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Coydog posted:Show me an actual drag bike with an aliexpress extended swingarm bolt on. I wasn't aware that they could really take that sort of load. Ok so this post made me go look at the pictures more closely and holy gently caress! The 'right' way to do it is to cut your swingarm and weld in extensions and any necessary bracing. This works well for low powered bikes. If you're making real power it's more sensible to just build a long swingarm from scratch. What the above turds have got, I have just understood, are bolt on swingarm extensions. I don't know where to begin, it's a war crime even KTM's don't deserve. The axle and chain adjuster casting can't possibly cope with a foot long lever being bolted to it, there is no multiple bolts or bracing or anything, which means they're relying on a tight interlock between the parts + the axle bolt holes, which means the swingarm now has a hinge in the middle. The extenders are separate to one another so they can flex independently, what this will look like is the back wheel cambering over toward the sprocket side, as well as the whole swingarm just flexing side to side and giving you a hella weave that probably counteracts any gains from the longer wheelbase. Idk what a corkscrew shaped bike does to your ability to keep going straight. All of this will lead to rapid work hardening and eventual failure of the factory swingarm which is definitely not designed to take those types of forces in that kind of direction. In short: 
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Somehow this is more offensive than all the KTM 390 ads put together.
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It brings me innumerable joy to witness another soul realizing the horror that is the typical "extended swingarm". That you teach me this: Slavvy posted:The extenders are separate to one another so they can flex independently, what this will look like is the back wheel cambering over toward the sprocket side, as well as the whole swingarm just flexing side to side and giving you a hella weave that probably counteracts any gains from the longer wheelbase. Idk what a corkscrew shaped bike does to your ability to keep going straight. Is just the icing on the cake that comes from informing slavvy of this horror. It's just a mod that ignores physics or torque or like basic things that we should all understand in preschool. Like these morons never grasped a seesaw I guess. And it's totally cool that they are trusting their lives to an impossibly overspecced bit of mass produced anodized slag aluminum produced by people who care not for legal repercussions. But it costs less than $400 usd and that has to be less than what a complete swingarm costs so it's a win! https://www.drowsports.com/honda-grom-bolt-on-swingarm-extension-stretch-kit
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Coydog posted:But it costs less than $400 usd and that has to be less than what a complete swingarm costs so it's a win! Fuuuck me I think clicking that link has given me a kidney stone jesus fucken poo poo.
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I would like to take this moment to applaud Suzuki for not attempting to integrate an extended style swingarm into the new Hayabusa design language. I'll bet there were some concept sketches.
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Finger Prince posted:I would like to take this moment to applaud Suzuki for not attempting to integrate an extended style swingarm into the new Hayabusa design language. I'll bet there were some concept sketches. They're very conscious of what the aftermarket is doing; with the latest revision they improved the lubrication system, gearbox etc to account for people expecting 500+ reliable horsepower with a turbo. It's likely they've improved the relevant frame areas on the bike to account for people bolting on huge swingarms. I think at one point if they had sold an off-road only genuine Suzuki extended swingarm they could've made mega bucks, but they're now so ubiquitous in the aftermarket there'd be no point.
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Slavvy posted:They're very conscious of what the aftermarket is doing; with the latest revision they improved the lubrication system, gearbox etc to account for people expecting 500+ reliable horsepower with a turbo. It's likely they've improved the relevant frame areas on the bike to account for people bolting on huge swingarms. I think at one point if they had sold an off-road only genuine Suzuki extended swingarm they could've made mega bucks, but they're now so ubiquitous in the aftermarket there'd be no point. Oh, there's no doubt they're aware. But it would have been easy to say "this is what the cool kids are doing to our product, if we make it look like that, think of the sales!". Happens all the time with cars. I think that to say no to that urge, build a normal bike with maybe a tacit nod that says "we know what you're going to do with this bike once you get your filthy hands on it", with the understanding that that's what drives the interest, the cult culture, and the ultimately the sales, is a wiser approach.
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FBS posted:Somehow this is more offensive than all the KTM 390 ads put together. Maybe they got in trouble and now they're just looking to do quasi-hooligan (grom) poo poo instead of actual hooligan (sumo) poo poo or they simply want something different (and dumb) in the garage In a similar vein, I'd be willing to take a good e-bike in trade towards my FZ09 from a pure practicality standpoint. I still have two other bikes and frankly I could use the extra garage space
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May 26, 2022 04:13
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I bet there's two masterlinks on that chain too
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Revvik posted:
Hi Brady, is this still rideable?
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Hi Brady, you know how in precision optics, such as things like space telescopes, and extremely precise lenses they have to do absolutely crazy things like grind the glass against surfaces who’s flatness is measured in literal atoms? And you know how they have to grind the lenses in special rooms that are completely free of dust and other contaminants because even one mote of dust will throw the overall flatness off by orders of magnitude? And of course that’s to say nothing of smoothness vs flatness. Smoothness on these lenses is verified with scanning electron microscopes that ensure that there are no ripples in the glass larger than nanometers over the length of it. The flatness and especially smoothness of these lenses are absolutely unparalleled the world over, and requires a team of scientists and engineers to work for months in absolutely sterile, controlled conditions to achieve smoothness on the sub-atomic level. That’s how smooth your brain is.
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I bet that thing rides really spooky, like a bike with worn swingarm bearings or a chain adjuster than won't stay tight. Those swingarm extensions scare the poo poo out of me for all the reasons Slaavy listed. To make that even remotely safe there should be additional bracing above and below the swing arm that ties both sides AND the rear bolted on extensions together. I don't want to use any extended swingarm as a good example but something more like this where there the builder was at least aware of the concept of torsion: At the very least the whole thing is welded together and not bolted.
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Real extended swingarms that are made for drag racing are always a one piece design in my experience. Usually with extra bracing like above. The extender inserts are specifically for Hard Parking™️ at bike night I know the local drag track, Great Lakes Dragaway, won’t let your bike pass safety if you show up with those extender inserts. Extender inserts are pretty funny and still dangerous on a Vitpillen with 400cc’s but they become a legit danger to everyone around if someone shows up with them on a Hayabusa or ZX14 or something like that. Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 14:56 on May 29, 2022 |
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May 29, 2022 14:53
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I joined a motorcycle fb sale group:
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God that's rad.
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Front wheel conversion from my kids huffy mountain bike CUSTOM
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All I see is an fxr one wheel and handlebar away from being the perfect Harley
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May 30, 2022 21:19
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You obviously don't see the 12,206.64 New Zealand Dollars price. edit: Aw jeez I'm sorry I meant 11,118.80 Australian Dollars
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May 30, 2022 22:33
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.... That's still half price compared to local values for the same thing. It isn't just a dyna, it's an fxr, it's a bit of a thing.
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Dang glad I stumbled on some cool Moto history with this ad.quote:The FXR is considered one of the best Harleys on the road, but this wasn’t always the case. In fact, when it was first launched in 1982, people seemed to consider it too Japanese. Aha this is why it’s so good. https://deadbeatcustoms.com/blog/history-of-the-harley-davidson-fxr/ And the biggest surprise of all is HD released a cool bike and then produced it for ALMOST a decade before canning it??? Then even brought it back for a hot minute?
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How is that amazing, they've been making the same model sportster for literally forty years and it's one of the best bikes on earth
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Extended swing arm content: for $7000 you can have this 2005 R1 (salvage restored title) 
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That's a good one cause you can really see the hinge and really imagine it buckling under the strain of 160hp.
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Load bearing brake line
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Heh, that looks like the brake line i just took off my FZR but less sun bleached.
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May 31, 2022 19:13
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quote:1992 Harley-Davidson custom
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This bike has mange.
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That thing looks like absolute dogshit and the unprimed paint looks terrible. Let alone all the modd
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What is going on with that rear fender Is that a chunk of barrier fencing
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All I see is a sweet fxr for a nice discount with a bunch of stuff you can remove, sell to some terrible old man and reap even further savings which can be used to pimp out your sweet fxr.
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i have decided that the prominent shifter is my favorite part of this
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So thats what my dad meant years ago that you could take a bike front end and make a trike with a car backend. Not gonna lie think looks kinda cool, also agree the dick shifter is a favorite
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6 times he used the word “fiero”, only once did he get it right
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Also I’m the casual mention of an engine compartment fire with no supporting details.
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That's what got me, you can take the car out of a fiero but the fire hazard is baked in
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Kelley Blue Book must do a motorcycle valuation update in June or something, and my bikes appreciated. We should all have been buying as many motorcycles as possible as inflation hedges.
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Tai
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Is title, approved for thread.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:6 times he used the word “fiero”, only once did he get it right Ponitac
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