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Gaius Marius posted:It's called Warworld Yardbomb posted:Weren't people arguing a long while back that Iron Man going and stopping a mass killing from happening in the middle east was endorsing meddling in another culture's politics or something like that. Sometimes when thinking critically about a work of art, people think about things like "What was the social and political climate like when this was made? How did that influence the way the work was created?" instead of just looking at it as a Platonic ideal, separated completely from the influence of real life. Neddy Seagoon posted:They seem very surprised they jumped over that fence. Guinea pigs are great because they always look baffled at life. Just eternally bewildered little loafs.
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May 21, 2022 15:17
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Puppy Time posted:Sometimes when thinking critically about a work of art, people think about things like "What was the social and political climate like when this was made? How did that influence the way the work was created?" instead of just looking at it as a Platonic ideal, separated completely from the influence of real life. even if you genuinely think 'Superman tries to stop a world built on slavery and violent exploitation despite not being a native of that world' is ~problematic~ it's literally not colonialist because that actually means something. He wasn't loving setting up ~earth values~ or whatever to exploit the resources and culture of Warworld he was saying 'it feels like a world built entirely around abducting people to fight to the death endlessly is a bad way to live'. Also...you know Warworld isn't an actual world, right? It's Mongul's gladiator space station. There's no 'natives' he's exploiting/speaking over/whatever.
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May 21, 2022 15:34
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if you think about it, by blowing up The Death Star wasn't Luke doing an imperialism? He should have left it for the native stormtroopers to have their own autonomy.
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May 21, 2022 15:36
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sexpig by night posted:if you think about it, by blowing up The Death Star wasn't Luke doing an imperialism? He should have left it for the native stormtroopers to have their own autonomy. They should have not interfered with the internal conflict on Endor trying to "liberate" the Ewoks.
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May 21, 2022 15:42
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Motto posted:Yeah, that whole sequence is a quirky American billionaire seeing Bad Stuff happening on cable news and immediately jetting over to personally gun down all the terrorists and leave, fixing everything Not to mention using tech that's so smart it can actively prevent civilians from being targeted despite shooting missiles everywhere.
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May 21, 2022 16:07
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I think a lot of the sex scene discourse is a reaction to Euphoria, which is the only show I can think of right now that's both targeted at that age group and is also full of sex scenes. Of course, those sex scenes are plot relevant, and a bunch of different types of sex are portrayed and the *type* of sex portrayed is often plot relevant, so even I think McIntosh would be satisfied
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May 21, 2022 16:12
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Spermando posted:
A complaint I saw about Velma wasn't that it was fetishized, but that it was just another in a line of edgy animated sitcoms in the vein of Rick and Morty or Family Guy or whatnot. The issue wasn't that it was bad because it was edgy, though, but rather that it was another example of adult animation nowadays being mostly made up of this kind of thing. It's not puritanism, but rather burnout.
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May 21, 2022 16:40
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Max Wilco posted:A complaint I saw about Velma wasn't that it was fetishized, but that it was just another in a line of edgy animated sitcoms in the vein of Rick and Morty or Family Guy or whatnot. The issue wasn't that it was bad because it was edgy, though, but rather that it was another example of adult animation nowadays being mostly made up of this kind of thing. It's not puritanism, but rather burnout. That's certainly a relevant complaint.
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May 21, 2022 16:45
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Waiting for them to do a Ninja Turtles show that wraps all the way back around to being the violent, edge 90s shlock it was back in the original comics. Who am kidding, they've probably already done this, haven't they?
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May 21, 2022 16:58
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Skippy McPants posted:Waiting for them to do a Ninja Turtles show that wraps all the way back around to being the violent, edge 90s shlock it was back in the original comics. Does the Michael Bay movie count? I haven't actually seen it, I'm just guessing.
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May 21, 2022 17:16
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The 2000s OVA "Turtles Forever" had a segment with the black-and-white Mirage Turtles.
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May 21, 2022 17:24
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fun hater posted:i would like to know if the fact that its easier than ever for much younger children to be a victim of sexual harassment and grooming bc of the internet theyre grown up with and the rise of the "puritanical streak" I was thinking a bit ago about something similar. How like "back in the daaaay" a lot of fandoms locked their smutty stuff behind private blogs, or 18+ LiveJournal groups/forums. But now thanks to everything concentrating on twitter, instagram, tumblr, tik tok, or AO3, and none of those websites having much in the way of filters separating kids who might not be interested in smut and adults talking about smut, especially in fandoms where the characters are under-aged, really leads to a nasty tension you just didn't bump into years ago. It was dorky but it feels like there are definitely way less places where kids and teenagers can hang out on the internet and not have to step around things the Adult Internet has strewn everywhere. Can't even go relax and play some Meerca Chase on Neopets anymore since Flash is dead. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 21, 2022 |
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May 21, 2022 19:11
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Nuns with Guns posted:It was dorky but it feels like there are definitely way less places where kids and teenagers can hang out on the internet and not have to step around things the Adult Internet has strewn everywhere. Can't even go relax and play some Meerca Chase on Neopets anymore since Flash is dead. This resonates. It seems like every other discord about a game has an NSFW channel now, if not just "throw it in #general". I'm not a prude, I don't mind a porns or two, but it's very odd that even relatively kid-friendly titles (Nintendo ones, often) just roll that stuff right into the middle of their community. Like for gently caress's sake, your Splatoon discord does not need a porn channel, keep it in your pants
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May 21, 2022 19:24
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tracecomplete posted:This resonates. It seems like every other discord about a game has an NSFW channel now, if not just "throw it in #general". I'm not a prude, I don't mind a porns or two, but it's very odd that even relatively kid-friendly titles (Nintendo ones, often) just roll that stuff right into the middle of their community. You do realize that a lot of those fan discords with NSFW channels are created and modded by teens, right?
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May 21, 2022 19:27
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tracecomplete posted:Like for gently caress's sake, your Splatoon discord does not need a porn channel, keep it in your pants whoa there you don't want the AGDQ thread people comin after you
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May 21, 2022 19:27
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lunar detritus posted:You do realize that a lot of those fan discords with NSFW channels are created and modded by teens, right? I'm sure some are. What's your point? Alaois posted:whoa there you don't want the AGDQ thread people comin after you You must game >this< slow to address me by name
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May 21, 2022 19:34
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lunar detritus posted:You do realize that a lot of those fan discords with NSFW channels are created and modded by teens, right? Do you join enough discords created and managed by teenagers to have a detailed tally of how many of them managed by under 18 kids?
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May 21, 2022 19:34
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Nuns with Guns posted:Do you join enough discords created and managed by teenagers to have a detailed tally of how many of them managed by under 18 kids? lol no but going "why does nobody think of the children" when joining fan communities is a bit out of touch. I even agree that nsfw channels are way too common and weird to have on a discord, but I'm not sure there's a solution.
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May 21, 2022 19:39
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Skippy McPants posted:Waiting for them to do a Ninja Turtles show that wraps all the way back around to being the violent, edge 90s shlock it was back in the original comics. Um, pardon you, TMNT was violent edgy Frank Miller Daredevil parody in the 1980s.  In the 1990s it was basically like the cartoon and the Archie Comics series got... weird after a while.sexpig by night posted:if you think about it, by blowing up The Death Star wasn't Luke doing an imperialism? He should have left it for the native stormtroopers to have their own autonomy. Bit from 'So many innocent contractors were killed on the second Death Star' from Clerks here. (Which is funny because you get Empire stans using that and then forgetting that the question was answer in the same scene.)
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May 21, 2022 19:52
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lunar detritus posted:lol no Yes, I've heard modern scientists have recently come to the conclusion there's something about teenage biology that might make them horny, too. I just think that there's a tension between teenagers having to share space with adult fans. Particularly when it is in fandoms with a lot of younger characters and watching the adults get thirsty over the characters that might be the same age as the real teenagers in the same discussion groups. Others don't care, sure. That's always been there. Still, there's fewer places to escape from that, if only by virtue of everyone concentrating on a handful massive social media sites. And I don't know about a solution, either. It'd involve making a space for that, and clearly there's not much financial incentive. You can even see that in some of the retrospective videos from the younger twentysomethings that get posted here. 10/15/20 years ago kid-friendly social media sites would get set up by one corporation or another, then they all gradually lost income as kids stopped browsing the internet on home computers and swapped to phones, and then the websites died.
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May 21, 2022 19:53
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lunar detritus posted:lol no TBH it's kinda goofy to look at that exchange and read it as "think of the children!!!" pearl clutching instead of just, like, a statement of how things are. I feel like the meme of people clutching pearls over children is brought up a lot more often than it's actually happening. Like, sometimes things are actually not set up great for kids, and it's something that deserves attention and discussion, instead of pretending like the existence of horniness in teenagers means that there's no problem in funneling them into the same place as weird horny adults. Kids and adults are at different developmental and power places in their horny journey, and would be best served by having some sort of separation available. (And of course everyone would be served by having a clearly marked Horny Containment Area: if you're not into horny, then you can easily avoid it; if you are into horny, you can get your freak on without worrying about prudish bystanders.)
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May 21, 2022 20:22
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nafw channels should ne for posting funny poo poo. what kind of freak drops their spank material in a public space with any reason other than to get off on sharing it
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May 21, 2022 20:38
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fun hater posted:nafw channels should ne for posting funny poo poo. what kind of freak drops their spank material in a public space with any reason other than to get off on sharing it 
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May 21, 2022 20:39
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Teenagers looking at porn? What is this world coming to? I'll have you know I have never seen a single boob in my life.
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May 21, 2022 21:44
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Teenagers looking at porn? What is this world coming to? I'll have you know I have never seen a single boob in my life. No mirrors in your house huh? 
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May 21, 2022 21:48
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May 21, 2022 21:52
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There is plenty of precedent for the whole swing towards puritanism that is happening right now. We only need to look back to the 80s, when a bunch of the second-wave feminists joined with the Religious Right to attack stuff like Playboy and porn on VHS. And while Playboy/Penthouse/etc and 80s studio porn certainly had their problems, the only thing those second-wavers actually accomplished was giving more power to the forces that are today making it a crime to get an abortion or let a child transition. There’s a reason Fox News is using the word “grooming” to describe any situation where queer people are simply existing in the presence of children, it’s because they know they can use the language that the new puritans are popularizing to push a right-wing social agenda. It’s the same playbook from 40 years ago, and it’s disappointing to see so many people fall for it.
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May 21, 2022 22:39
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The internet's become way more sanitized in the past 20 years. It's become way more centralized and most of those sites don't allow nudity. Hell, people don't even say the word "porn" on TikTok.
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May 21, 2022 22:42
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the reasoning for children vs adults and their effectiveness on society are wildly differentjackofarcades posted:The internet's become way more sanitized in the past 20 years. It's become way more centralized and most of those sites don't allow nudity. Hell, people don't even say the word "porn" on TikTok. i think this is literally due entirely to advertising and almost nothing to do with the current zeitgeist
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May 21, 2022 22:59
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Teenagers looking at porn? What is this world coming to? I'll have you know I have never seen a single boob in my life. If you weren't immediately born in your 20's you have no right to be looking at porn. You were underage at one point in your life and that's a crime.
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May 21, 2022 23:04
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fun hater posted:the reasoning for children vs adults and their effectiveness on society are wildly different Sure, and pressure from Christian groups on banks and credit card companies and the like. I'm just saying I don't think there's something about today's internet which is uniquely awful for teens.
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May 21, 2022 23:55
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jackofarcades posted:Sure, and pressure from Christian groups on banks and credit card companies and the like. I'm just saying I don't think there's something about today's internet which is uniquely awful for teens. The internet I grew up in threw around slurs as "jokes". At least nobody uses (f-slur) as a descriptor anymore.
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May 22, 2022 00:42
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Oh people still do but on 4chan where all the nazis and school shooters live. And other right wing sites mad about how sjw's won't let them say the n word in the PTA meetings.
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May 22, 2022 00:50
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Jessie looks at why this recent horror novel has the TERFs triggered pretty badly (warning: it gets heavy at times): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQlDvDexWFc People Make Games looks at why people like VRChat in contrast to every other "metaverse" out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PHT-zBxKQQ It comes with this recommended companion video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v_Dl7i4Bcw
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May 22, 2022 00:58
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Mr.Radar posted:Jessie looks at why this recent horror novel has the TERFs triggered pretty badly (warning: it gets heavy at times): That theme song she uses at the start? Jesus, turn it down a tad. Way too loud.
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May 22, 2022 02:11
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Jessie Gender is awesome but I can't watch her a lot because a lot of her stuff is (understandably!) heavy and I don't care about any of the Star Tracks ETA I did watch that video and it's great. Also that book sounds great if you're into heavy poo poo
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May 22, 2022 03:23
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Also, something I wish was mentioned, but literal lol at the loving gall of Lily Cade to call anyone a rapist.
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May 22, 2022 03:26
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Oh yeah lily cade is a serial rapist.
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May 22, 2022 03:35
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edogawa rando posted:Also, something I wish was mentioned, but literal lol at the loving gall of Lily Cade to call anyone a rapist. Who's that?
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May 22, 2022 03:46
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I admit, the thumbnail of the video has put me off from watching the Jesse Gender video. I don’t particularly want to see gore, even if I know it’s just makeup
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