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I like to pop then near shrines, just hang near the edge, deploy it and wait for it to chain a bit, then run in. There's usually never enough enemies around to get the full use out of it though, so I mainly focus on stalker sentinels.
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# ? May 22, 2022 02:28 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 17:14 |
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This weekend's venture into RF as my second build has been...underwhelming. I feel like I am doing something wrong, even though I have most of the gear that I need. https://pastebin.com/HxnMrDTt My dps is the biggest problem. Single target is not great, but about what I expected. The problem is the RF damage on non-bosses. I Frostblink every magic/rare for the curse on hit, but I still find a lot of blue packs that take 10-15 seconds to kill. A harbinger is at least 30 seconds of combat - not counting waiting for the waves to spawn. The defensive side is also kind of disappointing given that I have Aegis + Melding, and 89 capped resistances. I have the same effective hit pool as my EA elementalist, and my regen is ok. It is at 780/s, so I don't really bounce back as quickly from taking damage as a lot of other inquisitors I see.
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# ? May 22, 2022 02:52 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Galaxy brain idea: use a remove burning flask to turn off RF It's so not worth keeping that on your bar unless you're doing maven (gotta shut off RF if you catch a no regen beam). Like you're losing a flask slot because it becomes something you only use when you want to turn off RF instead of an actual flask you use for the benefits of the flask. I think expeditions are the best way to use a pandemonium sentinel for RF but in general it may be a better playstyle to only use apex and stalker and focus them on the tree.
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# ? May 22, 2022 03:15 |
i turned my blue sentinel off as RF and don't regret it all. it's better to focus on stalker+apex unless you're running something like a shrine strategy where you can dependably get big packs every map.
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# ? May 22, 2022 03:42 |
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With RF I've started just not turning on RF immediately and on good map layouts gathering up a giant group twice and popping the blue sentinel on them then continuing as normal. Otherwise RF is rather anti-synergy for getting a juicy blue sentinel pop. TyrantWD posted:This weekend's venture into RF as my second build has been...underwhelming. You seem to have more gear then I have with the melding/aegis/cluster setups and I've been feeling similar with sometimes bad single target dps even when they don't have 85% fire resist from mods and was hoping would be functionally immortal once the aegis/melding was put in. As for your gear the main upgrade points I see are a 21 purity of ice and +1 all spell gem sceptre (with +1 fire too if you can recombine that) and then with that socketed in your gloves you'll hit another +1 max res (maybe more with aura effectiveness?) +2 spell gem weapon with just fire multi crafted on would net you a whole lot more dps and ehp from the auras buffed.
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# ? May 22, 2022 04:42 |
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So I'm at a bit of a crossroads, and it's really not the one I expected to be at. I'm at a point where I can often complete T16 maps but rarely deathless, and I can't reliably handle the map bosses. (I often can kill them but I'm using most/all of my portals, and, anything especially juiced, forget it.) I'm at level 91 and the way things are going I will never ever see 92. Most of my available upgrades are in 'buckets of money' territory, particularly if I want any additional defensive layers. (My next logical step is qualitying up my gems/going toward Awakened versions, etc, and most of my gear is pretty solid at this point.) None of this is particularly surprising, this is where I often decide to roll a different character or just find something else to do with my time. Except I had an Ashes of the Stars drop tonight lmao. So 'buckets of money' is actually a reasonable game plan, though I think I'm still leaning toward doing something new (either with the Ashes, or with the aforementioned buckets of money). What I can't decide is wtf to play next, and my brain just going "something Rampagey, maybe" isn't helping. If I don't sell the Ashes I have about 3 ex and could reliably raise a couple more just off some div cards and scarabs and stuff I haven't bothered selling yet, plus liquidating my gear. I'm not really interested in any minion builds, and probably not in RF (since it seems like it would play a lot like Cyclone Whispering Ice does). I'd like something that can at least handle high red map bosses and the occasional endgame boss (though boss fights aren't really a great time for me even when I can do them). Anyone have suggestions (other than "gently caress you" which I am taking as read).
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# ? May 22, 2022 05:35 |
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TyrantWD posted:This weekend's venture into RF as my second build has been...underwhelming. I'm no expert at this but just throwing in a mediocre +1 fire skills multimod sceptre instead of your current one increases rf dmg by 15%. you can easily craft it by doing the +1 gems recipe and then alt spam for a blue +dot or +fire dot or +1 all spell and then recombinater them and multimod fire dmg or whatever is missing.
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# ? May 22, 2022 05:52 |
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If you build around a rampage unique and go all in on shrines with the gull and maybe blunderbore, you could have a pretty fun mapping/delerium character, not sure what actual build though
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# ? May 22, 2022 05:55 |
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Just curious...is toxic rain dead? Hardly any on poe.ninja. For fun I dusted off my TR Trickster from harvest (my first full league, in retrospect I know gear got crazy, but I can't imagine it's that special). Copied a tree from the literally one build on ninja, heh. Threw some "when charges full" on his flasks. I ran some t16s, including a t16 60% deli rare map, and crushed it. Did better than my current character would have. I changed literally nothing. He does have clusters. Even though my current guy has max block, 84 evade, 90 phys red, 12% chaos res, both around 4.2k hp... Trickster was tankier, geared towards a little but fast regenerating es, evasion,, ic-cwdt setup that I'm assuming saved me a few times where my hp looked like it bottomed out but I didn't die, and most importantly spell suppression, which I'm thinking I'll never make a character without it max (or near) again. TR Trickster was such a reliable and common build for so long, and now it seems dead, I just expected to get flattened. Maybe it's not bad, just other stronger builds, and people are bored of it?
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# ? May 22, 2022 06:04 |
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Toxic Rain should still be rock solid, it's just not the meta.
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# ? May 22, 2022 06:07 |
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TR is still fine, trickster is less fine. Pathfinder, raider, champion, or occultist are all better ascendancies for it.
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# ? May 22, 2022 06:17 |
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Are there any guides out for how to get the best results out of the recombiners?
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# ? May 22, 2022 07:03 |
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TR is far from dead but in my opinion focusing on actual poison damage will do more for you, using PConc or scourge arrow or helix or something. But it probably is the better chaos attack if you're not Pathfinder. I just don't know why you'd play trickster these days lol.
Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 07:14 on May 22, 2022 |
# ? May 22, 2022 07:12 |
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victrix posted:I'm trying to do map roll filters using https://poe.re/#/maps This does not work unless you pick up and drop each of the maps in the tab before entering the regex
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# ? May 22, 2022 07:23 |
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These are the adventures of Explosive Trap Minetrapper, this time on a Saboteur and not a Scion. 19.5m hp from Maven in 0.3s: https://i.imgur.com/ewHB1oj.mp4 Uber Shaper: https://i.imgur.com/ypkYVCZ.mp4 I think at this point the only realistic upgrades are mirror-tier one-handers with +1/+1 that I have no idea how to craft, each of which cost more than the entire build. Otherwise I think this is the most damage I've ever dealt.
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# ? May 22, 2022 07:47 |
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^^^ That's a lot of damage! Does throwing your mines as traps deal more dps somehow? Maybe it's easier to extend the chains? kater posted:I'm no expert at this but just throwing in a mediocre +1 fire skills multimod sceptre instead of your current one increases rf dmg by 15%. you can easily craft it by doing the +1 gems recipe and then alt spam for a blue +dot or +fire dot or +1 all spell and then recombinater them and multimod fire dmg or whatever is missing. I was confused until I realized you were saying to craft two scepters before mashing them together. McFrugal fucked around with this message at 13:07 on May 22, 2022 |
# ? May 22, 2022 10:24 |
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I took the time down to 3.5s. It's probably possible to do much faster with the same build depending on the spread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ybM8USuU0 McFrugal posted:^^^ If timed right there are essentially two chains that follow. It's very hard to predict the damage. The mines are adding (17*2%)*(1 + 1.5 (Demolitions Specialist) + 0.18 (Charisma) + 0.06 (Influence small node) + 0.1 (Sovereignty)) for 97%. Coupled with a 5% double damage from Lethal Pride, I have up to 100% double damage under ideal circumstances, which uh, never happen. Each trap is doing 3.5m damage per explosion right now. For the sake of comparison, they were doing 450k~ on the Ascendant last league. The potential damage from all the first 24 traps is 1.1b. It's possible to increase that by another 40% or more if I had some intensely broken weapons. Elentor fucked around with this message at 10:50 on May 22, 2022 |
# ? May 22, 2022 10:45 |
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Excuse me but shaper was supposed to take 70% less damage in that clip not 70% more. For making the super weapon, maybe fool around with recombiners? those seem to spit some really absurd items but I've no idea how to use them properly and what the odds are of hitting the mods you want. Though at that point you don't really need much more damage do you? how's the map clear on that or is it purely for boss murderizing?
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# ? May 22, 2022 11:44 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Excuse me but shaper was supposed to take 70% less damage in that clip not 70% more. I've tried twice. I had 2 +1/+1 with a lot of spell damage and was trying to combine them with other goodies with +1 and crit mul. End result: a +1 with spell damage I'm using now, and a complete garbage. The good ones are a 20% upgrade over my gear but they cost 50-90 ex. I'm making 4-5 ex an hour farming Uber bosses, but also I have to work on another ARPG so there's only so much ARPG one can take. Unrelated, I did just find a way to increase FPS on Last Epoch by 100% in the heaviest area in the game. I actually came up with the solution while playing PoE and looking at what it did wrong lol. The good part of playing a game that has essentially the same core genre of what you're working on is that you sort of cannibalize gameplay into work.
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# ? May 22, 2022 11:48 |
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I'm glad you were able to get your hands on a ARPG engine to tinker on if GGG were going to overlook what you could do for them. Haven't played last epoch myself but hopefully it gets it's time to shine.
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# ? May 22, 2022 11:53 |
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i ripped more tonight to random effigy or drought bringer mobs than i did to the several red 60% delerium maps I ran. now, my build is advertised as a delerium runner, and since poison pf damage basically scales with pack size, that is kind of it's ideal circumstance. but boy are Archnem mods really starting to piss me off lol. I had the broken ones brick 3 blight maps today too before I just gave up and blocked it on Atlas.
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# ? May 22, 2022 12:00 |
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How does Effigy work exactly? It sounds like it get summoned by the mob, it taunts, and then you take damage when monsters attack it. Is there anything you can do about that?
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# ? May 22, 2022 13:09 |
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McFrugal posted:How does Effigy work exactly? It sounds like it get summoned by the mob, it taunts, and then you take damage when monsters attack it. Is there anything you can do about that? If you run away far enough you don't take the reflect damage anymore. But... The rare that summons it gets taunted too, so if you don't immediately explode, they tend to just stay where it was. And the stupid rear end unlink distance is basically a screen length, so... Frequently you break aggro once the totem is gone. I guess the real counter play is to be bows.
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# ? May 22, 2022 13:16 |
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McFrugal posted:How does Effigy work exactly? It sounds like it get summoned by the mob, it taunts, and then you take damage when monsters attack it. Is there anything you can do about that? It's reflected damage so the normal stuff works: Reflect reduction/immunity, evasion for attacks, armour for physical damage, suppression for spells etc. And you can run away to break the link.
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# ? May 22, 2022 13:35 |
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victrix posted:I'm trying to do map roll filters using https://poe.re/#/maps If anything, this league made me appreciate my regex mastery after my first real job doing clearinghouse processing finding issues in giant 6 gigabyte zipped text files (vim will crash and die if not configured correctly) via egrep. also me assuming ownership on an ancient perl program to extract data or certain clients. when a scripting language loops can be built with regexs , you kinda have to know it
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# ? May 22, 2022 15:12 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vc5tXJPpR4 Another banger
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# ? May 22, 2022 15:33 |
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EVIL Gibson posted:also me assuming ownership on an ancient perl program to extract data or certain clients. when a scripting language loops can be built with regexs , you kinda have to know it I'm sorry for your loss, and wish you good luck during these trying times.
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# ? May 22, 2022 15:36 |
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EVIL Gibson posted:If anything, this league made me appreciate my regex mastery after my first real job doing clearinghouse processing finding issues in giant 6 gigabyte zipped text files (vim will crash and die if not configured correctly) via egrep. I've flirted with regex in my ongoing quest to Work Lazier and just reading this made my soul leave my body
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# ? May 22, 2022 15:51 |
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Anybody else running a minion build think the blue bros are just too drat finicky to bother with? Minions will kill half the pack before the drat thing even deploys
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# ? May 22, 2022 18:09 |
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Lib and let die posted:I've flirted with regex in my ongoing quest to Work Lazier and just reading this made my soul leave my body things got much better with online regex testers but still, it's a lot to even know regex can even do to appreciate it (hint: it's more than what you've see already) xZAOx posted:I'm sorry for your loss, and wish you good luck during these trying times. this was in 2008 so I am not doing that poo poo anymore. now telling devs to get hosed with proof when they decide to use horrible libraries EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 18:15 on May 22, 2022 |
# ? May 22, 2022 18:09 |
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It really is an entirely different game if you have a group of 6+ people all focused on min/maxing loot gain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINCW1miVFg&t=1256s
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# ? May 22, 2022 18:38 |
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EVIL Gibson posted:this was in 2008 so I am not doing that poo poo anymore. now telling devs to get hosed with proof when they decide to use horrible libraries Did you ever hear the tragedy of left-pad? In POE talk - after loving around on my TR Trickster in standard last night (who I gave spell supp), I swapped up some things on my sentinel champ and went from 28 to 47% spell suppression. Maybe it's just random luck, but I ran like 5-6 maps like I normally would, and I'm way tankier. I don't hate gearing for defenses, but it really feels like since the 3.15 rework, the direction has really kept steering to less and less diversity. Spell supp feels mandatory now. Used to be more if you wanted to push bosses or high simu maybe, but now bosses are more important, and esp now with rare/magic packs being nastier, you need spell supp plus probably 2-3 other layers. Flasks feels very much "that's where you get ailment immunity" (or use purity). Tend to run defensive flasks in general over dps ones. Run 1-2 defensive auras, maybe more, so gotta get mana reservation efficiency. Just feeling a little more samey as defenses become more and more important to the game. Maybe I just need a POE break, or balance changes in 3.19 can change it up. But just feels like 90% of stuff is dedicated to the same defensive gearing.
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# ? May 22, 2022 18:38 |
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Scorching Ray should inflict scorch. It's weird that it doesn't.
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# ? May 22, 2022 18:57 |
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Decided to start up a 2nd character and hoo boy it's going well. Doing Herald of Agony Storm Rain Champion. I'm really tanky with permanent fortify and a load of ailment avoid and spell suppress while scorpion friend nukes packs. Also get to use Quill Rain forever which is my favorite stupid gimmick unique. Will be cheap to scale too since. A couple of pieces are 1ex at most.
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# ? May 22, 2022 19:04 |
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xZAOx posted:Did you ever hear the tragedy of left-pad? I have and so did Facebook, Twitter, and hundreds of others!
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# ? May 22, 2022 19:17 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Scorching Ray should inflict scorch. It's weird that it doesn't. GGG forgot old skills existed. They especially don't remember that channels exist except for cyclone, which they hate
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# ? May 22, 2022 20:11 |
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Really happy of this music edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UleAtZ_v73s
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# ? May 22, 2022 20:19 |
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WTF BEES posted:Anybody else running a minion build think the blue bros are just too drat finicky to bother with? Minions will kill half the pack before the drat thing even deploys I pop them on strongboxes. Clear around the box, deploy it before you trigger the box. Elentor posted:I think at this point the only realistic upgrades are mirror-tier one-handers with +1/+1 that I have no idea how to craft, each of which cost more than the entire build. Otherwise I think this is the most damage I've ever dealt. +1/+1 to what exactly?
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# ? May 22, 2022 20:42 |
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mynnna posted:+1/+1 to what exactly? +1 [your spell's school] gems/+1 all spell gems, presumably mashed together with a recombinator +1 all spells on 1h weapons is 2-3ex due to people trying to do this, same with +1 all skill gems on amulets
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# ? May 22, 2022 20:49 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 17:14 |
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WTF BEES posted:Anybody else running a minion build think the blue bros are just too drat finicky to bother with? Minions will kill half the pack before the drat thing even deploys It's not bad with skele mages, I usually pop it on strongboxes or fully spawned expeditions. But skele mages are more like totems than traditional minions
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# ? May 22, 2022 21:47 |