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I'm still waiting for the zombie apocalypse movie were people actually use their brains about dealing with the zombies. Larpers teaching people how to fight in spear formations while wearing bite-proof armour (even motorcycle leathers can't be pierced by human teeth), huge earthwork projects surrounding encampments that are unclimbable. Or maybe I just want a zombie movie that takes place in the 3rd century. Picking up a gun is a waste of time; three people with machetes and shields could clear a city given enough time.
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Like half of the reason people like zombie movies is the ironclad certainty that if they were in that position they would be able to handle it much better, zombies are the only monster literally everyone thinks they could be a badass against
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May 24, 2022 00:34
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Piell posted:Like half of the reason people like zombie movies is the ironclad certainty that if they were in that position they would be able to handle it much better, zombies are the only monster literally everyone thinks they could be a badass against I dont, id absolutely get bit within the first 5 minutes of the movie
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May 24, 2022 00:39
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Fashionable Jorts posted:I'm still waiting for the zombie apocalypse movie were people actually use their brains about dealing with the zombies. Larpers teaching people how to fight in spear formations while wearing bite-proof armour (even motorcycle leathers can't be pierced by human teeth), huge earthwork projects surrounding encampments that are unclimbable. Or maybe I just want a zombie movie that takes place in the 3rd century. isn't there a korean zombie show that's basically this? i think it's called kingdom?
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Mooseontheloose posted:Let's be fair though, the reasons zombies surged in popularity from 2001 to say 2020 was about some very latent fear about the world changing around people. Vampires had their run in 80s and 90s with the fear of STDs/changing family values and what have you. That's what horror does, reflect on society's fears Piell posted:Like half of the reason people like zombie movies is the ironclad certainty that if they were in that position they would be able to handle it much better, zombies are the only monster literally everyone thinks they could be a badass against God such wienerly posts, WOOF
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May 24, 2022 00:43
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mandatory lesbian posted:I dont, id absolutely get bit within the first 5 minutes of the movie Yeah like Dawn of the Dead where that woman gets chased by her zombie husband who like woke up dead and zombified, I'd be that guy. I'd become a zombie in my sleep without even struggling.
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May 24, 2022 00:45
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Piell posted:Like half of the reason people like zombie movies is the ironclad certainty that if they were in that position they would be able to handle it much better, zombies are the only monster literally everyone thinks they could be a badass against To "Mr. Low Taxes" of Something is Awful, I take grave offense at the libelous broadsheet recently posted on your outhouse walls. The dishonorable Mr. P---- has claimed my business to be a fraudulence, by convincing your users that gentleman cannot reliability apprehend Spring-heel'd Jacks. I have captured these sulfurous rogues atop the second story of many a London dowager, and I shall never stop these postings until I obtain satisfaction. Good day sir! 
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Fashionable Jorts posted:I'm still waiting for the zombie apocalypse movie were people actually use their brains about dealing with the zombies. Larpers teaching people how to fight in spear formations while wearing bite-proof armour (even motorcycle leathers can't be pierced by human teeth), huge earthwork projects surrounding encampments that are unclimbable. Or maybe I just want a zombie movie that takes place in the 3rd century. A big part of the horror of zombies, though, is that they're slower dumber shittier humans inferior to the average person in every way such that if people just used their heads SHOULD be defeatable with trivial ease, but it doesn't matter and they're an existential threat anyway because being competent sometimes can't overcome dumb bullshit just contantly thrown at you until you're overwhelmed in a moment of weakness.
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The entire point of the original zombie movies is that the undead aren't the real threat it's what people will do to each other in a crisis.
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May 24, 2022 01:49
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didn’t night of the living dead end with the black protagonist surviving the events of the movie only to be shot dead at the very end by a posse of white people who mistook him for a zombie?
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May 24, 2022 01:57
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Splash Attack posted:didn’t night of the living dead end with the black protagonist surviving the events of the movie only to be shot dead at the very end by a posse of white people who mistook him for a zombie? Yep and it really pissed people off.
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May 24, 2022 01:58
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I thought I had a pretty good grip on knowing short-lived '80s shows. I had not heard of this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVP-D2bmWg
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May 24, 2022 02:00
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Analytic Engine posted:To "Mr. Low Taxes" of Something is Awful, Dear sir or madam, I have unfortunate tidings RE: Mr Richard “lowtax” Kyanka’s spinal health insomuch as he is entirely without one and furthermore deceased by his own hand Stop
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May 24, 2022 02:05
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pentyne posted:The entire point of the original zombie movies is that the undead aren't the real threat it's what people will do to each other in a crisis. Wait but that's the twist to every modern prestige zombie drama...
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hawowanlawow posted:yeah seriously just dig some ditches Your ditch will eventually get filled with zombies and then where will you be? What you need is a good moat with sharks
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May 24, 2022 02:42
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Mooseontheloose posted:Let's be fair though, the reasons zombies surged in popularity from 2001 to say 2020 was about some very latent fear about the world changing around people. Vampires had their run in 80s and 90s with the fear of STDs/changing family values and what have you. That's what horror does, reflect on society's fears Vampire Diaries and True Blood, famous 90s shows. 
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Twilight with zombies
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Splash Attack posted:didn’t night of the living dead end with the black protagonist surviving the events of the movie only to be shot dead at the very end by a posse of white people who mistook him for a zombie? Funny thing is, the character wasn't written as black in the screenplay and the social commentary was just a happy accident. They just hired the black actor because he had the best audition. Edit: Absurd Alhazred posted:Vampire Diaries and True Blood, famous 90s shows. Buffy The Vampire Slayer Interview With the Vampire From Dusk 'Till Dawn Blade And, if you really wanna go there, Dracula: Dead and Loving It All 90's. Nameless Pete has a new favorite as of 03:10 on May 24, 2022 |
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Piell posted:Like half of the reason people like zombie movies is the ironclad certainty that if they were in that position they would be able to handle it much better, zombies are the only monster literally everyone thinks they could be a badass against
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Foxfire_ posted:My biggest irrational zombie "these people are idiots" peeve is the Walking Dead arc where a swarm of a few hundred zombies trap people in their heavily fortified walled town full of weapons, tools, raw materials, and a few weeks of food and water. It goes off onto a thing where the town people are despairing/hoping for outside rescue instead of "Make some long pointy sticks, everybody has a quota to poke 5 zombies a day while standing on top of the wall" what gets me is that they should just always be killing every zombie they see, and also actively hunting more zombies to kill all the time I mean, that's the end goal right?
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The Walking Dead started out strong and good and lost me after the prison had an outbreak because no one used a buddy system, oh and instead of breeding rats or something small, they go for loving pigs that they have to slaughter anyway. I still go with the idea that the Governor's Woodbury was the best place hands down. Because there is no loving way to know if those Army dudes were safe/weren't raping murderers. Woodbury had loving electricity! And since the other group leaders were insane, Rick, cannibals, or ignoring abuse, at least the Gov was easy to deal with. I want to see a zombie movie with the Amish. Or one where the only ones who are immune are crazy cat ladies because toxoplasmosis negates zombie bites.
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Brawnfire posted:Twilight with zombies Warm bodies
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The Resident Evil games are the most realistic zombie media ever made because there's constant deadly outbreaks, whole cities wiped out in days, and the world just moves on. There's no apocalypse, things just keep on going and everyone has to pretend its fine. Yeah, like 6 million people in Raccoon City just got infected with a deadly virus and then turned into nuclear ash but I can't give a poo poo about that. My boss has been snorting cattle insulin because Joe Rogan told him it cures the T-Virus and now I gotta work doubles all week. gently caress.
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CelticPredator posted:Warm bodies Wow.... Alright, I didn't know Tina Belcher made movies
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Crowetron posted:The Resident Evil games are the most realistic zombie media ever made because there's constant deadly outbreaks, whole cities wiped out in days, and the world just moves on. There's no apocalypse, things just keep on going and everyone has to pretend its fine. Yeah, like 6 million people in Raccoon City just got infected with a deadly virus and then turned into nuclear ash but I can't give a poo poo about that. My boss has been snorting cattle insulin because Joe Rogan told him it cures the T-Virus and now I gotta work doubles all week. gently caress. This is sadly true. All there needs to be is the character in the group who gets bit, but instead of hiding it until they slowly turn like what usually happens, they lash out violently at the others since "zombie bites are liberal propaganda" to be perfectly accurate to the real world.
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Dear sir or madam, To Lord Baldworf von Peagreen Sea, I take offense to the reply you forced me to receive at 8:25:3 P.M. London time (with verification by my Lloyd's silver timepiece). I had just set down to supp when your invective-strewn letter arrived, and I was forced with near-anger to post a response immediately. To whit: The vitality of Mr. Taxes was never in question, and is of course the least concern to a physically vigorous and socially adroit gentleman such as myself. My thoughts are loftier. To that end, I ask you to understand I am not mad in the head; nor am I hot of the blood. Now the pressing matter, at hand, mind you, is that some rake-about-town is wrong on the posterboard walls of your out-house. I say this notnwithout rage, but with the generous whit of a salon-savant. Thank you. P.S. As this matter has clearly concluded, I wish you the best sir. P.P.S. The aforementioned P.S. was consciously made with the implied assumption that sir agrees to this thesis: I am not angry, nor have I ever been angry. Postings will continue until all parties agree. Signed, A gentleman with the least-angered of demeanors. 
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Foxfire_ posted:My biggest irrational zombie "these people are idiots" peeve is the Walking Dead arc where a swarm of a few hundred zombies trap people in their heavily fortified walled town full of weapons, tools, raw materials, and a few weeks of food and water. It goes off onto a thing where the town people are despairing/hoping for outside rescue instead of "Make some long pointy sticks, everybody has a quota to poke 5 zombies a day while standing on top of the wall" Z Nation was so much better about that kind of thing. At one point, the main group set up in a normal suburban house, but they put up a short electric fence and would just easily brain the stuck zombies in shifts. Or the completely safe and relatively happy walled community, which only fell because a crazy cult infiltrated and killed themselves specifically to become zombies and kill everyone.
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PhazonLink posted:I mentioned World War Z in another thread, but shouldn't all zombie/infection works be a dead genre for a few years/decades? (maybe even the diaster genre too?) I hate to cause the anime-dislikers to burst into hives again, but something that actually surprised me when watching Gurren Lagann (which ages badly in other ways, although fortunately those parts fall away over time) was when the public response to being protected from a threat was protest about being inconvenienced by that protection. That was disappointingly prescient. What didn't age well were the comments on Crunchyroll calling that unrealistic and contrived.
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Cleretic posted:What didn't age well were the comments on Crunchyroll calling that unrealistic and contrived. reminds me of the extra credits video from pre 2020 about how a plague in WoW was sort of useful to real life pandemic science.
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It was interesting seeing them be confronted with a problem they couldn't just giant robot away.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:It was interesting seeing them be confronted with a problem they couldn't just giant robot away. The most interesting part of most giant robot anime are when problems arise that can't be solved with giant robots. That sounds like a knock against the genre, but I'd call it a strength; especially when you get into the 'real robot' subgenre (as opposed to the 'super robot' subgenre) there is a very strong willingness to ask what use a giant robot is in the first place. Mostly because the giant robots are usually some sort of metaphor or analogy. Of course, the annoying thing about Gurren Lagann is that its answer to a problem that can't be solved by a giant robot is 'use a giant robot anyway, but mean it this time'.
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Crowetron posted:The Resident Evil games are the most realistic zombie media ever made because there's constant deadly outbreaks, whole cities wiped out in days, and the world just moves on. There's no apocalypse, things just keep on going and everyone has to pretend its fine. Yeah, like 6 million people in Raccoon City just got infected with a deadly virus and then turned into nuclear ash but I can't give a poo poo about that. My boss has been snorting cattle insulin because Joe Rogan told him it cures the T-Virus and now I gotta work doubles all week. gently caress. actually it's Dead Rising, because it's that, plus they made a gameshow about killing zombies AND have super expensive anti-zombification drugs
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Mazerunner posted:actually it's Dead Rising, because it's that, plus they made a gameshow about killing zombies AND have super expensive anti-zombification drugs Also the second game is built around a murderous (zombie) plan to shore up stock prices and the evil anti-zombification drugs corporation gets off scot free
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Splash Attack posted:didn’t night of the living dead end with the black protagonist surviving the events of the movie only to be shot dead at the very end by a posse of white people who mistook him for a zombie? Yes, he was 'mistaken' for a 'zombie'.
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Cleretic posted:The most interesting part of most giant robot anime are when problems arise that can't be solved with giant robots. That sounds like a knock against the genre, but I'd call it a strength; especially when you get into the 'real robot' subgenre (as opposed to the 'super robot' subgenre) there is a very strong willingness to ask what use a giant robot is in the first place. Mostly because the giant robots are usually some sort of metaphor or analogy. Doesn't the whole ending have the protagonist give up the space magic that powered the giant robots because it was slowly killing the universe, acknowledging the ultimate villains had a point, even though he could have used it just one last time to revive his girlfriend? Isn't there also a whole arc in the middle where the heroes have overthrown the big bad guy running everything but turn out to suck at actually running the place because their only real skills are giant robot-ing? Gundam of course just plain has the giant robots as merchandisable and cool military hardware, and I mostly just remember that infamous movie into where a giant robot battle in a space colony is shown from the perspective of civilians- and it's the full blown horrors of war, with civilians graphically dying left and right, children and parents included, in horrific ways from both sides, basically impossible to tell the attackers from the defenders except when said defenders try to use the fleeing refugees as human shields. (Oh, and apparently high command bailed to Earth ages back and is mocking them for their incompetence) As for zombies, we already invented the perfect weapon against them over a hundred years ago: The machine gun. Heck, video games recognise this, with Resident Evil and Dead Rising specifically focusing on actual horror scenarios of being stuck in a confined space with limited resources against a very local and personal threat, and the shambling zombies are just sideshows to the actual threats to the world. Ghost Leviathan has a new favorite as of 10:41 on May 24, 2022 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Doesn't the whole ending have the protagonist give up the space magic that powered the giant robots because it was slowly killing the universe, acknowledging the ultimate villains had a point, even though he could have used it just one last time to revive his girlfriend? Isn't there also a whole arc in the middle where the heroes have overthrown the big bad guy running everything but turn out to suck at actually running the place because their only real skills are giant robot-ing? I can't speak to the spoilered part because I haven't gotten to it yet, but the arc you mention isn't the middle, but more the last third mark, where they find out everything the previous villain was secretly planning against, and it's a huge alien threat that's too big and terrifying to be stopped by a giant robot, they actually have to grapple with issues of existential, unstoppable danger. And then they instead solve it by throwing a giant robot at it. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 10:58 on May 24, 2022 |
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Samovar posted:Yes, he was 'mistaken' for a 'zombie'. Yeah, this. By some white cops. It being very obvious he was not a zombie. But they were in fear of their lives I'm sure! It's such a good movie.
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PhazonLink posted:reminds me of the extra credits video from pre 2020 about how a plague in WoW was sort of useful to real life pandemic science. this is a clear metaphor for antimaskers
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I always thought that part of it wasn't reflective of reality. It exploits a difference in the level to which people care about their video game character's life. In real life, everyone values their life more or less equally, so people wouldn't get intentionally infected in order to spread the disease. Then real life happened and I guess tons of people just want to die and take as many people with them as possible.
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