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Nah, it's sound to care enough to ask, and if you don't speak Irish there's literally no way to guess how a thing is gonna sound. Plus there's a whole different bunch of dialects so everyone is simultaneously wrong and offended by each other's pronunciation, it's fun
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Failed Imagineer posted:Nah, it's sound to care enough to ask, and if you don't speak Irish there's literally no way to guess how a thing is gonna sound. Plus there's a whole different bunch of dialects so everyone is simultaneously wrong and offended by each other's pronunciation, it's fun That's the spirit I intended to ask and I'm glad it came across that way but even so, I was having a dig at others for not being respectful while inventing some new mispronunciation myself, which is not a good look.
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May 27, 2022 09:16
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Failed Imagineer posted:Nah, it's sound to care enough to ask, and if you don't speak Irish there's literally no way to guess how a thing is gonna sound. Plus there's a whole different bunch of dialects so everyone is simultaneously wrong and offended by each other's pronunciation, it's fun This has also been my experience of the UK tbf. Scone.
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May 27, 2022 09:16
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My English partner thinks it's hilarious that I pronounce suede to rhyme with head. I know its wrong but I'm going to keep doing it anyway dammit.
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May 27, 2022 09:19
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Start pronouncing suit, suite, suet, suede, sweat, and swede the same way.
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May 27, 2022 09:20
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Scone rhymes with done, prove me wrong.
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May 27, 2022 09:25
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Lungboy posted:AIUI, CBBC and BBC4 are going online only rather than getting fully axed. This is just going to result in every road sign in the land being replaced so it has English, Irish, Ulster Scots on it. And you will be able to tell what kind of neighbourhood you are entering by the Irish/Ulster Scots not crossed out by graffiti. Failed Imagineer posted:Nah, it's sound to care enough to ask, and if you don't speak Irish there's literally no way to guess how a thing is gonna sound. Plus there's a whole different bunch of dialects so everyone is simultaneously wrong and offended by each other's pronunciation, it's fun We had Irish teachers that pronounced the same words differently so yeah.
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May 27, 2022 09:33
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It still breaks my brain some of the ways my american wife pronounces things. Like soldering iron as sawdering iron. Pronunciation is fun and awesome and I kinda love all the differences.
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May 27, 2022 09:33
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Mebh posted:It still breaks my brain some of the ways my american wife pronounces things. Like soldering iron as sawdering iron. Nothing is worse than the American way of saying niche
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May 27, 2022 09:42
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Mebh posted:It still breaks my brain some of the ways my american wife pronounces things. Like soldering iron as sawdering iron. Sawdering or soddering isn't universal among americans even, some of them say soldering. I say lödning.
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May 27, 2022 09:45
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Mebh posted:It still breaks my brain some of the ways my american wife pronounces things. Like soldering iron as sawdering iron. If anyone here is unfamiliar with the hilarity that is the magnificent ancient language of “Ulster Scots” I urge you to Google some examples
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May 27, 2022 09:50
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Pablo Bluth posted:Nothing is worse than the American way 
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Pablo Bluth posted:Nothing is worse than the American way of saying niche Plus his legacy was abused by his sister and the Nazis after he died
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May 27, 2022 09:53
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Pablo Bluth posted:Nothing is worse than the American way of saying niche Ah yes but have you considered "clique"  The worst part is thanks to American missus I now have a combination US and Irish accent+vocab, the most cursed of all possibilities
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May 27, 2022 09:54
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mrpwase posted:Plus his legacy was abused by his sister and the Nazis after he died
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May 27, 2022 09:55
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No one ever considers whether Baby Hitler would in fact be too powerful to kill
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ah yes but have you considered "clique" Buoys are buoyant because they have buoyancy.
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May 27, 2022 10:01
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Buoys are buoyant because they have buoyancy. I pronounce all 3 the same, I know many don't but they're wrong
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Buoys are buoyant because they have buoyancy. boyo
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Pablo Bluth posted:Nothing is worse than the American way of saying niche counterpoint, an American trying to say "twat"
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May 27, 2022 10:26
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Scikar posted:So, serious question: "shin fane" is obviously the English approximation and a lot of people saying it that way have no interest in or respect for the pronunciation in Irish. But for people who do, shouldn't it be more like "shin fayun"?  It's pronounced "keen-wah".
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May 27, 2022 10:27
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Isn't "shin fayun" best standard English transliteration of how Gerry Adams says it? (Though his 'shin' would be half way between shin and shun). I can definitely 'hear' it in his voice. Did look on YouTube for a few seconds to see if I could get one with him saying it but couldnt be arsed to keep looking.
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May 27, 2022 10:32
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:counterpoint, an American trying to say "twat" I can accept that different accents have different pronunciations of the same word, "twat" and "swat" rhyming sounds awful to my ears, but whatever, I can deal. Rhyming Glasgow with cow, on the other hand, is a bridge too loving far, but I'm always pleasantly surprised to hear it pronounced correctly. Side note, I am campaigning to label the act of updating your bio to include (she/her) or (they/them) or similar "pronounciation".
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May 27, 2022 10:35
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Reveilled posted:I am campaigning to label the act of updating your bio to include (she/her) or (they/them) or similar "pronounciation". Actions speak louder than words. What are your proverbs?
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May 27, 2022 10:45
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Jedit posted:Actions speak louder than words. What are your proverbs? They're coming right up, after these adverbs!
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May 27, 2022 10:58
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Mebh posted:It still breaks my brain some of the ways my american wife pronounces things. Like soldering iron as sawdering iron. Try living in the Highlands where half the places are impenetrable to a native English speaker. loving bh and dh melt my tiny brain. For example, Bhatarsaigh is the Gaelic for an island in the Outer Hebridies. How do you think you'd pronounce that? (If you know, don't spoil it for the Sassenachs) And yes, Glascow is a war crime
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Behold: https://twitter.com/_goldengod69/status/1529873504673447938 From here: https://stiffupperquip.substack.com/p/reflections-on-being-called-bald
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Isn't "shin fayun" best standard English transliteration of how Gerry Adams says it? (Though his 'shin' would be half way between shin and shun). I can definitely 'hear' it in his voice. Here you go… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w6UhXivPyw4
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Comrade Fakename posted:Behold:
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forkboy84 posted:Try living in the Highlands where half the places are impenetrable to a native English speaker. loving bh and dh melt my tiny brain. For example, Bhatarsaigh is the Gaelic for an island in the Outer Hebridies. How do you think you'd pronounce that? My favourite is watching anyone who doesn't already know pronounce "Milngavie".
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May 27, 2022 11:09
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LOL I do remember the days when BBC weren't allowed to let him use his own voice and used voice-over actors instead. I think GA said it made him sound much better than his own speaking voice.
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May 27, 2022 11:11
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Pablo Bluth posted:Nothing is worse than the American way of saying niche They pronounce it the same way they pronounce Nietzsche, which they also pronounce wrong
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"Mankind does not strive for happiness; only the English do" may have been the wrongest thing that Nietzsche said.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:LOL It was probably not knowing how he sounded like ended up how my uncle in law was once mistaken for Gerry Adams at an IRA funeral. He sorta looked like Gerry back then if you squinted. He was getting random handshakes from all around, and didn't twig until it was too late. He got the gently caress out of there quick.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:LOL What was the actual logic behind that. Did they think he had some kind of neurolinguistic superpowers?
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Lord of the Llamas posted:What was the actual logic behind that. Did they think he had some kind of neurolinguistic superpowers? On 19 October 1988, the Home Secretary, Douglas Hurd, issued a notice under clause 13(4) of the BBC Licence and Agreement to the BBC and under section 29(3) of the Broadcasting Act 1981 to the Independent Broadcasting Authority prohibiting the broadcast of direct statements by representatives or supporters of eleven Irish political and military organisations.[7][8] The ban prevented the UK news media from broadcasting the voices, though not the words, of ten Irish republican and Ulster loyalist paramilitary groups, as well as Sinn Féin.[2][4] Among the other groups affected were the Provisional IRA, Irish National Liberation Army, Ulster Defence Association and the Ulster Volunteer Force, although the ban was targeted primarily at Sinn Féin.[2][3] Addressing the House of Commons on the ban, Hurd said, "the terrorists themselves draw support and sustenance from access to radio and television ... the time has come to deny this easy platform to those who use it to propagate terrorism",[3][9] while the Conservative Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, said it would "deny terrorists the oxygen of publicity".
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Lord of the Llamas posted:What was the actual logic behind that. Did they think he had some kind of neurolinguistic superpowers? So you only heard the government's view on whats happening. Simple as.
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keep punching joe posted:"deny terrorists the oxygen of publicity". Deny terrorists the oxygen to speak, but replace it with sulfur hexafluoride
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That's how you get Barry White supremacists.
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bh and dh at least show up in personal names you might come across and you can just stress the nearest English phoneme for people to take it over see ob han or tad huh gu Milngavie is bullshit and wikis origin of the name sounds like a multi century game of telephone played through google translate, featuring at least one bh/dh switch
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