look pretty loving stupid given they highlight the improvements made to pupils' behaviour. kingturnip fucked around with this message at 10:23 on May 21, 2022 |
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May 21, 2022 10:20
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May 21, 2022 10:39
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Building on a proud tradition of the Blair years there, surrounding schools with big steel fences designed to cut your fingers off
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:What I think one of the big differences between the corruption in the UK and the corruption in say Middle East, Eastern Europe etc, is in those countries it is pretty open. Yeah, this. Have a friend in UAE working as a mid level manager for local government, and he says they would send out looking for tenders and get two prices, the official one by email, and the bribe by phone or face to face afterwards. In the UK its waaaay more hidden. Your family get an internship but gets paid, you go on holiday and surprise its all free, etc.
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Beefeater1980 posted:It’s all comparative. After 23+ years being in China and looking back at the UK, it doesn’t seem particularly corrupt to me any more, because gestures at everything around him, and this is AFTER a 15+ year anti corruption crackdown that significantly improved things. I hear similar things from buddies in MENA, and friends in Russia and sub-saharan Africa look at corruption where I am and laugh bitterly. Singapore is definitely in on that Leninist fudging between party executive and state executive since the 1970s. In all of the communist or non-communist-but-Leninist countries (e.g. Taiwan under the KMT before liberalisation), it's taken as given that the senior civil service outranks even the ruling party's own legislative backbenchers. This would not even be a smoke-filled room thing but one where backbenchers who attempt to upend the pecking order will be openly slapped down and told to know their place. Here is Singapore's own notorious episode which has been extensively remarked upon by observers like Michael Barr (for context Mr Philip Yeo was the chair of the EDB, the powerful industrial planning board akin to Japan's MITI or Korea's EPB; Mr Chng Hee Kok was a longtime PAP backbencher of no notable appointment). In such contexts, a politicized permanent secretary role would not draw much comment. In contrast, it is when permanent secretaries fail to be loyal to the ruling party that there is comment. This is a perhaps a constitutional question rather than a corruption one though. The perhaps only-too-British assumption here is that a neutral civil service is possible and therefore should be expected and sought (if there was no such assumption, an inquiry led by such a role would not be politically valuable to begin with). It wasn't all that long ago that (esp due to the influence of Tony Benn's post-ministerial exegeses) that the UK left took it as an article of faith that the concept of civil-service neutrality is a toxic fiction of liberal capitalism, but despite Sue Grayesque episodes I've definitely noticed that this has shifted - the Tories are no longer the "natural party of government" (or, for that matter, of the educated voter) but quite the converse, and skepticism of civil service benevolence and potential has conversely taken on a more right-libertarian sheen: have had enough of experts, etc. ronya fucked around with this message at 11:17 on May 21, 2022 |
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happyhippy posted:Have a friend in UAE working as a mid level manager for local government, and he says they would send out looking for tenders and get two prices, the official one by email, and the bribe by phone or face to face afterwards.
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May 21, 2022 11:22
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"No no, Mr. Hacksaw, remember what we said about outsourcing through a third party?"
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haakman posted:You loving what. I apologise for my extremely hot take that the sub-genre that gave us "I've got a chainsaw, I'll skin your rear end raw & if my day keeps going this way I just might break your loving face tonight" was dumb. And who can forget "Such a sexy, sexy pretty little thing, Fierce nipple pierce, you got me sprung with your tongue ring, And I ain't gonna lie 'cause your loving gets me high, So to keep you by my side, there's nothing that I won't try"? Nothing inherently wrong with dumb music, I like death metal & there's only so many songs you can listen to about eating your murder victims entrails you can hear before it all becomes a parody of itself. Hell, I like Manowar presicely because they are about as dumb as humanity can get without collapsing into a singularity, and without a fraction of a gram of irony. But man, nu-metal is dumber than a bag of Tories. It's like dumb cubed. And I will never forgive lovely rear end lazy rock club DJs who, 5-10 years after nu-metal was consigned to the dustbin of history where it belonged, still played loving Bodies and Wait & Bleed and Down With The Sickness. Goddammit you motherfuckers, play something new you incredibly boring bastards. You're telling me Anchor by Cave In isn't every bit as catchy & danceable (by rock club standards) as loving Killing Time by (hed) PE? Also look how loving dumb this is, as a video, as a song, as fashion choices, everything, it's a testament to the depths humanity can plum. You touched the poop here, I cannot be held responsible for the incoherent rant that nu-metal inspires in me
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Cave In do own (and they have a decent new album out this week!). But you shouldn't lump Slipknot in with the garbage nu-metal, they are a legit metal band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDwgb8ZIyk
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British corruption is at a much higher level than the "slip the official a brown envelope full of cash if you want your paperwork dealt with in a reasonable timeframe if at all", probably by design - the ruling elites want to make sure they get all the money, no plebs wetting their beaks along the way. Someone at the planning office takes a bung to allow a local developer to chop down a protected tree? They're going to get grassed up and done. A minister gets free five-star holidays for his whole family by letting a millionaire landowner and donor build on the green belt? System working as intended, nothing to see here. Military stuff is probably the ultimate example of the system. UK and US procurement is massively bloated, wasteful and overpriced, colossal amounts of public money being diverted to private companies, but it does (eventually) produce stuff that works. Meanwhile, as the Russians have found, their "everyone at every level is on the take" system ends with tank reactive armour that doesn't work because someone's sold the explosives inside it on the black market, and soldiers not having a clue what they're doing because rather than being trained they were used as free labour to build a road to some officer's dacha.
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ronya posted:Singapore is definitely in on that Leninist fudging between party executive and state executive since the 1970s. In all of the communist or non-communist-but-Leninist countries (e.g. Taiwan under the KMT before liberalisation), it's taken as given that the senior civil service outranks even the ruling party's own legislative backbenchers. This would not even be a smoke-filled room thing but one where backbenchers who attempt to upend the pecking order will be openly slapped down and told to know their place. Here is Singapore's own notorious episode which has been extensively remarked upon by observers like Michael Barr (for context Mr Philip Yeo was the chair of the EDB, the powerful industrial planning board akin to Japan's MITI or Korea's EPB; Mr Chng Hee Kok was a longtime PAP backbencher of no notable appointment). I mean it is possible. The UK has successfully trialled a depoliticised civil service. It’s not clear if you can get away with this when you’re not a big and rich ex colonial power. But it’s a good thing to have if your country can afford it IMO.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Cave In do own (and they have a decent new album out this week!). But you shouldn't lump Slipknot in with the garbage nu-metal, they are a legit metal band Their first record definitely is nu-metal and as that's the only one I listened to much apart from the MFKR demo (which is endearingly sloppy and all over the shop and totally lacking in coherence but still manages to have a charm). I definitely listened to Iowa at the time but despite being super excited I bounced off it hard when I actually bought it. "If your 555 then I'm 666" is about all I remember. Maybe they redid Gently from MFKR. I do remember being enough if a Slipknot fan to get a free copy of Heretic Song a couple months before the album dropped, a 1 song CD posted to my home, it was novel. But anyway, people say Around The Fur is nu-metal and that's still good, and I'll always dig the 1st 2 System of a Down albums despite being nu-metal as poo poo, it's not all irredeemable garbage, just 99.9999% And yes, I'm listening to the new Cave In now, no way that wasn't going to ve a day 1 purchase
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