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Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



zoux posted:

Also this is the first time we've ever seen a black hole in a Star Trek series, which is a bit like making 1000 episodes of a dinosaur show without ever mentioning a T-rex. All of this to say this is the most "actually in space" Star Trek series after just four episodes and I absolutely love it.

We saw the quantum singularity in a romulan engine before.

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Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Wheeee posted:

fuckin goons never heard of moisturizer and spf

We're all programmed to see people in their 30s like people in their 30s were in 1980.
Just look at the cast of cheers!

I get told ALL THE TIME people think I'm in my 20s because people in their 30s are meant to look old. It's not just goons!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wheeee posted:

have pike do the fortnite dance after blowing up the enemy ship so i can relate more to the show

Chekov: Ahhh yes, Fortnite. Very popular 21st Century game. Invented by Russian.
Spock, Kirk and McCoy: :mmmhmm:

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



I was wondering why there were 3 new pages since I last read this thread and none of it was hating on the latest episode of a Star Trek show. We've really come a long way.

Y'know, something that occurred to me as I was watching this episode but forgot to mention in previous posts: This felt like a season finale. Did anyone else notice that or was it just me? Not that it really wrapped anything up but just... the absolute beating the ship took and the level of drama and action... it all felt very finale-ish to me. It makes me wonder what the actual season finale's gonna be like.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1530330502577721346?t=UyQ2wk9m471Jk8d5JnfKyw&s=19
The Disco badge is a nice touch.

Also i thought the "USS" abbreviation was about as well-explained as Stardates but apparently they did eventually settle on United Space Ship, and just SS is Survey Ship

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DaveKap posted:

I was wondering why there were 3 new pages since I last read this thread and none of it was hating on the latest episode of a Star Trek show. We've really come a long way.

Y'know, something that occurred to me as I was watching this episode but forgot to mention in previous posts: This felt like a season finale. Did anyone else notice that or was it just me? Not that it really wrapped anything up but just... the absolute beating the ship took and the level of drama and action... it all felt very finale-ish to me. It makes me wonder what the actual season finale's gonna be like.

I wonder if the ship is still gonna be hosed up or still being repaired next episode. Either way I feel much more optimistic about this series, but I remember how Voyager largely discarded that idea of the ship getting continuously worn down very quickly, while Enterprise tried to make it a thing but it never really felt like they were pulling it off.

Gotta admit, the last three episodes of SNW have been so good after I was let down by the first episode, and this latest episode SO good that I'm kinda jonesing for more Star Trek and thinking about tracking down and catching up on Discovery after all. I forgot how Trek used to be so effective at getting its hooks into me, it's been so long since I saw a genuinely quality Trek series (DS9).

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Jerusalem posted:

I wonder if the ship is still gonna be hosed up or still being repaired next episode.

“Captain’s Log, Stardate 3294.6 After 2 weeks spent undergoing repairs at Starbase 47, the Enterprise is finally back out there.”

darkgray
Dec 20, 2005

My best pose facing the morning sun!
Did I miss something, or has SNW's Kirk just vanished since his outing in ep 2? Still recovering?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

darkgray posted:

Did I miss something, or has SNW's Kirk just vanished since his outing in ep 2? Still recovering?

Based on that mustache, he's refusing to come out of his quarters until they install carpet on the bridge like he was promised: shag carpet.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

Jerusalem posted:

Based on that mustache, he's refusing to come out of his quarters until they install carpet on the bridge like he was promised: shag carpet.

Based on his mustache, the prime universe is too bright for his evil eyes

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Snow Cone Capone posted:

https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1530330502577721346?t=UyQ2wk9m471Jk8d5JnfKyw&s=19
The Disco badge is a nice touch.

Also i thought the "USS" abbreviation was about as well-explained as Stardates but apparently they did eventually settle on United Space Ship, and just SS is Survey Ship

awww they're being sold on fansets which already confirmed they will not ship to australia

rip why does star trek keep doing this to me


e: oh poo poo they just started shipping here again this week
well, rip my pay cheque then

Mx. fucked around with this message at 13:54 on May 28, 2022

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


Charity Porno posted:

I can't place it quite yet but something about the way Anson Mount carries himself is very 60s but from a 2022 standpoint. Like he's missing the casual misogyny and the toxic masculinity, but he still exudes that core "traditional values" type stuff from TOS. It's an interesting choice and I wonder how much is direction and how much is just a decision he made

He has confidence and screen presence, which is rare these days. Hell, even rarer, not many actors are able to exude their presence even when they are offscreen

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule


Pretty sick, although I'd dial back the crinkle texture a bit.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


I don't know if it's been mentioned so far, but the music during the gorn fight scenes, especially the initial "evasive action" part, was tense but stayed in the background.

Like they copied the TOS music style and it sounds very very considerate and tense when it needs to be, but it is definitely not typical for action scenes in tv or movies these days.

I thought it was a nice throwback, and also just a nice touch on the whole.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


some kinda jackal posted:

I’m so incredibly tired of “prestige” drama TV. Just let me have this fun sci-fi romp. Make it exciting. Make it stupid. Make it campy.

The four most important parts of a sci fi show are camp, ham, cheese, and corn.

It has to be just a touch corny, camp, and cheesy, and you absolutely need just a smidgen of ham acting now and then. Otherwise it's not science fiction

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

The episode had some nice (coincidental?) U.S. Memorial Day/Starfleet Remembrance Day timing

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




when they were preparing to do the "Pike Manoeuvre" my mind immediately started playing the Lower Decks theme. It's actually kind of cool to now have two (good, I should specify) Trek shows in different eras. In SNW we have them figuring out risky things the first time, then in LDS they do similar things as part of their daily routine on a utility ship

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

alexandriao posted:

The four most important parts of a sci fi show are camp, ham, cheese, and corn.

It has to be just a touch corny, camp, and cheesy, and you absolutely need just a smidgen of ham acting now and then. Otherwise it's not science fiction

I love dutch oven campfire recipes!

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
I hope USS Cuyahoga was destroyed when it randomly caught fire one day.

alexandriao posted:

I thought it was a nice throwback, and also just a nice touch on the whole.

And we all need a nice touch on the whole from time to time.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


What's dumber than the morse code thing? Ten pages of an argument about it that didn't progress beyond:

- They flash lights to their ships

- Oh, but the morse code to english alphabet is the problem

- No but you see the lights flashing in the flashback

zoux posted:

Remember when they discovered that transporters can reverse the aging process and then never mentioned that to anyone ever again

Literally this.

Spock's Brain is canon, everyone. Who the gently caress cares about something that appears for like 5 minutes in a 45 minute episode lol

Orthanc6 posted:

Issue there is that requires writers who can maintain a serialized story arc across multiple seasons, which some argue BSG didn't even do well (what was the Cylons' Plan again?) and NuTrek has shown they are very not good at doing even 1 serialized season.

JMS writing Trek would blow my mind into smithereens

Craptacular! posted:

so you have the orchestra that won't shut up. TNG becomes itself when people realized that a television can be silent for a moment without people rapidly changing the channel.

Imagine not liking Ron Jones' work :allears:

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


Also imagine implying that the best part of TNG is after The Best Of Both Worlds :laffo:

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
TNG sucked rear end until Seven showed up

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Imagine thinking that the Borg would be anywhere near as memorable without this score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrZ7E2WC3RI

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
i bet the borg cube model was fun to build, i wonder if they just bought a hundred random tank and plan modeling sets and just started gluing them in a cube shape, keeping the molding sprue frame intact in many cases

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


Eimi posted:

Imagine thinking that the Borg would be anywhere near as memorable without this score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrZ7E2WC3RI

The kicker is the guy who scored that was actually fired by Rick Berman after season 3 because, and I quote:

Craptacular! posted:

the orchestra won't shut up

(Rick Berman is on record saying almost exactly the same iirc)

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

This episode had some pretty rough edges, much like episode 1. But they seem to know how to handle character development and story structure, so they're light years beyond disco and Picard.

A lot of the new trek baggage like tragic backstories for everyone and huge spiky black ships are annoying and I hope they will drop them.

But the show has a lot of positive qualities!

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Khanstant posted:

i bet the borg cube model was fun to build, i wonder if they just bought a hundred random tank and plan modeling sets and just started gluing them in a cube shape, keeping the molding sprue frame intact in many cases

IIRC that is exactly what they did.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Aces High posted:

when they were preparing to do the "Pike Manoeuvre" my mind immediately started playing the Lower Decks theme. It's actually kind of cool to now have two (good, I should specify) Trek shows in different eras. In SNW we have them figuring out risky things the first time, then in LDS they do similar things as part of their daily routine on a utility ship

I immediately thought of the Lower Decks episode where the crew was being evaluated. One of the situations Cpt. Freeman put the Cerritos into was nearly identical to what happened in Memento Mori, except in the former case it only carried the illusion of danger.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

HD DAD posted:

IIRC that is exactly what they did.

wiki had some cool pics

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Snow Cone Capone posted:

https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1530330502577721346?t=UyQ2wk9m471Jk8d5JnfKyw&s=19
The Disco badge is a nice touch.

Also i thought the "USS" abbreviation was about as well-explained as Stardates but apparently they did eventually settle on United Space Ship, and just SS is Survey Ship

I assume Pike was wearing the Disco pin but I kinda wonder who was wearing the Shenzou one.

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Polaron posted:

I assume Pike was wearing the Disco pin but I kinda wonder who was wearing the Shenzou one.

Kyle I think:

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Kyle must suffer.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Jerusalem posted:

this latest episode SO good that I'm kinda jonesing for more Star Trek and thinking about tracking down and catching up on Discovery after all.
There's over a thousand pages of thread that want to know why you won't read them.

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


zoux posted:

Do you guys think they're gonna show the Gorn this season, or is that reveal later down the line? I think they should continue to build them up as this invisible, implacable menace and when we finally get our first glimpse of them in like season 4 they are straight up dudes in rubber suits. Just obvious costumes like in Arena.

We as the audience might get to see the Gorn but I doubt the crew will, as Spock had no idea what they looked like until the Gorn Captain showed up on the viewscreen during Arena*. We did see one in Enterprise though.



Edit: *IIRC

GATOS Y VATOS fucked around with this message at 21:10 on May 28, 2022

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006



Apparently they have a wild costume coming up for Ortegas/Melissa Navia. Wonder what that's going to be in?

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Ya I’m not a Star Trek lore master but idk, I feel like there has to be some swerve with the Gorn. I feel like normally when shows go out of their way to not show you something it’s setting up for something. Did the Gorn click at each other in Arena or on TLD (is TLD worth watching? All the trailers made it look like poo poo from my rear end)?

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Arglebargle III posted:



Apparently they have a wild costume coming up for Ortegas/Melissa Navia. Wonder what that's going to be in?

In the season previews we see scenes from an episode that looks like the crew have to blend in with an alien pre-industrial society of some sort. I’m guessing it’s from that.

FishFood
Apr 1, 2012

Now with brine shrimp!

fadam posted:

Ya I’m not a Star Trek lore master but idk, I feel like there has to be some swerve with the Gorn. I feel like normally when shows go out of their way to not show you something it’s setting up for something. Did the Gorn click at each other in Arena or on TLD (is TLD worth watching? All the trailers made it look like poo poo from my rear end)?

Lower Decks is good. The first episode and a half are pretty bad and I think were made to convince the suits that they were making a lovely Family Guy knockoff before transitioning into making what they actually wanted to make; a classic Star Trek show with the episodes condensed into 30 minutes, a few more jokes, and an effectively infinite effects budget due to the animated format. Show is good.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

FishFood posted:

Lower Decks is good. The first episode and a half are pretty bad and I think were made to convince the suits that they were making a lovely Family Guy knockoff before transitioning into making what they actually wanted to make; a classic Star Trek show with the episodes condensed into 30 minutes, a few more jokes, and an effectively infinite effects budget due to the animated format. Show is good.

My personal metric for when Lower Decks gets legitimately good is the moment when Ransom loses his shirt in episode 3.

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I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Jerusalem posted:

I wonder if the ship is still gonna be hosed up or still being repaired next episode. Either way I feel much more optimistic about this series, but I remember how Voyager largely discarded that idea of the ship getting continuously worn down very quickly, while Enterprise tried to make it a thing but it never really felt like they were pulling it off.

Gotta admit, the last three episodes of SNW have been so good after I was let down by the first episode, and this latest episode SO good that I'm kinda jonesing for more Star Trek and thinking about tracking down and catching up on Discovery after all. I forgot how Trek used to be so effective at getting its hooks into me, it's been so long since I saw a genuinely quality Trek series (DS9).

I figured the Enterprise being in drydock would be the excuse for next episode being apparently focused on Spock and his fiancee. They've got some time off to deal with personal junk.

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