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Defenestrategy posted:In my experience sros are there to be creepy to the girls, recruit anyone ovee 6 foot to join the football team, and drive in a little golf cart That’s 3 out of 3 for one of our high school security guards. The first one is what finally got him fired.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:That’s 3 out of 3 for one of our high school security guards. The first one is what finally got him fired. I forget the article, but there was one showing that a lot of SROs are Cops the department doesn't want on patrol for exactly reasons like this.
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May 26, 2022 18:57
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Also what the gently caress did they not use ladders, which you know they have, to get to the windows (assuming they even needed them) and try and neutralize the suspect. I get their are kids there, but gently caress the outcome of that “concern” aka cowardice was worse then anything that could have happened if they tried to stop him.
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May 26, 2022 18:58
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CommieGIR posted:I forget the article, but there was one showing that a lot of SROs are Cops the department doesn't want on patrol for exactly reasons like this. A buddy has a retired uncle cop who went full trump supporter. He was notable in his dept’s history for being warned not to use the women’s bathroom even if it’s late at night and he thinks it’s cleaner. Then doing so anyway and getting written up by a very annoyed commander. He knows another guy so bad with money that despite making six figures, twice a month has to haul poo poo to a waste disposal site as his trailer lacks a septic tank and saving for a down payment would interfere with buying dogecoins/drones/another SUV. Almost needed to go on medical leave as he forgets to drink water. Still a detective with a gun and arrest powers.
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May 26, 2022 19:04
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Conservatives hate public schools ever since Brown v Board education. It all comes back to racism.
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CommieGIR posted:I forget the article, but there was one showing that a lot of SROs are Cops the department doesn't want on patrol for exactly reasons like this. Probably pulling them directly from the Brady list
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May 26, 2022 19:10
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Also what the gently caress did they not use ladders, which you know they have, to get to the windows (assuming they even needed them) and try and neutralize the suspect. I get their are kids there, but gently caress the outcome of that “concern” aka cowardice was worse then anything that could have happened if they tried to stop him. Unless it is the most oddly designed building ever the backside of building looks like it has ground level windows per poking around online
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May 26, 2022 19:12
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davecrazy posted:Conservatives hate public schools ever since Brown v Board education. Yup. Just finished Nixonland and it mentioned the proliferation of Christian academies in the south in the early 1970s when desegregation began being enforced.
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Wasabi the J posted:LMAO y'all crying the cops pushing dead kids parents when in 2020 Americans en masse were shot in the face with rubber bullets for having the audacity to be mad at the police for being violent racists. And we were pissed about that too. Still pissed about it if you actually read what people are posting. What the gently caress are you on about?
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I am really hoping that since dead children didn't move the needle after Sandy Hook that seeing how grossly incompetent and cowardly the police officers responded to this shooting will actually do something
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May 26, 2022 19:20
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I'm personally still mad/scared about the unmarked vans black bagging people during those protests but, in the wise words of one Mr. Gambino, "This is America" so welp.
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May 26, 2022 19:22
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maffew buildings posted:Unless it is the most oddly designed building ever the backside of building looks like it has ground level windows per poking around online I had that feeling too, which makes Hicktown PD's actions even more reprehensible. They should have been trying to shoot or ripping the window over or hell crawling in.
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Nick Soapdish posted:I am really hoping that since dead children didn't move the needle after Sandy Hook that seeing how grossly incompetent and cowardly the police officers responded to this shooting will actually do something It will get them increased funding for “training.”
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I had that feeling too, which makes Hicktown PD's actions even more reprehensible. They should have been trying to shoot or ripping the window over or hell crawling in. Yeah, the fact that they didn't task some people to try to either bust down the door or break through a winder is sheer madness. They just....let the shooter do what he came to do.
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A.o.D. posted:A universal education system that teaches history, finance, science, civic responsibility, critical thinking, etc. Is absolutely necessary. The thing we have that is called a public education does very little of that and is one of this society's evils. You're focusing on symptoms of a larger disease and proposing we just cut out vital organs
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May 26, 2022 19:36
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I got a GOP voters guide thingy in the mail yesterday. I used it for toilet paper.
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News just had a Texas cop on briefing that the shooter did NOT encounter the SRO. They are trying really hard to make it sound like they weren't just standing around with their dicks in their hands for 40-60 min.
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lightpole posted:You're focusing on symptoms of a larger disease and proposing we just cut out vital organs See, the difference here is what you're calling a vital organ I'm seeing as a pulsing tumor. Let me put it another way, how can a system that is gripped with CRT panic or Don't say gay legislation be anything but fatally flawed? And yes I know that one school system isn't every school system, but what's the model school system in this country? Which one is doing what it's supposed to? A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 26, 2022 |
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A.o.D. posted:See, the difference here is what you're calling a vital organ I'm seeing as a pulsing tumor. Yes public schools purposely bled out until they can barely function now face calls for their complete removal. Who benefits the most from this? What group in this country tries very hard to make sure this is what happens? Schools need funding and fixing not getting rid of them so that only rich people's children can get education going forward
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Like as bad as some are, public schools are one of the very few social safety nets we have where kids can get federally paid food, basic education, maybe see a nurse or an adult other than their own family, etc. Public school access is extremely important.
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A.o.D. posted:See, the difference here is what you're calling a vital organ I'm seeing as a pulsing tumor. jesus christ
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
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A.o.D. posted:See, the difference here is what you're calling a vital organ I'm seeing as a pulsing tumor. Find some place rich and white. Probably a good model to start from. As said though one half (or more) of our current political system is dedicated to making them all lovely so it can be privatised, then used to put boots on necks harder and younger for profit.
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A.o.D. posted:See, the difference here is what you're calling a vital organ I'm seeing as a pulsing tumor. :picard:
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Jesus loving Christ https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1529895723243909141
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and even with the new "info", it still took 45+ minutes for some border patrol guys to end this, while the cops, again, did nothing
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Jesus loving Christ Ah, we're just going to make poo poo up to fit the narrative we want.
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1529897787042803718?s=21&t=pauYncThgKOzIq5MhvFmMw It’s like the cops realized parents no longer had to contend with Typhoid or Timmy working in a gilded age textile factory, so invented bonus challenges for parents and kids.
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fknlo posted:Ah, we're just going to make poo poo up to fit the narrative we want. "Turns out it was a gas leak that killed the kids, not a shooter."
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Waiting now for “Update: Shooter was actually 43-year-old cop”
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1529897787042803718?s=21&t=pauYncThgKOzIq5MhvFmMw This is just... so disgusting... ALL of those cops need to be fired. They are all responsible for at least some of the children's deaths.
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1529897787042803718?s=21&t=pauYncThgKOzIq5MhvFmMw There’s gonna be so much litigation from this and deservedly so.
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Hey look at this neat unrelated thing from Wikipedia I found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(punishment)
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Marshal Prolapse posted:There’s gonna be so much litigation from this and deservedly so. Pigs give zero fucks about that because it ends up paid for by the taxpayers and the cop causing the problem gets administrative leave until public pressure stops then goes back to normal. They get one of the few unions in the country that actually has power outside of (increasingly illegal for the little people) strikes.
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cities pay out billions a year in settlements, none of which effects police or police pension funding. meanwhile, virtually every other budget can get raided to make up shortfalls in police funding.
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During my very brief time as a pig before discovering gay space communism (okay that was later I just hated that 90% of my job was inconveniencing people at best) our training in a relatively “normal” blue state, not even rah rah Texas, was still 100% if there is any kind of active shooter unless told otherwise you run directly to where you think they are, yell at people who aren’t active shooters to run, and shoot the person shooting at other people. Unless they are taking hostages and not shooting them you never cordon and wait. It was basically the one circumstance where you’re supposed to throw caution to the wind since you can’t really make the situation worse. That was very explicitly trained and taught. It’s pretty much the doctrine everywhere to my knowledge after the Columbine shooting many many more years ago when mass shootings weren’t really a thing, where the cops tried to treat it like a hostage taking with even more horrifying results. My training was like a decade ago too and it’s not like we don’t have even more stats on mass shooting since then. There’s a very very strong inverse correlation with total dead or wounded in the attack and the amount of time the shooter had before they encountered some sort of threat.
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welp, basically ignore everything I said earlier, not a thing these cops said can be trusted https://twitter.com/reeseoxner/status/1529897254542356492?t=YPqYzEJsFag2h9zi_ulp_w&s=19 https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1529906155950067721?t=Ug-8SZmsEf6Gz2Z-mFmiKA&s=19
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Marshal Prolapse posted:There’s gonna be so much litigation from this and deservedly so. On what grounds? Thanks to our wonderful moon logic judicial traditions cops have no duty in any sense to do anything and if they sue because their rights were violated any judge will just say that because it was a dangerous and chaotic situation they have the right to do whatever. Even then if they win damages, which they almost certainly wont since they probably won’t even get a hearing because legally speaking they have no case I can think of, qualified immunity is still a thing everywhere but colorado so they cannot actually hold any cop criminally or civilly liable. Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 26, 2022 |
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