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Mr. Wiggles posted:Would buy a brand new 2CV rn and be very happy. I do wonder if that philosophy was done with modern design and materials would be like, without trying to go insanely cheap that ruins good designs.
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KakerMix posted:I do wonder if that philosophy was done with modern design and materials would be like, without trying to go insanely cheap that ruins good designs. The current modern 2CV (aka the cheapest vehicle you can make while not being a horse cart) is the Citroen ami, which seems to have been a decent success in the markets where it got launched.
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Ok what are the chances a 2CV can actually reach 71.5 mph?
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mobby_6kl posted:Ok what are the chances a 2CV can actually reach 71.5 mph? Very few unless assisted by gravity and external power
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May 22, 2022 18:41
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30 mph tail wind
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KakerMix posted:I do wonder if that philosophy was done with modern design and materials would be like, without trying to go insanely cheap that ruins good designs. It pretty much couldn't be done today as a proper car without ruining everything that made a 2CV a 2CV due to all the requirements modern cars need to adhere to. Even if they could I've got no doubt the design committee would miss the point entirely.
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If you want a small, slow, miserable vehicle why not buy a Mirage?
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I've always been disappointed Mitsubishi hasn't marketed "Illusion", "hallucination", or "apparition".
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May 22, 2022 20:07
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I saw an i-miev the other day and had to do a double take. I had never seen one besides the Goose channel.
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May 22, 2022 20:11
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KakerMix posted:I do wonder if that philosophy was done with modern design and materials would be like, without trying to go insanely cheap that ruins good designs. 
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The nano fail the insanely cheap metric, that thing is worse than a quadricycle grade vehicle while being sold as a car. SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 22, 2022 |
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May 22, 2022 20:26
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Would. I've seen one in person, maybe the only driving one in the US at Lane Motor Museum. It's 90% as good as a car as a Mitsubishi Mirage or 70% of a civic, but for like $2500 out the door. Inflation adjusted, it is 1/4 the price of the cheapest the VW beetle ever was, or 1/8 the price of a Model T. There has never been a car near this cheap.
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May 22, 2022 20:28
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SlowBloke posted:The current modern 2CV (aka the cheapest vehicle you can make while not being a horse cart) is the Citroen ami, which seems to have been a decent success in the markets where it got launched. ehh the ami is under quadricycle rules, i don't think it counts
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:ehh the ami is under quadricycle rules, i don't think it counts If Dacias didn't currently cost as much as their Renault counterparts, i would have picked one of those, there are not many cars that don't cost an arm and leg nowadays. Even a cargo grade panda starts at 13k€.
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May 22, 2022 20:58
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Yeah I was going to suggest Dacia. Probably the best bang for the buck these days. The basic Sandero is less than 10k€. The 7-seater Jogger is advertized as 14900€ at a base price.
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bad_fmr posted:Yeah I was going to suggest Dacia. Probably the best bang for the buck these days. The basic Sandero is less than 10k€. The 7-seater Jogger is advertized as 14900€ at a base price. Good luck finding a barebone Logan or Sandero tho, no dealer stocks those, they only keep the top of the range models(which understandingly have the basic set of human comforts) and those don't run that cheap. Sometimes Suzukis are cheaper than whatever the dacia dealers offers
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Yeah that is true. And Suzuki is often great value option as well.
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I thought this was a Mitsubishi I-miev at first. https://twitter.com/GaytonaUSA/status/1519361630383050752?t=TAeoiJkub3vWjQvZIDxe-A&s=19
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KakerMix posted:I do wonder if that philosophy was done with modern design and materials would be like, without trying to go insanely cheap that ruins good designs. This is currently outselling tesla in the China market. Perfectly suited for what it is. https://youtu.be/sFSJDSh1jmE
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GlassEye-Boy posted:This is currently outselling tesla in the China market. Perfectly suited for what it is. Hell yeah, this would be it I think. Under $6,000 for that thing, and I could just do any and all errands I'd ever need to do and never stop and a gas station for the privilege. 
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KakerMix posted:Hell yeah, this would be it I think. There's the Kandi range of neighborhood vehicles but they start at $12k!
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:There's the Kandi range of neighborhood vehicles but they start at $12k! Yea, any China prices you see online your gonna have to add add at least 30% in the US to cover shipping and customs.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Yea, any China prices you see online your gonna have to add add at least 30% in the US to cover shipping and customs. That's likely why it's so much. There is a cool little truck too but I think it was $35k
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Henry Ford built the quadricycle in like 1896, are you guys sure this thing is worse than that? Sure being a Mitsubishi, it's probably less reliable, but I bet it's easier to find parts for it. And it might have a heater and ac. That's got to be a bit better right?
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wesleywillis posted:Henry Ford built the quadricycle in like 1896, are you guys sure this thing is worse than that? Sure being a Mitsubishi, it's probably less reliable, but I bet it's easier to find parts for it. And it might have a heater and ac. That's got to be a bit better right? In 1896, you weren't surrounded by F250s and Escalades barreling down the highway at 90 mph.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Well, it’s got a single speed transmission so it’s already limited by the maximum rpm of the motor and ratio of the single speed. But Ford also hosed up the power delivery so the motor will only give you those HP and torque numbers for a very short period of time at at lower speeds. Power gets drastically pulled above about 60mph. It’s designed to hit 0-60 in 3.5 seconds because that’s the number they put out there, but everywhere else it’s kind of dogshit. loving yikes. What a shame, seemed like a cool EV. I wonder how long it will take for Hyundai to put the better motors in the Ioniq 5. Looks like they already have it in the Genesis version.
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I just realized how much I want an Italian EV. 
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I just realized how much I want an Italian EV. At least you'd look good sitting on the side of the road with a dead battery and "180km range remaining" fading out on the dash.
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Powershift posted:At least you'd look good sitting on the side of the road with a dead battery and "180km range remaining" fading out on the dash. Hey now, you could get lucky and it might just not start before you try to go somewhere!
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Woolwich Bagnet posted:Hey now, you could get lucky and it might just not start before you try to go somewhere! “If you’re going to break, please break at home.” - every Italian car owner
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I'm morbidly curious how passionate (?) the Italian battery fires will be.
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Powershift posted:At least you'd look good sitting on the side of the road with a dead battery and "180km range remaining" fading out on the dash. An optimist! McTinkerson posted:I'm morbidly curious how passionate (?) the Italian battery fires will be. 
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The Fiat New 500 EV is supposed to be very nice, actually. Besides the name being "Fiat New 500."
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Fiat taking ques from Nintendo, huh?
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The Fiat 500e was a lot of fun cause it had completely unregulated power. Just roast the tires by touching the accelerator. My coworker had one and sold it, and if I didn’t rent a 130 year old house with no external outlets, I would have bought it. Fun little toy car.
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McTinkerson posted:I'm morbidly curious how passionate (?) the Italian battery fires will be. They have soul, a real je ne sais quoi. You just can't hate them and long for the day when the streets are alight with their brilliance.
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GoutPatrol posted:The Fiat New 500 EV is supposed to be very nice, actually. Besides the name being "Fiat New 500." It's decent but it's kinda tiny on the inside, smaller than a mini. Almost Suzuki cappuccino/Daihatsu copen bad depending on the driver/passenger size.
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