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Saul hires Mike to dispose of Howard's body, and so there's no disappearance, hires Lenny to portray Howard in the role of a lifetime edit: lovely snipe but hey let's at least stop arguing about how the seasons are released. I prefer to watch it week to week but since my father is sick and may not hang on until the end of August, I wish there was an option to watch it all at once, because this show is one of the last things we can bond over.
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if Mike helps with the body its only after he deals with the Lalo situation at large. otherwise he's tied up. and i think they're probably going to want that body resolved sooner than later, so I don't think that's the route they go
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May 25, 2022 22:59
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:if Mike helps with the body its only after he deals with the Lalo situation at large. otherwise he's tied up. and i think they're probably going to want that body resolved sooner than later, so I don't think that's the route they go That's a good point. Maybe this is what causes Kim and Jimmy's split: how they want to handle the body. One wants to call the police, one doesn't want to risk being a rat versus friend of the cartel. Kim, obviously being the latter.
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May 25, 2022 23:09
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Kim is cool and good. Jimmy is cool and good. Toby Soprano is cool and good. Scott Pilgrim is cool and good. Most people are cool and good, except for baby brains who have to see a bad person explicitly punished in their media.
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May 25, 2022 23:14
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I suspect because they are probably bad people and the only way they can resolve the dissonance is through the social performance of Media Criticism.
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May 25, 2022 23:16
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escape artist posted:That's a good point. yeah i have a feeling that its going to be a big issue, mirroring the severity of when Walt and Jesse had to dispose of Emillio's body. that took up a whole episode in itself practically
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May 25, 2022 23:17
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I'm in a brain fog over what all has happened in BCS in some things. Has Kim ever been exposed to this level of violence before? Literally seeing Howards brains blown out 5 feet away has to be absolutely life changing for her.
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May 25, 2022 23:26
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Disappointing Pie posted:I'm in a brain fog over what all has happened in BCS in some things. Has Kim ever been exposed to this level of violence before? Literally seeing Howards brains blown out 5 feet away has to be absolutely life changing for her. She hasn’t as far as we know. This is going to gently caress her completely up, but she may double down and redecorate sauls office as a way to cope
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May 25, 2022 23:30
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IIRC this is fairly new territory for Saul as well. I mean he has seen people killed in cartel violence during his desert trip, and he got very close when Tuco wanted to kill the skaters, but Hamlin getting shot in the head like that is a level beyond imo
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May 25, 2022 23:38
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She has not, no. Literally all the cartel stuff has been happening to Jimmy, other than the previous time Lalo visited them at their house. I don't think she's been around any violence that we've seen. It is entirely uncharted territory for her. It strikes me now that Mike's assessment that she was made of sterner stuff was kind of lovely; he had just gone through a shootout with Jimmy who managed to rally past the shock and carry a sizable burden through the desert and drink his own piss with, honestly, a much better attitude than coul be expected. I feel like he's probably right, it's Mike after all, but it's gonna feel real unearned if Kim somehow keeps it more together than the guy who has at least been around a bunch of cartel violence already.
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May 25, 2022 23:39
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Disappointing Pie posted:I'm in a brain fog over what all has happened in BCS in some things. Has Kim ever been exposed to this level of violence before? Literally seeing Howards brains blown out 5 feet away has to be absolutely life changing for her. not that we know of
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May 25, 2022 23:56
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Mike said she was made of sterner stuff because he heard her get Lalo to back down (whereas Jimmy was bumbling and about to blow it)
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May 26, 2022 00:00
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Yeah, there's no way Kim isn't forever changed by this. Not only did she witness the murder of someone she knows, she orchestrated the chain of events that led to Howand being in her apartment. He would not have come there for any other reason. Plus there's the fact that she knew Lalo was alive; not that she could have done anything with that information, but just knowing it is going to make it hit harder for her than for Jimmy. She's nowhere near hardhearted enough to not feel responsible for Howard's death. Maybe she decides she doesn't deserve to practice law after causing this, and that's a factor that pushes her and Jimmy apart.
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May 26, 2022 00:01
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a new study bible! posted:I suspect because they are probably bad people and the only way they can resolve the dissonance is through the social performance of Media Criticism.  I suspect you're one of the people who posted endlessly about how much of a bitch Skylar was, hindering Walt's drug empire
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stromboni posted:Mike said she was made of sterner stuff because he heard her get Lalo to back down (whereas Jimmy was bumbling and about to blow it) yeah but also Kim hadn't just beein through 36 hours of insane trauma and could not possibly conceive of the situation she was in even if she was rationally aware that Lalo might shoot them
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May 26, 2022 00:08
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Yeah, I think Mike just doesn't take Jimmy seriously on a fundamental level. Which, of course, ultimately leads to his undoing.
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May 26, 2022 00:11
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i wonder how Mike is going to react to Howard dying. an innocent dude gets blasted by the guy Mike is supposed to be hunting down, at a location Mike's guys were supposed to be protecting, like 15 minutes after Mike sent his guys away. gotta sting at least a little, right
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Aye Doc posted:i wonder how Mike is going to react to Howard dying. an innocent dude gets blasted by the guy Mike is supposed to be hunting down, at a location Mike's guys were supposed to be protecting, like 15 minutes after Mike sent his guys away. gotta sting at least a little, right Will he ever know? It's not clear what Lalo's "talk" is going to be about, and it may involve making a move against Mike and co, so unless Mike's bugged the place, he may be out of the equation here
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christmas boots posted:Yeah, I think Mike just doesn't take Jimmy seriously on a fundamental level. Which, of course, ultimately leads to his undoing. Can you elaborate on this? My BB memory is hazy but are you suggesting Saul is implicated in Mike's untimely death at Walt's hands?
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Mister Speaker posted:Can you elaborate on this? My BB memory is hazy but are you suggesting Saul is implicated in Mike's untimely death at Walt's hands? I'm not that person but I think they may mean Mike's general disdain for "civilians" in the business. Time and again he doesn't take them as threats.
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Mister Speaker posted:Can you elaborate on this? My BB memory is hazy but are you suggesting Saul is implicated in Mike's untimely death at Walt's hands? Mike goes with a different lawyer for the “legacy payments” who gets caught and Saul has a line about how bad that particular lawyer was for the job and that Mike should have let him handle it
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May 26, 2022 00:47
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About Lalo's "talk" that he wants to have with Jimmy and Kim -- what if he still trusts Jimmy and Kim, doesn't realize they have connections to Mike and enlists them to make a move against Gus, with it not going well because Jimmy and Kim have to con their way into making Lalo believe they're doing what he wanted. Cons all the way down...
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May 26, 2022 00:48
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The big scene I remember is Mike busting into Saul's office and threatening to break his kneecaps if he doesn't give up Walt and Jesse, and Saul rather easily sends him off with a fake address, but that was like season 3 or 4 I'm pretty sure. Do they even ever meet up after that? E: christmas boots posted:Mike goes with a different lawyer for the “legacy payments” who gets caught and Saul has a line about how bad that particular lawyer was for the job and that Mike should have let him handle it yeah okay that'd do it Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 00:56 on May 26, 2022 |
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May 26, 2022 00:52
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I don’t think the body is going to be anything big. It’s possible Lalo is making his move that night or next day and needs Jimmy for whatever, so if he’s dead soon they have all the time in the world to deal with it. I also think Kim not telling Jimmy she knew Lalo was alive is what leads to the breakup
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Last Chance posted:About Lalo's "talk" that he wants to have with Jimmy and Kim -- what if he still trusts Jimmy and Kim, doesn't realize they have connections to Mike and enlists them to make a move against Gus, with it not going well because Jimmy and Kim have to con their way into making Lalo believe they're doing what he wanted. Cons all the way down... That's almost definitely the case; Lalo's not there to pick a fight, he's there to obtain the services of his most dependable (able-bodied) ally in Albuquerque. He just happened to spot an unrelated threat along the way and got rid of it because that's not really a big deal to him, and the scene would be incredibly farcical if it weren't so horrifying.
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Speaking of Mike, there's been a good amount of tension between Gus vs Mike and Gus' men vs Mike. In fact I don't know if I'd say any of the henchmen are loyal to Mike at all, except maybe some of the bodyguards that get 0-1 lines. Victor and Tyrus seem to have no loyalty to Mike at all. So what's going to happen in 6 more episodes that'll transform Mike into a hired hand who isn't quite fitting in to someone loyal to Fring?
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I kind of get the opposite read, that they respect Mike a lot more than they do Gus, even if their loyalties are ultimately mercenary. At least Tyrus had the scene where he was trying to talk Mike out of having a security team on Stacy's house, and Mike responded "If the boss has a problem, he knows how to get in touch. If you have a problem, I'm right here," and Tyrus nodded and dropped it. Mike fits in just fine AFAICT, the only sticking point is his loyalty to Gus. Maybe Lalo will offer to bridge that gap as well! E: I'll grant that Victor may not be that into Mike, at least I don't recall any scenes that indicate otherwise, but that strikes me as more of a Victor problem. Dude kind of sucks. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 26, 2022 |
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Mike is indispensable because he’s absolutely loyal, in the sense that the cartel can’t just buy him off and he’ll never run to the cops. He’ll tell Gus to gently caress off for personal reasons but not sell him out. He’s also hyper competent in a way that guys like Victor just aren’t, so it’s hardly surprising that he’s basically the hand of Gus in BB.
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I’ve completely forgotten how Mike went from henchman for hire by the baseball card guy to on the inside with Gus
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drunken officeparty posted:I’ve completely forgotten how Mike went from henchman for hire by the baseball card guy to on the inside with Gus I remember at one point he was about to assassinate cartel members as revenge for their killing an innocent trucker and one of Gus's guys stopped him, but not what happened after that
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Gus' operations being as big and structured as it is, is one of the flimsier parts of the shows based on Mike's quick rise and prominence. How'd they make it that far relying on Victor and Tyrus when they couldn't even get guys competently before Mike. Also I kinda wish the kid killing story didn't happen, because Mike doesn't seem like he would tolerate it any more than Jesse.
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Mike gets hired to bodyguard baseball guy, who deals with Nacho. Then Nacho robs the baseball guy and Mike cleans up the mess, which impresses Nacho, who hires him to get rid of Tuco. Mike gets Tuco jailed for assault and illegal possession of a firearm. Hector threatens to kill Kaylee if Mike doesn't change his testimony to shorten Tuco's sentence, and Mike starts loving with Hector's business in revenge, which leads to Hector killing the truck driver, which leads to Mike planning to assassinate Hector. Gus foils the assassination, and Mike eventually tracks him down, which impresses Gus enough that he hires Mike to continue loving with Hector. Mike pretty much immediately outshines all of Gus' other goons and is his right-hand man within a season of them meeting.
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galenanorth posted:I remember at one point he was about to assassinate cartel members as revenge for their killing an innocent trucker and one of Gus's guys stopped him, but not what happened after that Mike started getting tracked sometime during his feud with Hector. He realized he was getting tracked and traced it back to Gus. He and Gus worked together to sabotage Hector's business (Gus's doctor provided cocaine, and Mike planted it on Hector's truck). Mike asks Gus to help launder the money he stole from Hector, and now they're in business together so Gus hires Mike to oversee the superlab excavation. Mike ends up killing Werner and steps away from the game for a while, but Gus saves Mike after he gets himself stabbed, and from there on Mike is Gus's guy. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 01:41 on May 26, 2022 |
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Nah gently caress that. Releasing the whole season at once is objectively better for the consumer. That way we can watch whichever way suits us. Dropping it all at once means that if you care about watching without spoilers, you can’t engage in conversation online. There’s no room for safe analysis or prediction online since others will post what actually happened. Then, those who want to discuss the content, end up spending the majority of the time ignoring the middle since people naturally remember beginnings and endings more. That’s not a big deal if you enjoy quietly watching, but for many, the discussion and analysis is a huge part of the enjoyment of media.
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There's a reason book clubs meet according to a set schedule of X chapters per session instead of "let's all read it at our own pace."
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:This is the closest thing to a decent argument against dumping seasons all at once, but for me at the end of the day it's taking away choice from the consumer and imo at the end of the day that sucks. A dumped show is actually the scenario that removes and option for consumers. If you don’t care about engaging in discussion about a show and/or you don’t care about spoilers, you should just wait until everything has aired and then binge it. If you care about engaging in discussion and avoiding spoilers, a show being dumped means those things will be actively worse for you.
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drat, I really should do a rewatch of the whole series in the interim. Mike's story is loving incredible. iamsosmrt posted:Also I kinda wish the kid killing story didn't happen, because Mike doesn't seem like he would tolerate it any more than Jesse. In light of the above I kind of agree with this (I assume you're talking about Drew Sharp in Dead Freight). He doesn't seem to object much to Todd's psychopathy, only acting coldly logical to protect themselves and the plan when Jesse acts out. Maybe he was shook by the prospect that one of his guys in prison isn't as solid as he thought. I sort of figured killing Werner was a big turn for Mike, but we still see him act out of compassion for others well past that (I think?). I guess hindsight is 20/20 and the writers of BB probably never expected Mike's backstory to be filled out so strongly.
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best part of s3 2 peaks was the batshit theories, that sometimes came true because the show was batshit those theories would have never happened without having to wait a week i'm happy that poo poo like I Think You Should Leave are just dumped as a whole season tho
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galenanorth posted:I remember at one point he was about to assassinate cartel members as revenge for their killing an innocent trucker and one of Gus's guys stopped him, but not what happened after that I thought it was, specifically, because the guy who found the trucker in the first place that they killed wound up being the husband of the lady from the therapy group? Or am I wrong about that? I just remember shortly after she gave her story he went out, dug up the body, reported it, and then things started getting rolling. ghostwritingduck posted:A dumped show is actually the scenario that removes and option for consumers. If you don’t care about engaging in discussion about a show and/or you don’t care about spoilers, you should just wait until everything has aired and then binge it. If you care about engaging in discussion and avoiding spoilers, a show being dumped means those things will be actively worse for you. There is literally nothing stopping people from making groups online to watch one episode a week book club style to discuss it, but I guess that'd take some personal effort. So instead it's better to just force everyone to watch poo poo the same way I guess, gently caress anyone who doesn't want to spend a week engaging in, or hearing about, ~water cooler talk~. Meanwhile people who resign themselves to waiting basically have to treat half of the internet like a minefield because any moderately popular show will have its latest plot reveals and details blasted everywhere whether you're on a relevant space or not. I knew basically every detail about Wandavision before I'd even watched the first episode almost solely through wikia ads while trying to find dark souls drop rate information.
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The latest season of Joni’s Bizarre Adventure was dropped in a 12? Episode chunk, I did my best to avoid spoilers, only watch on fridays There was even a separate goon simulwatch thread. That saw no activity. By the time I had finished watching, all of the discussion was dead. The choice move is to drop the first 2-3 episodes at once and then weekly If you want to binge, wait until it’s done  Nuebot posted:There is literally nothing stopping people from making groups online to watch one episode a week book club style to discuss it, but I guess that'd take some personal effort. quote:Meanwhile people who resign themselves to waiting basically have to treat half of the internet like a minefield because any moderately popular show will have its latest plot reveals and details blasted everywhere whether you're on a relevant space or not. You realize these are exactly he loving same, right? Sockser fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 26, 2022 |
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