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HootTheOwl posted:I never watched SAC all the way through sequentially as a kid but man did I forget how horny this show is for the major. There's a lot of gratuitous rear end shots in S1, especially in the first few episodes, but they kind of get over it as the show goes on. I don't think they ever really explain why she's a barbie doll. In a world where cyborgs exists I doubt people would underestimate her based on her looks so it's hard to see any tactical advantage in that configuration. It does make for a good beauty and the beast aesthetic with Motoko and Batou, but it does not appear that their differing body shapes translate into any particular field specialities; if anything The Major can outdo anyone on her team. I guess the point has mainly been to emphasize that her body is literally just an object by objectifying it as much as possible.
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thotsky posted:There's a lot of gratuitous rear end shots in S1, especially in the first few episodes, but they kind of get over it as the show goes on. There's that episode where Batou tells her she should get a male body,, and she says no. iirc it ends on a shot of her looking at herself and smiling. I think the idea is that she likes her body. It is fully artificial, it is specifically designed for combat, but it's hers and she likes it. So I think that the sexy clothes could be seen as her making a statement that her body is more than just a machine for doing her job. There's not much to support that beyond something implied in that one epsiode, but it makes sense.
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if i could get an artificial body i'd want it to be something i thought was hot as gently caress tbf
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just about the entirety of the GiTS creator’s 21st century output has been porn. I don’t think there’s a very deep reason why the major looks the way she does
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Gripweed posted:There's that episode where Batou tells her she should get a male body,, and she says no. iirc it ends on a shot of her looking at herself and smiling. I think the idea is that she likes her body. It is fully artificial, it is specifically designed for combat, but it's hers and she likes it. The point is that the Major is such a powerful intelligence officer she can hack into anyone's cyberbrain and manipulate them into doing her bidding. Having a male chassis just for the combat specs would be pointless, which is why she chooses a body that fits her self image. Being hyper capable is how the Major is able to realize her sense of self. Which is a nice contrast to the movie, where the Major is constantly having existential doubts about the authenticity of her Self.
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I'm just glad they toned it down so I could focus on the adorable spider tanks talking with each other about their philo 101 homework.
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Augus posted:just about the entirety of the GiTS creator’s 21st century output has been porn. I don’t think there’s a very deep reason why the major looks the way she does Masamune Shirow is an insanely horny dude and fortunately he was able to channel it into some good stories
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An anime creator is insanely horny, how out of character (that it's for adult women)
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KomradeX posted:An anime creator is insanely horny, how out of character (that it's for adult women) and strangely oily horse dudes
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May 30, 2022 05:22
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she dresses like that because the major's one weakness is her absolutely godawful fashion sense. well, that and swimming but that's common to all cyborgs.
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Kitfox88 posted:and strangely oily horse dudes They got to be weird about something
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the major is a brain and spinal column that loves babes, and being a babe maintaining her vast wizard level(?) hacker intellect just happens to require, I dunno, her robo hips being exposed. like heat sinks.
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She is a trans lesbian, which is why we almost never see her gently caress and why she dresses like a nerd who got hot
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Kit Walker posted:Masamune Shirow is an insanely horny dude and fortunately he was able to channel it into some good stories picking up the gits manga in 2021 is weird, it's just a bunch of random stories with little connecting tissue it reminds me of old comiczines
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tokin opposition posted:She is a trans lesbian, which is why we almost never see her gently caress and why she dresses like a nerd who got hot She's trans? It's been a v long time since I've watched GitS but from memory she was born a woman who stuck with a feminine cyborg body despite masculine ones performing better. I believe this is brought up in a discussion between her and Batou in the first movie. I could be wrong so please correct me if I am. I think in ARISE, which does not take place in the same universe as the movies or SAC, the argument can be made Kusanagi is genderfluid
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She transitioned into being a full body cyborg.
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tokin opposition posted:She is a trans lesbian, which is why we almost never see her gently caress and why she dresses like a nerd who got hot makes sense to me
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Honest Thief posted:picking up the gits manga in 2021 is weird, it's just a bunch of random stories with little connecting tissue That's what really killed me about the American GitS movie. They could've made a big budget sci-fi action movie with a standard action plot that was just as if not more faithful to the original manga
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American GitS is one of the best examples of bad adaptation ever made. Even the whole race transplant subplot doesn't make any sense within the logic of the universe, and feels like they're lampshading casting Scarjo as the Major. It apes the aesthetics of the franchise while saying nothing interesting about it and completely misunderstanding the subject matter. In fact, what it says is stupid. It's worse than nothing.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:American GitS is one of the best examples of bad adaptation ever made. Even the whole race transplant subplot doesn't make any sense within the logic of the universe, and feels like they're lampshading casting Scarjo as the Major. It apes the aesthetics of the franchise while saying nothing interesting about it and completely misunderstanding the subject matter. In fact, what it says is stupid. It's worse than nothing. yeah, its big themes are cyberpunk 101 and fall flat on gits because it's like, yeah AI has reached consciousness level and the characters in the movie treat it like it's a novelty the whole production design tho, is quite amazing, which reminds me of another movie adaptation that didnt get its source material but visually looked pretty nice was max payne's
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:American GitS is one of the best examples of bad adaptation ever made. Even the whole race transplant subplot doesn't make any sense within the logic of the universe, and feels like they're lampshading casting Scarjo as the Major. It apes the aesthetics of the franchise while saying nothing interesting about it and completely misunderstanding the subject matter. In fact, what it says is stupid. It's worse than nothing. That seems to be a running theme enen Hollywood's adapts anything, but especially anime. Netflix Bebop comes to mind of amb adaptation that seems to have a complete misunderstanding of the source material and a need full avoid saying anything outside of accepted liberalism that that material may imply KomradeX has issued a correction as of 13:56 on May 30, 2022 |
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Newest show I got through from my backlog of shows that look good but didn't have time for: Mushoku Tensei is really loving good. The literary qualities are what really makes it stand out from all the other copycat isekai stories that followed in its wake. You're always getting the sense that the world is way richer than its surface level reading, in context, history, and culture. The protagonist even starts off engaging with the world as if it is just another RPG or eroge, only to have harsh reality thrown back into his face. Taking all of its problematic elements seriously, and head on, really sets it apart from the conventions of the genre it spawned. The first two episodes feel like a fun escapist romp, and then episode 3 blindsides the plot by being about cheating and domestic strife. You're always getting the sense that the world is as hosed up as it is due to the weight of history, family, and politics. It's an infinitely complex system in which meaningful change can only be realized gradually, and even the protagonist who begins his new life only thinking of how he can exploit the world and the people around him has to be gradually refined slowly over the course of an entire lifespan into someone who's worthy of love and praise. And he's definitely not there by the time you reach the end of the current anime run. But at the beginning it can be a very hard slog to see where it's going. The genre is weighted down with so many expectations of power fantasy & exploitation that it at first feels like a kind of wish fulfillment, but the problematic elements go uncommented upon by the manchild protagonist - not by the text. What made me realize there's something really special about Mushoku Tensei is what happens to Paul, the dad. After a while in the story there's some magical doohickey that starts floating in the sky over the local region, and nobody knows what's up with it. It's part of a plot that's completely incidental to everything we can actually see in the story, and it ends up manifesting into a mana disaster that teleports everyone in the entire region to random spots in the world. Because there's so much depth to the world, this isn't a problem that can be instantly resolved with magic. Everybody is missing and split off into their own threads where traveling across a single continent can take an entire year. In that time, Paul undergoes a complete character arc where he's transformed from a philanderer, rapist, glorified pest control, and ok dad into a champion of the missing who organizes an entire order dedicated to recovering the teleported and rescuing many of them from slavery. Losing his family and people, and trying to find them again while dealing with an indifferent and exploitative world, is an excruciating experience that reduces Paul to a bitter drunk. To the point where he resents his own son for his ignorance about the full impact of the disaster, and the fact that he hasn't been suffering for the sake of others in his journey home. Even if he's reduced to an emotional wreck, and even if he was a scumbag, the years Paul spends in selfless service to others are the greatest thing he's ever done with his life. For Paul, being teleported and alienated from almost everyone and everything he cared about was like being Isekai'd within the Isekai. He grows from being a 30 year old manchild (about the same age Rudeus was when he originally died), into a fully realized adult. It's a promise that the protagonist will undergo the same change, even if it's going to be over a much longer time span. tl;dr: this is some dramatic rear end poo poo that I was not expecting at all. The depth of heart is genuinely exceptional, even compared to anime in general let alone Isekai.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Newest show I got through from my backlog of shows that look good but didn't have time for: Mushoku Tensei is really loving good. yeah that sounds great, isn't that the show where the main guy is a pedophile, who enjoys being reincarnated so he can molest little girls? that's a no from me, dawg. never gonna watch that poo poo
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Mirello posted:yeah that sounds great, isn't that the show where the main guy is a pedophile, who enjoys being reincarnated so he can molest little girls? that's a no from me, dawg. never gonna watch that poo poo He's a bad man. Whether or not you can tolerate his nonsense depends on how much you like the rest of the cast. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 15:35 on May 30, 2022 |
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the best thing about Mushoku Tensei is that it's an isekai that actually feels like a real adventure story, with places to explores, different cultures, peoples and mindsets. Like usually in an isekai* the elements of the story are trope-y enough that just reading words like "the church" or "the adventurer's guild" mean that you immediately know what is going on because they always use the same (tired) concepts so often the exposition scene can be done in one page. In Mushoku you see "the beastfolk of the forest" or "that one demon tribe on that one island" and you think "hey they are neat I hope I get to learn more about them". ngl though the MC is loving scum (at first, he gets better) and I totally get it if he is too off putting for your personal taste though again I'd advise to try and power through. * I've read so much of that trash that I graduated to villainess isekai and it's also starting to get old.
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Calibanibal posted:Isekai should probably be purged in a Stalinesque fashion done
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Srice posted:done Thank you
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Mirello posted:yeah that sounds great, isn't that the show where the main guy is a pedophile, who enjoys being reincarnated so he can molest little girls? that's a no from me, dawg. never gonna watch that poo poo lmao i was just looking up the show and the top reviews on MAL are all complaining that the main character is a disgusting pedophile, which says a lot coming from that place
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Calibanibal posted:Isekai should probably be purged in a Stalinesque fashion I choked on blood and died, and now I have to help my Motherland become a Superpower? Again?!?!?!?!
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Mirello posted:yeah that sounds great, isn't that the show where the main guy is a pedophile, who enjoys being reincarnated so he can molest little girls? that's a no from me, dawg. never gonna watch that poo poo its very funny that it never got an anime precisely because its peak japan but they finally did one presumably because they’ve been drilling source material dry.
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Homeless Friend posted:its very funny that it never got an anime precisely because its peak japan but they finally did one presumably because they’ve been drilling source material dry. It's even funnier because all the source material that has stood in for what the mass market thinks of as "isekai" are all pale imitations of the original. Even in Re: Zero, the main character is a shut-in loser with self esteem issues and a creep towards women, but you never get the sense he's a bad guy. Mushoku Tensei never pulls its punches, which is what makes it feel like something actually worth experiencing compared to the mountain of derivative trash.
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Calibanibal posted:I smiled for 5 seconds about an anime where the protagonist is a native of a magical world and he kills isekai heroes as they arrive. Then felt sick to my stomach because I realized it has to have been done a dozen times already There's an anime this season that's a lesbian adventure romp which is exactly that premise. The main character is an assassin who kills Isekai protagonists, until she has to kill a nice Japanese school girl - which is when she has second thoughts.
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mushoku tensei has a big arc where our 30 something protagonist loses his virginity to his 14 year old girlfriend and has to go to magic school to cure his phimosis no I didn't make that up
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Bro Dad posted:mushoku tensei has a big arc where our 30 something protagonist loses his virginity to his 14 year old girlfriend and has to go to magic school to cure his phimosis that sounds bit more extreme than just some ‘nonsense you gotta tolerate’, if the west made that it would instantly be in the Epstein thread lmfao
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