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Everyone posted:Though Dresden probably wouldn't make any more "gently caress me" potion but he would make cooler potions. You say that like that's not a good thing.
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We'd also have a 20 chapter dissertation on how exactly the magic works at Demonreach.
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May 23, 2022 05:25
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Kchama posted:You say that like that's not a good thing. I actually don't. "Cooler" is a positive adjective.
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May 23, 2022 06:02
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Everyone posted:I actually don't. "Cooler" is a positive adjective. My joke was that you said 'though', implying that the lack of gently caress Me potions would be bad. Sorry for being unclear.
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I would like to again say that Gareth Hanrahan's Black Iron Legacy series is a great read. It initially centers on a Steam Punk city Guerdon ruled by Alchemists who want to keep it out of the Mad Godswar that is raging across the rest of the world. Things happen, the city ends up like West Berlin cut four ways and things get interesting. The author was only contracted for a trilogy, but is working on a fourth book. Will it have an ending? Who knows. It's worth a read.
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Oh poo poo I didn’t know Hanrahan wrote fiction, he’s done some of my favorite RPG modules of all time.
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Everyone posted:Though Dresden probably wouldn't make any more "gently caress me" potion but he would make cooler potions. There hasn't been a love potion in the series since the first book, which was portrayed in a blatant "this is why Dresden has a no love potions rule, they're terrible things" way. Not only is it not a thing Dresden does, he explicitly refuses to do so if asked.
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May 23, 2022 12:08
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Everyone posted:Though Dresden probably wouldn't make any more "gently caress me" potion but he would make cooler potions. Sounds like 100% upside.
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May 23, 2022 14:48
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I figured potions went the way of the "pocket of sunshine" hanky in that the ones that would have devastating effects against forces of "evil" would require the wizard brewing them to be fully in the mindset of being "good". Sanderson would have probably come up with some much cooler potion effects that Butcher can't be hosed to even dream about, though. I mean, what did we have before they went out of use? Veil-in-a-bottle, Turn-into-Air-and-Sir-Robin-it, maybe a Restore-Mana potion at some point before that was replaced by the bear charm that was used once?
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May 23, 2022 15:18
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The stealth potion made a return in peace talks and I think there have been others even later in the series, just without the elaborate brewing scenes.
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Avalerion posted:The stealth potion made a return in peace talks and I think there have been others even later in the series, just without the elaborate brewing scenes. Yeah, but there were only the three/four effect types, right? Veil/stealth, Turn into Air and Book-It, love potion, what else? The one in Changes was a watered-down flight potion. But I think that was it?
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It is my unacknowledged headcanon that Harry drat near killing himself with a potion in Fool Moon is the reason he hasn't used them as much since then. e. biracial bear for uncut posted:Yeah, but there were only the three/four effect types, right? The Supercoffee (which came across a bit more like Wizard Meth when Harry used it). Also, I think the Third Eye drug in Storm Front was technically a potion too.
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docbeard posted:The Supercoffee (which came across a bit more like Wizard Meth when Harry used it). I thought the Third Eye drug was retconned into a Nemesis vector and not actually a drug/potion.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I thought the Third Eye drug was retconned into a Nemesis vector and not actually a drug/potion. I don't recall that but it's been a thousand years since I've read most of the books and that plot aspect bores me to tears so you could well be right.
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May 24, 2022 11:39
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I thought the Third Eye drug was retconned into a Nemesis vector and not actually a drug/potion. Vector or not it's still a drug/potion. The way I understood it was that Nemesis was the "enabler" behind Third Eye, the FBI werewolves and some of the other earlier books, not that they were specifically Outsider magic or something. I'd need to do a Dresden reread to be sure and I'm just not up to that right now.
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I'm just trying to point out that we're talking about potion use as if it was some tool that was as common as the kinetic ring or the blasting rod, when it wasn't even as regularly used as the pentacle amulet to light a dark room.
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What's out there (audiobook specifically) that's similar to the Craft Sequence by Max Gladstone? I loved how rich the world was in those books. I'd prefer stuff that is light on romance, or at least queer if it's there. I just finished the Dragon Blood audio books by Lindsay Buroker and while I enjoyed those, they were aggressively straight at points. For reference, some of other stuff I've enjoyed have been A Song of Wraiths and Ruin by Roseanne A Brown, and The Belles by Dhonielle Clayton. I guess these are more alternate world than urban fantasy exactly? But the worlds are more modern than traditional fantasy. I've listened to a bunch of Dresden Files years ago and those were fun, but protagonists who aren't straight white cis males would be more interesting.
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Have you listened to anything Schaefer has written? Not so much the standalone Harmony Black books, but the Faust, revanche cycle, and other things in that universe, plus the hungry dreaming.
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Revanche Cycle/Wisdom's Grave is definitely gay enough to pass that bar I think. Also it rules.
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Throwing that on my list then. \/\/\/ Sounds great! Soonmot fucked around with this message at 12:18 on May 28, 2022 |
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May 26, 2022 18:54
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Soonmot posted:What's out there (audiobook specifically) that's similar to the Craft Sequence by Max Gladstone? I loved how rich the world was in those books. I'd prefer stuff that is light on romance, or at least queer if it's there. I just finished the Dragon Blood audio books by Lindsay Buroker and while I enjoyed those, they were aggressively straight at points. For reference, some of other stuff I've enjoyed have been A Song of Wraiths and Ruin by Roseanne A Brown, and The Belles by Dhonielle Clayton. I guess these are more alternate world than urban fantasy exactly? But the worlds are more modern than traditional fantasy. I've listened to a bunch of Dresden Files years ago and those were fun, but protagonists who aren't straight white cis males would be more interesting. I'd check out Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London series. The protagonist is Peter Grant, a black (Sierra Leone heritage) police constable in London who becomes an apprentice wizard. The series is very minority-friendly without being self-conscious or condescending about. One character being gay and married to her wife is just one aspect of her character along with the fact that she and her wife raise chickens as a hobby. Like that.
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I'm having a time finding the answer to this, are there currently any published paperback versions of Dresden that aren't mass market paperbacks? I'm looking for trade paper back size, y'know, hardcover size but paperback. There are a few amazon entries that look different from the Roc versions you can get at Barnes and Noble and places like that. E: I know Side Jobs is in trade, I'm just not sure any of the main books are. TheWorldsaStage fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 26, 2022 |
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Never seen any in that format.
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TheWorldsaStage posted:I'm having a time finding the answer to this, are there currently any published paperback versions of Dresden that aren't mass market paperbacks? I'm looking for trade paper back size, y'know, hardcover size but paperback. There are a few amazon entries that look different from the Roc versions you can get at Barnes and Noble and places like that. Why do you want it? I can't thing of any benefit.
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Beachcomber posted:Why do you want it? I can't thing of any benefit. Trade paperbacks tend to be made with better quality paper, and tend to be a little more durable. Also the font size usually larger, so it can be easier to read.
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Thomamelas posted:Trade paperbacks tend to be made with better quality paper, and tend to be a little more durable. Also the font size usually larger, so it can be easier to read. But what benefit is that over hardback?
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Soonmot posted:What's out there (audiobook specifically) that's similar to the Craft Sequence by Max Gladstone? I loved how rich the world was in those books. I'd prefer stuff that is light on romance, or at least queer if it's there. I just finished the Dragon Blood audio books by Lindsay Buroker and while I enjoyed those, they were aggressively straight at points. For reference, some of other stuff I've enjoyed have been A Song of Wraiths and Ruin by Roseanne A Brown, and The Belles by Dhonielle Clayton. I guess these are more alternate world than urban fantasy exactly? But the worlds are more modern than traditional fantasy. I've listened to a bunch of Dresden Files years ago and those were fun, but protagonists who aren't straight white cis males would be more interesting. October Daye might fit the bill. There’s more romance as the books go on but it’s pretty light and there’s definitely lots of queer to it the farther it goes along. The books are all light, fast reads. It’s a lot like Dresden but with less lovely characters and opinions.
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Beachcomber posted:But what benefit is that over hardback? Cost. Hardcovers will be more durable than trade paperbacks, which are more durable than mass market paperbacks. Cost follows the same progression.
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Beachcomber posted:But what benefit is that over hardback? Why would I buy any Dresden Files books in Hardback? Edit: Unless they were in a Goodwill book pile and I hadn't read it yet?
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Why would I buy any Dresden Files books in Hardback? They're cheap, after market. https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=jim%20butcher&bi=h&cm_sp=sort-_-SRP-_-Results&n=100121503&sortby=17 I've never seen a Trade Paperback for Dresden Files, most likely because they're too short.
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Lawlicaust posted:October Daye might fit the bill. There’s more romance as the books go on but it’s pretty light and there’s definitely lots of queer to it the farther it goes along. The books are all light, fast reads. It’s a lot like Dresden but with less lovely characters and opinions. Oh sweet, I've read and enjoyed some of Seanan McGuire's comics
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TheWorldsaStage posted:I'm having a time finding the answer to this, are there currently any published paperback versions of Dresden that aren't mass market paperbacks? I'm looking for trade paper back size, y'know, hardcover size but paperback. I think I've seen omnibus editions in that size before, but I don't know if they kept doing that past the first couple.
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Finished Amongst Our Weapons and I have to wonder if Nightengale's bit at the end about retiring and reopening the school might be Aaronovitch's off-ramp wrt his main characters being cops.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Finished Amongst Our Weapons and I have to wonder if Nightengale's bit at the end about retiring and reopening the school might be Aaronovitch's off-ramp wrt his main characters being cops. I mean sorta, but it's also not a new development--he first mentioned it at least a couple books back (I think it was the book where Abigail started taking lessons)
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Fighting Trousers posted:Finished Amongst Our Weapons and I have to wonder if Nightengale's bit at the end about retiring and reopening the school might be Aaronovitch's off-ramp wrt his main characters being cops. It’s definitely the off-ramp to Peter being the main POV character. Peter’s character arc feels very near completion even in Amongst Our Weapons. He’s a father now. He’s decided he’s not throwing himself head first into danger anymore. He’s pretty competent as a officer, leader, and wizard. I’d imagine we get one or two more Peter PoV books at most. There’s just not much more to do with him. It would be nice to move outside the police entirely or at least to another location.
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Lawlicaust posted:It’s definitely the off-ramp to Peter being the main POV character. Peter’s character arc feels very near completion even in Amongst Our Weapons. He’s a father now. He’s decided he’s not throwing himself head first into danger anymore. He’s pretty competent as a officer, leader, and wizard. In terms of location, that smithing where Caroline is seems like an interesting one.
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Lawlicaust posted:It’s definitely the off-ramp to Peter being the main POV character. Peter’s character arc feels very near completion even in Amongst Our Weapons. He’s a father now. He’s decided he’s not throwing himself head first into danger anymore. He’s pretty competent as a officer, leader, and wizard. I feel like we're expanding the magical world rapidly, with more and more practitioners of different traditions crossing the Folly's path, as well as rediscovering other British practitioners like the Society of the Rose and the smiths. So there are definitely places to go that don't involve law enforcement. It occurs to me that we may be coming to a crisis point with Abigail, though. She's a much more natural talent than Peter, but like Lesley, she wants something from her magic - a potential cure for her brother. That could be a problem.
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Fighting Trousers posted:I feel like we're expanding the magical world rapidly, with more and more practitioners of different traditions crossing the Folly's path, as well as rediscovering other British practitioners like the Society of the Rose and the smiths. So there are definitely places to go that don't involve law enforcement. Good. Problems are good. Problems are story. That said, one huge difference between Abigail and Leslie is that Abigail's desire isn't selfish. She wants her brother to be healed for him and for her parents. I'm still not sure that Peter has put together why Abigail wants to learn magic. I think Nightingale has. I think Nightingale "gets" Abigail a lot better than Peter does.
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I do t know if "The Plague Stones" by James Brogdan is strictly urban fantasy but I liked it and wanted to share. It also has a lot of rich v poor commentary. Ghosts are real, the diocese knows, ritual magic happens under the guise of "community events"
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Azuth0667 posted:Butcher and GRRM need to sell their IP to Brandon Sanderson so the books actually get written. Nobody actually wants ASoIF books to get written. Even GRRM hates them at this point because the TV series took all the fun out of it for him and left him with just the work.
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