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Read After Burning posted:Well, not sure on the etiquette on this (I only buy on Discogs and have never sold), but if that is a known issue with that version/pressing of the album, then it could technically still be considered VG+? Like, "It's a known fact that this album was mis-pressed and has two side Cs rather than a side C and side D, so I am grading this on the current condition the disc is in, not grading it on the quality of that pressing"? (Sorry if this makes no sense. No, that does make sense, but there's nothing in the listing for this particular pressing album that says this is an issue in general. It wasn't listed by this particular seller where I guess I was presuming based on VG+ that it has been played by someone. I get your point, but I suppose I'd hope that if this was known -- that three whole songs weren't included when you buy this particular pressing -- that this would be flagged up top in the listing.
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It definitely would've been labelled a Mispress in the album listing. This is just a seller not checking their product before putting it up. VG+ is a vague enough "Sure no one is really going to actually ask questions as long as it plays and looks good" indicator that its real easy to slap it on something without checking.
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Definitely a case of the seller taking a gamble and you're left to deal with it (get refund). Rude seller.
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dorium posted:It definitely would've been labelled a Mispress in the album listing. Aha, I didn't know that was one of the descriptors that Discogs offers for the release page (assuming you mean under 'Format', where it gives info such as stereo vs mono, the color of the disc, and whether its a re-issue). I've yet to come across one of those. McCoy Pauley posted:It wasn't listed by this particular seller where I guess I was presuming based on VG+ that it has been played by someone. You'd think so, but apparently it's pretty common to glance at it, go "Yup, that looks VG+/NM" and put it up for sale without even listening to it.  I buy from a few sellers that listen to each record before it goes out...or at least, they claim to.
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Huh -- looking at other listings for the same album on Discogs, there is one listed where the seller has a comment reading "PLEASE READ: Media is actually like new HOWEVER weird pressing defect LP2 IS SIDE 3 ON BOTH SIDES, even though label says otherwise...great collectors item." Which if I'd bought that one, fair play, that's on me. But my seller didn't list this one that way. Well, I only just messaged him this afternoon, so I figure it's fair to take a day or two to get back to me.
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McCoy Pauley posted:drat. Had a double LP arrive today from Discogs and on the second disc, side 4 appears twice and there is no side 3. VG+ has nothing to do with release information; usually major mispress will have a release page and a good seller will make sure they have it listed correctly, it's on the buyer to make sure they are getting the correct version they want. I usually list in the description when this happens to give a heads up but some do slip through the cracks. If sent the wrong release version than what was ordered then yeah that's absolutely on the seller. Read After Burning posted:Aha, I didn't know that was one of the descriptors that Discogs offers for the release page (assuming you mean under 'Format', where it gives info such as stereo vs mono, the color of the disc, and whether its a re-issue). I've yet to come across one of those. I don't even sell full time and there's no way i'd have time to do that, most records I have played at one point tho so I tend to know, and I do drop needles on anything that looks below VG+ but honestly again I do not have time to listen to the tracks in full. I would on request though, I have no problems with pictures and stuff.
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McCoy Pauley posted:Huh -- looking at other listings for the same album on Discogs, there is one listed where the seller has a comment reading "PLEASE READ: Media is actually like new HOWEVER weird pressing defect LP2 IS SIDE 3 ON BOTH SIDES, even though label says otherwise...great collectors item." I remember this being a huge issue for some Roadrunner releases. Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos was the worst victim. Every US copy had the "Side 3 pressed twice" issue.
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I preordered the new Arcade Fire back in March, paid $11 in shipping, the album came out over 2 weeks ago, and it still hasn't been delivered. I emailed them last night saying that it appeared to be lost in transit, and I just got an email back saying they're shipping me a new one. Maybe both will show up, who knows.
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BigFactory posted:What album is it? Trouble Will Find Me Assuming I know how to read a Discogs entry (which I'd like to think I can, but maybe not a fair assumption), I'm not seeing anything saying it's a known issue with the album in general. Aside from being annoying for me personally, my kids are probably enjoying this because it's preventing me from playing Side 3 really loud over and over.
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McCoy Pauley posted:Trouble Will Find Me Sorry man, Graceless is a banger and they’re missing out. At least you got Pink Rabbits and Humiliation.
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VladimirLeninpest posted:Sorry man, Graceless is a banger and they’re missing out. At least you got Pink Rabbits and Humiliation. Yeah, if this wasn't happening I'd be singing "I Need My Girl" really loud and embarrassing my kids. What a bummer. Assuming the seller works out a refund, it's making me a little jumpy about buying another copy. Is it fair to assume that if there are widespread misprinting issues with this specific release there would more written about it in comments on Discogs?
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McCoy Pauley posted:Yeah, if this wasn't happening I'd be singing "I Need My Girl" really loud and embarrassing my kids. What a bummer. Send a message before paying asking the seller to check and any good seller should accommodate no problem. Also my guess is the seller will ask you to return it and then refund in full when they get it back, I think paypal can cover your return shipping.
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Virgil Vox posted:Send a message before paying asking the seller to check and any good seller should accommodate no problem. Also my guess is the seller will ask you to return it and then refund in full when they get it back, I think paypal can cover your return shipping. Thanks -- that's good advice.
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I think the few "we listen to every record before we send it out" accounts I've bought from (again, assuming they are actually doing this) were record stores with a Discogs account, not an individual. I'd assume it's easier to give everything a test-listen if you have a few employees. Not saying any seller is "obligated" to do this, I have no doubt that would take up half your day! Just pointing out that there are a few who do so (or at least claim to), but those seem to be pretty rare for the reasons you mentioned.Virgil Vox posted:VG+ has nothing to do with release information; usually major mispress will have a release page and a good seller will make sure they have it listed correctly, it's on the buyer to make sure they are getting the correct version they want. I usually list in the description when this happens to give a heads up but some do slip through the cracks. If sent the wrong release version than what was ordered then yeah that's absolutely on the seller.  This is what I was trying to say, thank you. Ideally the seller points out any pressing issues (since some folks...like me...don't really care much about versions or pressings) to prevent someone accidentally buying a hosed-up printing, but regardless, the VG/NM/M scale judges the quality of that particular disc, not the pressing as a whole. Compare "It's known that the 2006 pressing of XXX, serial number 123ABC was mis-pressed, but this disc is a VG+ copy of that mis-pressed XXX, as compared to this other guy, who is selling a NM copy of the same mis-pressed XXX" vs "I bought a 2010 pressing of XXX, serial number 456DEF, but was instead sent the busted 2006 pressing, 123ABC". The latter is DEFINITELY reason to get your money back, to be clear...the former is a bit murkier, at least in my eyes. McCoy Pauley posted:Is it fair to assume that if there are widespread misprinting issues with this specific release there would more written about it in comments on Discogs? I would assume so, but like the other goon mentioned, be sure to ask beforehand. For all we know, you're one of the first to discover this (or at least bring it up online)! Read After Burning fucked around with this message at 02:27 on May 21, 2022 |
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Read After Burning posted:You'd think so, but apparently it's pretty common to glance at it, go "Yup, that looks VG+/NM" and put it up for sale without even listening to it. Realistically it's very time consuming to play grade everything. But it seems like a lot of dealers don't even take much time to visually grade them if they're not just lying outright. I've gotten plenty of records listed as VG+ that the slightest glance would tell you aren't even close. I think a lot of this is people just not bothering to hold the thing under a light. My favorite is when dealers say "Gradings are subjective!".
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ChocNitty posted:How can I find the value of an LP I have? You could try to get on antiques roadshow
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ChocNitty posted:How can I find the value of an LP I have? I can’t believe you posted this without info on the record, please tell
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Sweeper posted:I can’t believe you posted this without info on the record, please tell I have lots of records that have never been sold on discogs. I tend to think that means they’re fairly worthless but I could be wrong. It at least means there aren’t people out there clambering to buy them.
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My Discogs seller who sold me the misprinted copy of Trouble Will Find Me issued me a refund immediately and apologized -- said he'd never listened to the album. I appreciate the prompt resolution of the whole thing. Now I guess I'll see if anyone else selling one on Discogs can confirm side three exists. Or see if I can find it locally. I feel like I might be able to spot the misprint visually since the grooves in sides three and four on my disc look completely identical, which I imagine won't be the case on the correctly printed version. Thanks all for the advice on this above.
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ChocNitty posted:How can I find the value of an LP I have? Check popsike and 45 cat too. Popsike will tell you historical eBay sales.
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 Today's arrivals. I've bought 15 or 16 records this month. Time to hopefully chill a little now that I have enough to keep me busy for a bit (am a newbie). spinst fucked around with this message at 19:20 on May 21, 2022 |
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Sweeper posted:I can’t believe you posted this without info on the record, please tell Posted this a few years back in this thread. It's a sealed copy of an album made by The Peoples Temple, and Jim Jones. This is the one copy that's being sold: https://www.ebay.com/itm/393937051660?hash=item5bb87a600c:g:TykAAOSwlbJiCwlz I know it's kinda hosed up. Don't hate me. SwimNurd posted:Check popsike and 45 cat too. Popsike will tell you historical eBay sales. Thanks!
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SwimNurd posted:Check popsike and 45 cat too. Popsike will tell you historical eBay sales. Popsike shows completed listings that weren't sold, too, so it is only mildly helpful. If someone puts the Miss Congeniality OST white hot stamper on ebay for $500 and no one buys it, it will still show up on Popsike as being $500 when we all know it's actually worth thousands. Are there any museums that might be interested in leasing the record from you, maybe? It's a hosed up historical artifact.
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ChocNitty posted:Posted this a few years back in this thread. I love weird historical poo poo like this, so no hate from me! That's wild. How did you come across it, if you don't mind sharing? (Apologies if the story is too personal, etc..I totally understand)
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ChocNitty posted:How can I find the value of an LP I have? Discogs has several sales noted? https://www.discogs.com/sell/history/896743
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Toe Rag posted:Discogs has several sales noted? Yeah seriously. A sealed copy was sold a month ago for $300. Value set
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Well gang, sorry to disappoint but Rodney didn't make it through the sale, and the allure of $70 worth of trade in to the local record shop was too much.  On the upside there's still a lot I never got to in thinning my collection, so there's still some potential. Thus far on that front I can't decide if I want to keep Wolfgang van Halen's album, apparently it's kept its value pretty well on discogs?
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ChocNitty posted:Posted this a few years back in this thread. I love that whoever created this listing is charging for shipping. Frozen Peach posted:Got MASTER BOOT RECORD's new album today and it slaps I don't care about the records I just want to see more of the print on that shirt if you don't mind. CPL593H fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 22, 2022 |
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CPL593H posted:I don't care about the records I just want to see more of the print on that shirt. gently caress it. Happy Pride ya'll! 
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Frozen Peach posted:gently caress it. Happy Pride ya'll! A rainbow dress of Animal Crossing animals? HOLY gently caress I NEED THIS, where did you get it please and thank you! As to Master Boot Record I haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to the new album, have his compositional skills improved? I love love love his tone but his original works have kinda bored me by the end of the album. I want to buy his stuff but not if it elicits that kind of reaction from me you know? It's also why I shamefully only have his free album of video game music covers where they are remixes forcing him into using other peoples compositions. edit: Dangit the dress is an old Black Milk collab design, not available anymore. Oh well, still cool though! Turbinosamente fucked around with this message at 01:58 on May 22, 2022 |
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Turbinosamente posted:As to Master Boot Record I haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to the new album, have his compositional skills improved? They're still kinda samey by the end of the album, but it's interesting enough to sit through 4 sides of vinyl for me. Of course your mileage may vary.
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Frozen Peach posted:gently caress it. Happy Pride ya'll! And it has pockets! Totally rad. Great record pickup too.
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BigFactory posted:Maybe records should have pockets… Bruce Springsteen "Born in the USA" with pockets when
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Hot Diggity! posted:Bruce Springsteen "Born in the USA" with pockets when Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers with pockets.
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