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The holodeck is only a blowjob machine with the safeties off. Otherwise you cant actually make contact with the forcefield. I bet only senior staff have access. Harry kim and the rest of the lower decks have to make do with holo dating simulator.
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Poke Chop posted:The holodeck is only a blowjob machine with the safeties off. Otherwise you cant actually make contact with the forcefield. I bet only senior staff have access. Harry kim and the rest of the lower decks have to make do with holo dating simulator. The safeties augment the existing forces at play to keep participants from injury, it does not not remove them altogether. The impact of a fall might be lessened, and a phaser blast much more so. Also, some scenarios might be considered too dangerous to simulate by the failsafes, but significant flexibility has been demonstrated. Personal combat is well within tolerances, as is imprisonment. A lot of what you interact with in the holodeck is for all intents and purposes real matter, safeties or not, but only there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwtVz7z0wM
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Poke Chop posted:The doctor presumably boned his holo-wife Yeah I'm pretty sure he tells Holo-Andy Dick that he upgraded himself so he can gently caress now.
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This is a pretty gross episode but I think it's still worth gritting one's teeth for to see Picard's turn at the end. (Though I think the episode went a little long and it should have ended with Kamala leaving his quarters having given her revelation, or maybe just with Picard silently looking on at a truncated, less cartoonish wedding scene). So, when my college-aged daughter requested to watch a few more TNGs over the break last Christmas, I gave her the warning and queued this one up. I totally had forgotten about Riker and this clip and just lost it at "...Holodeck 4." It was "I'll be in my bunk" before there even was a Firefly.
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Yeah there's gonna be some bonin' going on in Holodeck 4....trombonin'
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Admiralty Flag posted:Picard's turn at the end. What do you mean? I think you posted about it before, but I forgot what your point was. I just rewatched it and expected there to be something redeemable about Picards interaction with her, but it is sort of the opposite; Not satisfied with merely treating her as a sexual object, something Kamala demonstrates she is perfectly capable of handling, Picards obsession with his own image, ego really, is so absolute that he essentially forces her to imprint on him before the ceremony and live out her life unsatisfied, forever pining for him, but bound by the same strict devotion to duty he imagines himself embodying. The line she delivers about preferring the person she is when she is with him, that is Picards fantasy, and not being able to do anything but fulfilling it she dooms herself. thotsky fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 19, 2022 |
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thotsky posted:What do you mean? I think you posted about it before, but I forgot what your point was. My take on the episode, and this is a key difference from your interpretation, is that Picard didn't realize that she was imprinting on him. I have to believe that if Picard for a moment believed that she would imprint upon him he would have turned her away as determinedly as he could. But that's my interpretation of the episode and the character. Of course, because of the imprinting, her life will now be a tragedy because of it (due to her incompatibility with her new spouse, but having to fake it for the sake of peace). And in that sacrifice we see her make, we gain an additional understanding of Picard's character, namely how deep his devotion to duty and decorum is, for she will be able to make this sacrifice due to her assumption of Picard's character. We also see how terribly sad he is because of this: for himself because he's lost by some definitions the perfect mate (see what I did there?); for her that she must enter this political, loveless marriage. As to the line about preferring the person she is when she is with him -- that could be taken in either light. Naturally, once she's imprinted upon him, she has to prefer the person she is when she is with him. Now I sorta need to take a shower, having thought about this episode so much. It's not only gross now, it was gross when it first aired; I had forgotten how much in the thirty years between seeing it originally and this last winter. But as to poignant Picard moments, I rank this up there with the tear during his transformation into Locutus.
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Admiralty Flag posted:My take on the episode, and this is a key difference from your interpretation, is that Picard didn't realize that she was imprinting on him. I have to believe that if Picard for a moment believed that she would imprint upon him he would have turned her away as determinedly as he could. But that's my interpretation of the episode and the character. I don't think it matters if he realized it or not. He should have. I don't think there is any doubt that he was aware that he was playing with fire, they go back and forth plenty, and ultimately he must have wanted her to do so, otherwise I don't think she would have; she was perfectly clear in what her role was when she came on board. Is he sad? That non-answer he gives the old Ambassador Briam at the end when he asks how Picard resisted seems almost smug or nonchalant. I would be much happier with the episode if Picard was haunted in that moment; that is what would make sense for the character. The tragic outcome is a direct result of his big character flaw, his ego, but he is ultimately an honorable man. The omission of any sort of real reflection on the outcome is what makes me write the episode off as just a bad episode. It feels to me like there are traces of Vertigo in this episode, but they don't really give that part of Kamalas dynamic enough room, using her mostly for cheap gags and tawdry thrills. thotsky fucked around with this message at 21:45 on May 19, 2022 |
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One funny thing about watching Voyager for the first time almost 30 years later is that while they pose the characters as very enlightened and evolved (and to be fair, they were in like 1996), they say poo poo all the time that makes me go "that'd never fly today." Like Chakotay's fake Indian poo poo or Kes being TWO
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zoux posted:One funny thing about watching Voyager for the first time almost 30 years later is that while they pose the characters as very enlightened and evolved (and to be fair, they were in like 1996), they say poo poo all the time that makes me go "that'd never fly today." Like Chakotay's fake Indian poo poo or Kes being TWO Chakotay's fake Indian poo poo shouldn't have flown back then either, Jamake Highwater was outed as a fraud a decade before they hired him to advise on Chakotay.
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thotsky posted:Is he sad? That non-answer he gives the old Ambassador Briam at the end when he asks how Picard resisted seems almost smug or nonchalant. I would be much happier with the episode if Picard was haunted in that moment; that is what would make sense for the character. As to your other points, I agree, he probably should have known he was playing with fire but on a meta-level, how else was she going to imprint on him? Plus I sort of get the frisson of the temptation but not wanting to act on it. And Kamala is used for gags and thrills, or at best a passive object of male gaze without critiquing that gaze, in the episode. Considering the episode's sensibilities toward her, mutatis mutandis, it could have been a TOS episode.
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Penitent posted:It should have been crazy old man Jellico that got blown up on the Odyssey in DS9. Actually, it was Alan Oppenheimer, aka Skeletor.
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Admiralty Flag posted:This is a pretty gross episode but I think it's still worth gritting one's teeth for to see Picard's turn at the end. (Though I think the episode went a little long and it should have ended with Kamala leaving his quarters having given her revelation, or maybe just with Picard silently looking on at a truncated, less cartoonish wedding scene). So, when my college-aged daughter requested to watch a few more TNGs over the break last Christmas, I gave her the warning and queued this one up. I totally had forgotten about Riker and this clip and just lost it at "...Holodeck 4." It was "I'll be in my bunk" before there even was a Firefly. I might be misremembering, but in one of the episodes I think they state that the Enterprise only has three holodecks, which would make this even funnier.
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Buttchocks posted:I might be misremembering, but in one of the episodes I think they state that the Enterprise only has three holodecks, which would make this even funnier. It does but they're labeled 1, 2, and 4
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nine-gear crow posted:Half of Enterprise Season 3 is also completely disposable wheel-spinning garbage there to pad out the season and fill 24 episodes of time. There’s like barely 8 episodes to the proper Xindi arc, 9 if you include Similitude because it’s just that drat good even if it is a bottle episode. Ahem, the planet of the Cowboy people was integral to the Xindi storyline!
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Angry Salami posted:Ahem, the planet of the Cowboy people was integral to the Xindi storyline! Reed shooting T’Pol and shrugging is a top 10 hilarious Trek moment.
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The cowboy planet was great because it was an updated take on the classic TOS here's some sets and costumes from a movie that just finished episodes.
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Oh, it just occurred to me that the holodeck was supposed to be the means through which "Planet Prohibition-era Chicago" would be created
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zoux posted:Oh, it just occurred to me that the holodeck was supposed to be the means through which "Planet Prohibition-era Chicago" would be created Wait, what? If you're referring to A Piece of the Action, Sigma Iotia II is that way because the crew of the Horizon left a book about 1920s Chicago mobs there a hundred years prior.
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Eimi posted:The cowboy planet was great because it was an updated take on the classic TOS here's some sets and costumes from a movie that just finished episodes. I loved that one because it proved phaser beams can't penetrate troughs of water any more effectively than bullets from a cowboy's revolver
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Here's a Voyager question: They are constantly not at warp. I get that they're still SF nerds who have to look at every cool star and investigate every anomaly, but they actually seem to do very little travelling back to the AQ, the ship is always at impulse. Is there a technobabble reason for it or is it just writers ignoring the premise of their show
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HD DAD posted:Reed shooting T’Pol and shrugging is a top 10 hilarious Trek moment. POP QUIZ, HOTSHOT
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zoux posted:Here's a Voyager question: They are constantly not at warp. I get that they're still SF nerds who have to look at every cool star and investigate every anomaly, but they actually seem to do very little travelling back to the AQ, the ship is always at impulse. Is there a technobabble reason for it or is it just writers ignoring the premise of their show I assume we only check in on them when they find something worth stopping for (by their standards).
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It's because comping in the warp speed stars in all the windows all the time would have been too expensive.
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zoux posted:Here's a Voyager question: They are constantly not at warp. I get that they're still SF nerds who have to look at every cool star and investigate every anomaly, but they actually seem to do very little travelling back to the AQ, the ship is always at impulse. Is there a technobabble reason for it or is it just writers ignoring the premise of their show Its the same dilemma than what ENT had in the early seasons; we only get to tune in when Archer and his crew cocks up something. Although they did send a first contact mission out without anyone who is actually any good at diplomacy so we still can assume that we see most of their attempts. I mean, there wasn't exactly many episodes where they can call to someone that liked them to ask for help or instructions, or just general ideas.
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Just saw the one with the giant flying viruses and you KNOW who wrote that teleplay. It started out real cool and they had Janeway going full Ripley and the doc recounting his first away mission and then it just petered out among some terrible cgi polygons. Fuckin langoliers-rear end motw. But, like another episode using one of Braga's notorious scripts, very good job from the makeup effects department.
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zoux posted:Here's a Voyager question: They are constantly not at warp. I get that they're still SF nerds who have to look at every cool star and investigate every anomaly, but they actually seem to do very little travelling back to the AQ, the ship is always at impulse. Is there a technobabble reason for it or is it just writers ignoring the premise of their show The implication is that Voyager spends several weeks at high warp between episodes and each individual episode is just "some things that happen whenever Voyager takes a pit stop or a pee break". There are multiple episodes that begin with Voyager dropping out of warp and Janeway going "Captain's log: we picked up some weird signal after three days at warp and decided to stop and check it out."
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I picked up the 50th anniversary movie Blu-Rays and put on TMP with the intention of just watching some 1080p starship porn, and ended up sitting though the whole drat thing for like the 20th time. Red Letter Media was kinda right: it's boring, but good boring. It has the willingness to say "here's some weird trippy poo poo the like of which you've never seen before and will never see again, and you're gonna stare at it in bewildered astonishment just like your heroes." And the BR lets you see all the stuff you never noticed before, like the bolts holding the plexiglass panels around the warp core together. Or the loving CREEPY face looking out of a porthole as Kirk and Scotty's pod docks. It's like Jason Vorhees made it to space decades before Jason X.  And as I've got older, I've come to realise: everyone's weird coldness and distance, the very thing the film was often criticised for, is 100% on the ball. You're unexpectedly back with your former workmates after a long gap in a high-pressure situation - yeah, things are going to be awkward. And oh hey, your old best friends are here, but you haven't spoken to them in over two years and one doesn't want to be there and the other has been off on some bizarre religious pilgrimage. You don't just get to slot back in as if you never left. But by the end... everybody's in sync again. The gang's back together. It's a film that grows with age. And weirdly... it was good to see the theatrical release again, for all its flaws. It's slow and bloated and misses numerous opportunities to make its emotional point. But it's the version I remember, now crisp and ultra-detailed. The 70s never looked better. Godspeed, you crazy experiment that will never be repeated.
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Payndz posted:Or the loving CREEPY face looking out of a porthole as Kirk and Scotty's pod docks. It's like Jason Vorhees made it to space decades before Jason X. I didn't know wtf you were talking about so i looked it up and lol 
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In ST:LD (canon), Mariner has to clean the waste filter which Dr. T'iana says is mostly c*m. Canon.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:In ST:LD (canon), Mariner has to clean the waste filter which Dr. T'iana says is mostly c*m. Canon. Blue Stripe: The Life and Times of a Holodeck Janitor
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Tighclops posted:I loved that one because it proved phaser beams can't penetrate troughs of water any more effectively than bullets from a cowboy's revolver does this mean that levitating a a slab of water around yourself could be an effective scifi shield, if nothing else, one of those weird tricks to get a few moments of tricking the Borg?
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nine-gear crow posted:The implication is that Voyager spends several weeks at high warp between episodes and each individual episode is just "some things that happen whenever Voyager takes a pit stop or a pee break". should've been a yearlong episode, the opposite of year of hell, where they go weeks and then months without detecting any weird poo poo or anything at all, just a massively boring void and they get desperate to stop to investigate anything, they'd all abandon ship to party on a tiny asteroid if they found one but they encounter no matter at all for increasingly longer. people start to feel cabin fever, but nothing weird goes on, no tensions erupt, everything operates so smoothly and normally everyone solves their tension in holodecks, but somehow that makes them even more sick of things -- but still even when people are snapping things get fixed and resolved so fast everything is basically normal. They're so desperate for anything to go wrong so it can be interesting again, but they're hamstrung by their own resilient status-quo maintenance
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Khanstant posted:does this mean that levitating a a slab of water around yourself could be an effective scifi shield, if nothing else, one of those weird tricks to get a few moments of tricking the Borg? Using water as a prism to refract beams away from you
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Actual Satan posted:I didn't know wtf you were talking about so i looked it up and lol <To AD> Sound's in frame.
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From Picard's point of view in Emissary, Sisko met with him, very aggro, told him he didn't want the posting at DS9, and then a few days later when the wormhole became a thing, was very enthusiastic about it. He didn't witness any of thr character growth in the wormhole or anything. Im surprised Picard didn't report him to Starfleet as a glory chaser.
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Charity Porno posted:From Picard's point of view in Emissary, Sisko met with him, very aggro, told him he didn't want the posting at DS9, and then a few days later when the wormhole became a thing, was very enthusiastic about it. He didn't witness any of thr character growth in the wormhole or anything. 'I was pulled out of normal space time by an alien intelligence and had an experience that has changed me forever' -something that Picard could never understand or empathize with Fake edit: looked it up, emissary is after inner light (and BoBW, natch) but before tapestry and generations. Just how many subjective lifetimes has Picard gone through? Lets add in the serek mind meld and his confederate alt-history.. no wonder he repressed his childhood, there's no room left in his dummy robot head.
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It's almost 3pm. I'm gonna watch me a star trek at the movies.
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A.o.D. posted:It's almost 3pm. I'm gonna watch me a star trek at the movies. ADMIRAL! THERE BE WHALES HERE!
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