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Typical Pubbie posted:The cops would want to check if they had hit any kids because they had to open fire on a gunman inside a room full of kids. Maybe they're lying but it's not an incriminating statement. Why say so instead of "this is an ongoing investigation"? Not directed at you particularly, but since cops have proven themselves to murder citizens without impunity, get away with rape of suspects, not save people or have any culpability or requirement to provide safety for citizens--something they have gone to the Supreme Court to protect--maybe we don't give them a benefit of the doubt. The Sean fucked around with this message at 01:07 on May 27, 2022 |
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Typical Pubbie posted:The cops would want to check if they had hit any kids because they had to open fire on a gunman inside a room full of kids. Maybe they're lying but it's not an incriminating statement. Again, who cares? Why defend them? It’s easier and better to believe they are lying. Otherwise you are wasting parts of your brain/energy to defend state sponsored violence. Truth does not matter here when it comes to negative statements about the police. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'm no forensic expert so I might totally wrong about this but isn't it a bit early to say so matter of factly that no policemen's bullets hit these kids? Like I don't know how fast autopsies can be done but it's barely been 48 hours since the shooting so I would think that with the amount of victims that autopsies would still be taking place.
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May 27, 2022 01:08
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Regardless of how much of a clusterfuck this was, and how much the cops are covering their asses for loving up, you just know that the only response from anyone with actual power is going to be "we need to give these cops more money."
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May 27, 2022 01:16
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Again, who cares? Why defend them? It’s easier and better to believe they are lying. Otherwise you are wasting parts of your brain/energy to defend state sponsored violence. Truth does not matter here when it comes to negative statements about the police. I don't see the point of lying about the cops. Unless the story changes again it looks like the shooter just walked into the class and started shooting without anyone being there to stop him. The cops could have breached the room 5 minutes later and those kids would still be dead. Maybe the cops loving up will shake the public's faith in them which is good, but that doesn't address the underlying cause. It's beyond depressing to live in a society where cops doing a Rainbow Six breach and clear on a classroom in under 10 minutes is an actual legitimate standard that exists.
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May 27, 2022 01:28
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BiggerBoat posted:Ray Liotta died at age 67 If this was the biggest news of the day it would make me much happier. Not meaning that we need to sacrifice celebs Lottery-style, but you know what I mean.
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May 27, 2022 01:31
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Apparently the police took so long to enter the building because there was a gunman inside and they were worried they might be shot. https://twitter.com/JREakin/status/1529979115709034496
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The Sean posted:People who are in power pre-emptively explain that they didn't do a thing before being accused of a thing? And this also holds for normal people? That's not what happened though. You're making things up. A reporter literally asked if the kids were caught up in gunfire or if all the children were shot by the gunman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcSr6DU83yk time is 36:17 and you need to crank the volume to hear the question. I'd like you to take a moment to consider how reliable your opinions are on anything if you don't even take a moment to learn what was actually being said.
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Typical Pubbie posted:The cops could have breached the room 5 minutes later and those kids would still be dead https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1529901022918889485 There's at least one kid who might not have been
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Typical Pubbie posted:I don't see the point of lying about the cops. Unless the story changes again it looks like the shooter just walked into the class and started shooting without anyone being there to stop him. The cops could have breached the room 5 minutes later and those kids would still be dead. Maybe the cops loving up will shake the public's faith in them which is good, but that doesn't address the underlying cause. It's beyond depressing to live in a society where cops doing a Rainbow Six breach and clear on a classroom in under 10 minutes is an actual legitimate standard that exists. You are utterly wrong. Getting in under 10 minutes may well have saved the lives of several people. It has now been reported he shot outside the school and stayed outside in his crashed truck for 12 minutes before hand and shot at 2 people going in. The cops have been wrong or lied about multiple facts in less than 48 hours and have 0 credibility. Much like you.
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May 27, 2022 01:42
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Wasn't the whole point of outfitting cops with AR15s and MRAPS because criminals are so well armed these days? I mean I know that's not the real reason, but I'm sure it was the "official" reason.
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Typical Pubbie posted:I don't see the point of lying about the cops. Unless the story changes again it looks like the shooter just walked into the class and started shooting without anyone being there to stop him. The cops could have breached the room 5 minutes later and those kids would still be dead. Maybe the cops loving up will shake the public's faith in them which is good, but that doesn't address the underlying cause. It's beyond depressing to live in a society where cops doing a Rainbow Six breach and clear on a classroom in under 10 minutes is an actual legitimate standard that exists. ....no this isn't how bleeding out works, which they waiting 40+ minutes to breach the room, effectively ensuring that there'd be little to no survivors. Critical care for gunshot wounds has to happen fast. And combined with the cops now saying they refused to engage because "They were afraid of being shot" basically counters the idea that the cops couldn't save anyone. They could have done something. Instead they did nothing.
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CommieGIR posted:.....why would you even have to say this unless you DID it. If true, accept, and when you’re on camera with the governor shout that they need stronger laws until they drag you away
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May 27, 2022 02:17
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haveblue posted:If true, accept, and when you’re on camera with the governor shout that they need stronger laws until they drag you away Yeah I'm gonna take the L and say the account is likely trash.
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Fart Amplifier posted:That's not what happened though. You're making things up. A reporter literally asked if the kids were caught up in gunfire or if all the children were shot by the gunman What you quoted, a quote from police, said "believe." Beliefs are not facts. If you're going to lecture me on how "reliable opinions are" then don't source "beliefs" to back up your rhetoric Pretty loving simple logic to that.
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I don't think Gregg Abbott would do such a thing, nor would any of the people that surround him. Say what you will, I don't agree with all of his politics, hell most of his politics, but he's a fine family man.
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Calibanibal posted:I don't think Gregg Abbott would do such a thing, nor would any of the people that surround him. Say what you will, I don't agree with all of his politics, hell most of his politics, but he's a fine family man. He's a member of the GOP. Fine family man, indeed. He's a hatemongering racist and bigot CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 27, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah I'm gonna take the L and say the account is likely trash. The casual public threat against their lives makes it seem pretty fake, although I guess I don't know how republicans behave when they have total control of a place.
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Calibanibal posted:I don't think Gregg Abbott would do such a thing, nor would any of the people that surround him. Say what you will, I don't agree with all of his politics, hell most of his politics, but he's a fine family man. Fine family man, the same Abbott having trans children forcibly removed from their families? I'll say what I will, the man is a sack of dog poo poo with no redeeming traits.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:All resistance that is fighting uphill for more rights of any kind results in fatalities. The labor wars were a brutal grind from not long after the civil war ended to WW2 starting. Many died and were maimed to earn the rights we are losing right now. It was not a direct path either. A lot of you should know this. Why are we probing people for making a completely verifiable observation, just because that observation makes people uncomfortable? He wasn't advocating for mass shootings.
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The Sean posted:What you quoted, a quote from police, said "believe." Beliefs are not facts. You don't even know what you're arguing about. I didn't quote the police. I quoted the reporter, which provided a fact which refuted your lie ("People who are in power pre-emptively explain that they didn't do a thing before being accused of a thing?") This is extremely relevant to my point that no, denying having done something doesn't mean you did it.
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https://twitter.com/JeremyStahl/status/1529894416751919104 in case you were confused by the wording, the children of the cops did not die, they simply are unable to return home to them tonight because they are investigating a mass murder of children. pigs ALWAYS have to make everything about them
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A big flaming stink posted:https://twitter.com/JeremyStahl/status/1529894416751919104 For once I'm seeing conservative MAGA types equally disgusted with the cops in this case. I'm sure in the next few days they'll rally around some talking point about the pussification of America and how cops these days are afraid to use deadly force etc. etc.
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Didn’t they throw the pig at Parkland in jail for running and hiding?
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Youth Decay posted:For once I'm seeing conservative MAGA types equally disgusted with the cops in this case. I'm sure in the next few days they'll rally around some talking point about the pussification of America and how cops these days are afraid to use deadly force etc. etc. They've done this before. They are 100% content to call these cops bad apples then memory hole the entire event.
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Fart Amplifier posted:You don't even know what you're arguing about. I didn't quote the police. I quoted the reporter, which provided a fact which refuted your lie ("People who are in power pre-emptively explain that they didn't do a thing before being accused of a thing?") What you quoted was this You can't refute that. My point was that the police said "belief." You can't refutetm that. You can't refute anything I wrote
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The Sean posted:What you quoted was this No, I did not quote that. What? Also, are you dril?
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1529920321465327616?s=21&t=lXmLgVCp8IunI6mXS8WI6A I suspect I'm to the right of most of D&D regarding police defunding, but this is just jaw-dropping incompetence. The fact that it's taken several days to get a fuzzy timeline and basic facts like whether or not the police even engaged the shooter before he entered the school looks like desperate rear end-covering.
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Mischievous Mink posted:Fine family man, the same Abbott having trans children forcibly removed from their families? I'll say what I will, the man is a sack of dog poo poo with no redeeming traits. Regardless of what form of excrement Governor Abbot is (and I would have said horse), the guy making the claim makes a bunch of claims on his Twitter account that, if they're all true, this guy has a very usual biography. He's not that reliable a source.
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Epicurius posted:Regardless of what form of excrement Governor Abbot is (and I would have said horse), the guy making the claim makes a bunch of claims on his Twitter account that, if they're all true, this guy has a very usual biography. He's not that reliable a source. Oh agreed. From what I saw he has a history of nephews being murdered by police in very different parts of the country and it looks extremely questionable. I'm not generally on the side of police and certainly not here, but the evidence is against this particular guy imo. Just whether true or not I would never go so far as to say something positive about Abbott.
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Epicurius posted:Regardless of what form of excrement Governor Abbot is (and I would have said horse), the guy making the claim makes a bunch of claims on his Twitter account that, if they're all true, this guy has a very usual biography. He's not that reliable a source. excuse me?
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Fritz the Horse posted:excuse me? I'm just praising your rich gift to farmers everywhere, Fritz.
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https://twitter.com/sparrowmedia/status/1530031006064984075?s=20&t=ofLVdhAR-2k9tJP43aLKcA New information about the Buffalo shooting. What scares me is that we all know that law enforcement agencies are lousy with white nationalists, but even though it is a known fact, we still have calls from even Democratic politicians that the police must be funded and that they deserve our support. quote:aw enforcement officers are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist's plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket, two law enforcement officials told The Buffalo News.
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Epicurius posted:Regardless of what form of excrement Governor Abbot is (and I would have said horse), the guy making the claim makes a bunch of claims on his Twitter account that, if they're all true, this guy has a very usual biography. He's not that reliable a source. The excrement of ruminants is far, far more useful than anything a Republican governor has ever provided in this country
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I've come across a mathematically perfect picture of a rat, who wants an 18 hour probe with it as the reason? First come first serve
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Epic High Five posted:I've come across a mathematically perfect picture of a rat, who wants an 18 hour probe with it as the reason? First come first serve In (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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HonorableTB posted:I also want ratte Many want many things. Speak to me a word of power and I shall use it to divine an image to catjail you with. Beware though that depending on the power levels of said image it may vary between 6 and 24 hours
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Epic High Five posted:Many want many things. Speak to me a word of power and I shall use it to divine an image to catjail you with. Beware though that depending on the power levels of said image it may vary between 6 and 24 hours Russell Wilson (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Epic High Five posted:I've come across a mathematically perfect picture of a rat, who wants an 18 hour probe with it as the reason? First come first serve Could use a mental break. Power Word: Rat me (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) BlueBlazer fucked around with this message at 15:30 on May 27, 2022 |
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