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doverhog posted:Flight attendant or massage therapist on a private plane that also will gently caress you is a real job, and sex work is work. Outrage at that reality should be directed at the capitalist system in which informed consent is often impossible, on purpose, because it benefits capital to exploit workers. No I think outrage should be directed at the guy who sexually harassed his employee
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That too, but it was implied in the second sentence, for a spicier take.
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I hope that not only he suffers I hope that everyone who likes him suffers because it's fun to see people I hate be miserable and there's a lot of weird internet nerds that love him because libertarian tech bro hope nonsense.
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Musk has accomplished so much for the world Such as *checks notes* hmm
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doverhog posted:Flight attendant or massage therapist on a private plane that also will gently caress you is a real job, and sex work is work. Outrage at that reality should be directed at the capitalist system in which informed consent is often impossible, on purpose, because it benefits capital to exploit workers. This was kind of poorly worded. It is possible to consent to work, even in a capitalist system, because you have weighed the options and it is the best one you can find. Often though this is not the case and active consent has not been established.
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doverhog posted:Flight attendant or massage therapist on a private plane that also will gently caress you is a real job, and sex work is work. Outrage at that reality should be directed at the capitalist system in which informed consent is often impossible, on purpose, because it benefits capital to exploit workers. Uhh
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Does this description of "reality" make you uncomfortable?
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It's a weird post that makes you look weird hth.
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It is still internally consistent to believe that a) sex work is work and b) being pressured toward unagreed to sex work is sexual harassment Hope this helps you doverhog. Alternate post: Doverhog more like show 'er hog.
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Captain Monkey posted:Doverhog more like show 'er hog.
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That's a mischaracterization of what I meant (or if honest misunderstanding, sorry), and alsoveni veni veni posted:you look weird hth. I thought this ship had sailed years ago. 
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I'm starting to think everyone who suggests that humans as a species dying is a good thing should volunteer to die immediately Nothing of value would be lost and the world would be one unit closer to that person's goal
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doverhog posted:Does this description of "reality" make you uncomfortable? i dont think i even need to reply posting the word "capitalism" should just be bannable at this point. it's just a meaningless catchall when goons say it, and that post is a perfect example of why
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That's just a lazy refusal to look at the fundamental reasons why the world is the way it is, or people do the things they do. (and I know this is d&d stuff, and shouldn't be pursued here)
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Shibawanko posted:i dont think i even need to reply This would be a really lame reason to ban people
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doverhog posted:That's just a lazy refusal to look at the fundamental reasons why the world is the way it is, or people do the things they do. (and I know this is d&d stuff, and shouldn't be pursued here) no it's pseud stuff. it means almost nothing the way you used it, and what you tried to say by it was crazy and stupid. you're not alone though because this is the case for nearly every poster who regularly uses that word
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Also even if I agree with the basic sentiment, almost anytime I see people parrot the catchphrase "sex work is work" they always seem do it while they are being weird/annoying, usually both at the same time.
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Shibawanko posted:no it's pseud stuff. it means almost nothing the way you used it, and what you tried to say by it was crazy and stupid. you're not alone though because this is the case for nearly every poster who regularly uses that word What word would you use otherwise? Or do you think using words to describe systems is somehow out of bounds? Should we not use Monarchy either?
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veni veni veni posted:Also even if I agree with the basic sentiment, almost anytime I see people parrot the catchphrase "sex work is work" they always seem do it while they are being weird/annoying, usually both at the same time. Are you calling me a weird annoying parrot? That's rude. If you want you can engage with the argument, rather than whatever this is. *and that goes for Shibawanko too
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Robobot posted:Unpopular opinion: I kinda like Teslas. I think they’re kinda cool in that people are allowed to buy and operate concept cars with unproven technology. In about 15 years I bet the cars are gonna be really good. A few dead drivers is a small price to pay for a future with Johnny Cabs and all cars able to go 0-60 in 4 seconds. In a way they are kind of mass market Homer Simpson cars, but I love them and would buy one if I had a house to charge it and made more money. Well and if they would put a public charger in North East Arizona, my favorite place to do a mini road trip to.
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Josef bugman posted:What word would you use otherwise? Or do you think using words to describe systems is somehow out of bounds? Should we not use Monarchy either? no, just put a sock in it. it's all been said before, everyone already knows, and you're not saying anything new. if you think you have something new to say about it, go write a peer reviewed dissertation about it, but since most people who talk about it on this forum have model train sets for brains it's unlikely they have something new to say. at this point it's just another catchphrase like saying "sheeple" or "sever" used to be
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Rick posted:In a way they are kind of mass market Homer Simpson cars, but I love them and would buy one if I had a house to charge it and made more money. Well and if they would put a public charger in North East Arizona, my favorite place to do a mini road trip to. i want an electric car man but i just want it to be smaller. i don't get why they need to be huge sedans instead of hatchbacks
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doverhog posted:Are you calling me a weird annoying parrot? That's rude. If you want you can engage with the argument, rather than whatever this is. What is the argument? There's no argument to engage with lol. No I am not calling you anything, but you did make a post that inspired me to mention it and you seem to already know you make some weird posts so...
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veni veni veni posted:What is the argument? That under capitalism informed consent is often impossible, on purpose, because it benefits capital to exploit workers. It is possible to consent to work, even in a capitalist system, because you have weighed the options and it is the best one you can find. Often though this is not the case and active consent has not been established.
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Shibawanko posted:no, just put a sock in it. it's all been said before, everyone already knows, and you're not saying anything new. if you think you have something new to say about it, go write a peer reviewed dissertation about it, but since most people who talk about it on this forum have model train sets for brains it's unlikely they have something new to say. at this point it's just another catchphrase like saying "sheeple" or "sever" used to be So "I'm bored and stop talking about it because I've heard all of it" essentially? That seems kind of silly tbh, but I suppose this is unpopular.
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doverhog posted:That under capitalism informed consent is often impossible, on purpose, because it benefits capital to exploit workers. Me calling you weird for saying weird poo poo all the time isn't part of whatever argument you think you are having.
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That wasn't the disputed part, but I guess it was directed more at shibawanko anyway.
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sex work is work sex workers deserve rights, including unionisation, legalisation, regulation, and healthcare a fuckton of jobs under capitalism are very literally wage slavery, and most people are not able to choose their job because if they try to do that they will starve and die companies cannot make money without paying people less than they are worth ------- I don't think any of these things are in dispute because there's been about 100 years of proving the latter two things (Like, they are how a capitalist system is able to function), and the former two things tangibly create better outcomes for people doing sex work, rather than pretending that nobody does it and arresting them and fining them for doing that work, which puts them at risk for seeking help if they end up in danger or at risk of harm, and makes them unable to access legal retribution in the event that they are assaulted or abused Like if you disagree, that's fair enough, but I do not particularly want to hear your half baked opinions and the feeble attempts to disprove these things, so just keep it to yourself alexandriao has a new favorite as of 09:37 on May 22, 2022 |
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alexandriao posted:sex work is work lol it's like you exclusively exist to prove the points made by others in this thread
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So are we staying that no one should have to work if they don’t want to? Because I like that idea, but that ain’t how the world works right now. Or probably ever. That’s some Star Trek levels of fiction there.
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Robobot posted:So are we staying that no one should have to work if they don’t want to? Because I like that idea, but that ain’t how the world works right now. Maybe there'd be people who didn't want to work at all and who had no desire to be useful or productive. And they'd probably have no friends and be miserable, because no matter how you structure society you can't force people to like each other.
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A good burger is beef and a bun. Nothing else. If you're using lower quality meat patty melt type things or beef sandwiches are fine. But stuff like bacon and sauces can ruin good burgers.
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FishBulbia posted:A good burger is beef and a bun. Nothing else. Absolute freak poo poo.
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Gripweed posted:Absolute freak poo poo. Again, nothing wrong with saucing it all up and cheese if the meat is not particularly fatty but with some good ground beef -- salt, pepper, garlic powder. toasted bun. try it!
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I like a little grainy mustard but no ketchup. The special sauce at places like In N Out is revoltingly sweet and disgusts me. Same with orange chicken at Panda Express.
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Mu Zeta posted:I like a little grainy mustard but no ketchup. The special sauce at places like In N Out is revoltingly sweet and disgusts me. Same with orange chicken at Panda Express. I can vibe with a bit of mustard on the bun. I think ketchup is the biggest offender though. Big fan of mayo or ketchup with fries though.
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FishBulbia posted:A good burger is beef and a bun. Nothing else. I very much agree
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Shibawanko posted:i want an electric car man but i just want it to be smaller. i don't get why they need to be huge sedans instead of hatchbacks You should check out the Nisan Leaf or Ioniq 5 as they are hatchbacks. Kind of. The batteries are still big enough that it makes them look kind of weird to fit it. The Leaf is probably the best car when you factor in price and I think the assist mode is probably what most people want as opposed to self-drive (which I think is cool but seems to turn a lot of people off).
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FishBulbia posted:A good burger is beef and a bun. Nothing else. I bought a burger from a garage side shop the other day, it was £3 and the driest burger i've ever eaten in my life, no cheese, no sauce, no vegetables, but y'know what I enjoyed it and I'd do it again
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