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Vykk.Draygo: Jan 17, 2004; I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

Xaris posted:

Okay I'm kind of at my wits end here. I've got Plex running on my Synology NAS all hooked up with sonarr/radarr/sabnzbg/etc and generally playing content on my LG CX oled. Starting around maybe about 9 months ago a lot of releases have started playing with green-purple hues all over everything (and if I try to watch Plex on my PC, I get "Color Space Not Supported"). I can't tell from Sonarr/Radarrs file listing what exactly is causing it but it appears to be related to Dolby Vision although it's usually not marked in file names. I've had to go through about 10 different downloads to find one that finally worked. I didn't use to have an issue with HDR content so this is really something that's only sprung up recently and no idea why HDR suddenly is loving everything up?

What the gently caress do I need to blacklist from NZBHydra/*arr programs, or is there any way to fix my LG CX/Plex such that DV content plays without it all being colored purple/green? I guess I could force requiring "SDR" in title but even that doesnt meant every listing will have it or not have it; and I kinda liked having HDR working before.

A quick Google search suggests that the CX supports Dolby Vision. Have you turned it on? I think it's off by default on most devices. Also check to see if Plex has any sort of DV settings.

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# ? May 15, 2024 18:40

Burden: Jul 25, 2006

Xaris posted:

Okay I'm kind of at my wits end here. I've got Plex running on my Synology NAS all hooked up with sonarr/radarr/sabnzbg/etc and generally playing content on my LG CX oled. Starting around maybe about 9 months ago a lot of releases have started playing with green-purple hues all over everything (and if I try to watch Plex on my PC, I get "Color Space Not Supported"). I can't tell from Sonarr/Radarrs file listing what exactly is causing it but it appears to be related to Dolby Vision although it's usually not marked in file names. I've had to go through about 10 different downloads to find one that finally worked. I didn't use to have an issue with HDR content so this is really something that's only sprung up recently and no idea why HDR suddenly is loving everything up?

What the gently caress do I need to blacklist from NZBHydra/*arr programs, or is there any way to fix my LG CX/Plex such that DV content plays without it all being colored purple/green? I guess I could force requiring "SDR" in title but even that doesnt meant every listing will have it or not have it; and I kinda liked having HDR working before.

Are the files 10Bit? That caused a lot of issues for my users and blocking 10Bit helped.

# ? May 30, 2022 14:11

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

I created a tag that excludes DV from releases, and added that tag to shows that I want in HDR but not DV. I can find the exact code later but it's all laid out in trash's guides. I did this because when DV is enabled, the TV goes into a whole different mode, so I have change all the calibrations and remember to do that if I ever change them later.

# ? May 30, 2022 14:55

The Gillman: Jul 8, 2004; Beaten with a sack of sweet Valencia oranges; Grimey Drawer

EC posted:

I created a tag that excludes DV from releases, and added that tag to shows that I want in HDR but not DV. I can find the exact code later but it's all laid out in trash's guides. I did this because when DV is enabled, the TV goes into a whole different mode, so I have change all the calibrations and remember to do that if I ever change them later.

Thanks for this. I was having the same issue and couldn�t figure out how to block it

# ? May 30, 2022 15:14

EL BROMANCE: Jun 10, 2006; COWABUNGA DUDES!
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I find the vast majority of those files are marked with .DV. or .DoVi. in the folders even if the extracted file might not. Add those to exclusions.

I can�t play DV either but I find it just easier to have Radarr and Sonarr do everything in 1080 and if I want an upgrade I�ll do it myself. If they ever implement allowing multiple versions to exist I�ll do that but I don�t really want to go down the path of multiple instances.

# ? May 30, 2022 15:16

Armauk: Jun 23, 2021

Xaris posted:

Starting around maybe about 9 months ago a lot of releases have started playing with green-purple hues all over everything (and if I try to watch Plex on my PC, I get "Color Space Not Supported").

I've encountered this when I tried to play extremely high-definition files. What sizes are you downloading?

Another option is to see if a particular release group is the culprit. Does the same release group's (or groups') name appear in the filename for the offending movies?

# ? May 30, 2022 15:42

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
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Laugh and cry

Thanks everyone. Let me see what I can do

Vykk.Draygo posted:

A quick Google search suggests that the CX supports Dolby Vision. Have you turned it on? I think it's off by default on most devices. Also check to see if Plex has any sort of DV settings.

I didn't see anything under Plex specific about DV. But let me look more at my TV settings. It wouldnt solve the issue with Plex not playing the content on other devices (i.e. PC) but at least if I could watch it without it all being purple-green that would help

Armauk posted:

I've encountered this when I tried to play extremely high-definition files. What sizes are you downloading?

Another option is to see if a particular release group is the culprit. Does the same release group's (or groups') name appear in the filename for the offending movies?

Varies but between 6gb to 24GB.

Typically I'm not seeing release groups in a lot of the file names (or at least finished file names). I'll look more at a list of ones I had to go through before

Burden posted:

Are the files 10Bit? That caused a lot of issues for my users and blocking 10Bit helped.

I think they are, but I didn't use to have an issue with 10Bit content.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 30, 2022

# ? May 30, 2022 21:01

EL BROMANCE: Jun 10, 2006; COWABUNGA DUDES!
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It�s Dolby Vision. Just stop downloading Dolby Vision files.

# ? May 30, 2022 21:27

real_scud: Sep 5, 2002; One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you

EC posted:

...it's all laid out in trash's guides.

Holy poo poo I know this is slightly unrelated but this guide is bonkers and now I'm going to end up following it to a T because my install on my Synology system has been wonky since I upgraded to DSM7, so thanks for this!

# ? May 30, 2022 23:10

Aware: Nov 18, 2003

They're really good guides and his sensibilities about quality and releases match mine very closely. Great defaults to use imo.

# ? May 30, 2022 23:21

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
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EL BROMANCE posted:

It�s Dolby Vision. Just stop downloading Dolby Vision files.

It doesn't always list DV.

MOVIE.2022.REPACK.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.HDR.HEVC-MZABI
MOVIE2.2022.2160p.HDR.WebRip.x265.10Bit.AC3.5.1-JATT

how do I know those were supposed to be a DV file?

# ? May 30, 2022 23:32

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

real_scud posted:

Holy poo poo I know this is slightly unrelated but this guide is bonkers and now I'm going to end up following it to a T because my install on my Synology system has been wonky since I upgraded to DSM7, so thanks for this!

I jumped into some *arr discord servers when I was setting up my Synology server (I had no experience with the hardware or using Docker) and those guides were basically required reading. No one would help you with questions otherwise 😂

# ? May 30, 2022 23:34

Aware: Nov 18, 2003

Xaris posted:

It doesn't always list DV.

MOVIE.2022.REPACK.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.HDR.HEVC-MZABI
MOVIE2.2022.2160p.HDR.WebRip.x265.10Bit.AC3.5.1-JATT

how do I know those were supposed to be a DV file?

You can't, basically. I think Radarr can do some post unpack analysis on the file perhaps but I'm not sure if it can then detect DV and block the release/find another.

E. Looks like maybe it can now? https://github.com/Radarr/Radarr/issues/4844

Aware fucked around with this message at 00:01 on May 31, 2022

# ? May 30, 2022 23:58

alexandriao: Jul 20, 2019

I'm surprised they aren't using libmagic or ffprobe

# ? May 31, 2022 01:03

EL BROMANCE: Jun 10, 2006; COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Xaris posted:

It doesn't always list DV.

MOVIE.2022.REPACK.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.HDR.HEVC-MZABI
MOVIE2.2022.2160p.HDR.WebRip.x265.10Bit.AC3.5.1-JATT

how do I know those were supposed to be a DV file?

Give real file names and not this dumb Linux.Distro poo poo and someone can check it they�re actually mislabeled DV files or if there�s something else wrong with your setup. You�re not going to be arrested.

# ? May 31, 2022 01:53

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffmpeg/comments/qe7oq1/dolby_vision_from_mkv_to_mp4_using_ffmpeg_and/

This is how you fix it.

# ? May 31, 2022 03:01

Internet Explorer: Jun 1, 2005

It's still technically against forum rules to talk about filez. I know it's an awkward dance. At some point I'd like to work out some alternative guidance on the topic post-Lowtax, but for now, I think posting the exact Linux ISOs you're downloading is probably a bad idea. Frustrating, I know, but that's where we're at right now.

# ? May 31, 2022 04:12

Warbird: May 23, 2012; America's Favorite Dumbass

Whoah whoah whoah, you can use Usenet to do what?

# ? May 31, 2022 05:37

gabensraum: Sep 16, 2003; LOAD "NICE!",8,1

Xaris posted:

Okay I'm kind of at my wits end here

I had the same problem, but I found the issue (for me, anyway) was only in WEBDL and WEBRIP. Something about how they don't include the fallback format.

In Radarr I was able to take those into account, but making the following custom format, then setting it to a negative value in all of my download profiles.

code:

{
  "name": "DoVi (WEBDL)",
  "includeCustomFormatWhenRenaming": false,
  "specifications": [
    {
      "name": "Dolby Vision",
      "implementation": "ReleaseTitleSpecification",
      "negate": false,
      "required": true,
      "fields": {
        "value": "\\b(dv|dovi|dolby[ .]vision)\\b"
      }
    },
    {
      "name": "WEBDL",
      "implementation": "SourceSpecification",
      "negate": false,
      "required": false,
      "fields": {
        "value": 7
      }
    },
    {
      "name": "WEBRIP",
      "implementation": "SourceSpecification",
      "negate": false,
      "required": false,
      "fields": {
        "value": 8
      }
    }
  ]
}

Sonarr doesn't have such a fine-grained approach, but works well enough to enable a release profile and add this under the "Must Not Contain" section:

code:

/\b(dv|dovi|dolby[ .]vision)\b/i

# ? May 31, 2022 10:01

Violator: May 15, 2003

Is lidarr worth futzing around with? I'm getting frustrated with streaming services so I've decided to create a small collection of artists and albums in Plexamp for some of my core favorites and then use streaming just for curated playlists and music discovery. I hate the modern slow UIs and Plexamp seems a lot faster with less social bullshit and easier navigation for just browsing my music. But it seems like usenet has a lot less coverage than what I'm used to back in the old NMP3s days so I don't even know if it would be worth setting up lidarr if there just isn't much out there to grab.

# ? May 31, 2022 16:07

Silly Burrito: Nov 27, 2007; SET A COURSE FOR
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Warbird posted:

Whoah whoah whoah, you can use Usenet to do what?

Have thoughtful and intelligent conversations with strangers on the internet.

# ? May 31, 2022 16:09

wolrah: May 8, 2006; what?

H110Hawk posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffmpeg/comments/qe7oq1/dolby_vision_from_mkv_to_mp4_using_ffmpeg_and/

This is how you fix it.

If this is really it I'm going to be very annoyed, I've spent so much time going from release to release trying to get the best quality copies of whatever that I can actually get to play. All I was able to figure out was that Dolby Vision was the common element, but some DV content worked fine so it wasn't just broken.

Going to have to test this next time I get a problematic file.

# ? May 31, 2022 16:31

The Diddler: Jun 22, 2006

Violator posted:

Is lidarr worth futzing around with? I'm getting frustrated with streaming services so I've decided to create a small collection of artists and albums in Plexamp for some of my core favorites and then use streaming just for curated playlists and music discovery. I hate the modern slow UIs and Plexamp seems a lot faster with less social bullshit and easier navigation for just browsing my music. But it seems like usenet has a lot less coverage than what I'm used to back in the old NMP3s days so I don't even know if it would be worth setting up lidarr if there just isn't much out there to grab.

Personally, I wasn't able to find anything I wanted via lidarr. There's no real standard for tagging, so it's kinda a crapshoot.

# ? May 31, 2022 16:40

Enos Cabell: Nov 3, 2004

Yeah Lidarr kinda sucks through no fault of its own, just due to the nature of music on usenet being such a poo poo show. You'll be able to get new releases as they drop, but building a collection even with pretty mainstream artists is drat near impossible.

# ? May 31, 2022 17:11

more falafel please: Feb 26, 2005; forums poster

Lidarr can use A Thing That Isn't Usenet that I'm not sure if we're supposed to talk about here, and that Thing has private Things for music that are very, very, very good, but I definitely can't talk more about that here.

# ? May 31, 2022 17:41

Violator: May 15, 2003

Enos Cabell posted:

Yeah Lidarr kinda sucks through no fault of its own, just due to the nature of music on usenet being such a poo poo show. You'll be able to get new releases as they drop, but building a collection even with pretty mainstream artists is drat near impossible.

I've done pretty well with Lidarr. Maybe it's cause of the indexer I use?

# ? May 31, 2022 19:38

wolrah: May 8, 2006; what?

Lidarr has not done anything actively dumb for me in a couple of years but it's certainly not as effective or automatic as Sonarr/Radarr.

Whatever the music fork of the old Sickbeard/Couch Potato code was, that was horrific.

# ? May 31, 2022 20:35

kri kri: Jul 18, 2007

Headphones

# ? Jun 1, 2022 04:03

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

gabensraum posted:

I had the same problem, but I found the issue (for me, anyway) was only in WEBDL and WEBRIP. Something about how they don't include the fallback format.

In Radarr I was able to take those into account, but making the following custom format, then setting it to a negative value in all of my download profiles.
...

Sonarr doesn't have such a fine-grained approach, but works well enough to enable a release profile and add this under the "Must Not Contain" section:
code:
/\b(dv|dovi|dolby[ .]vision)\b/i

Thanks! I just stuck that into Radarr, i'll see how it turns out.

I havent had much issue with Sonarr, only came up with Severance with about half the episodes (funny enough, that was the first time I encountered the issue and I thought the show was intentionally stylized that way with green-purple until I got into an ep where it looked normal and i was like huh).

Really wish there was an easy toggle or something Plex

# ? Jun 1, 2022 06:53

kri kri: Jul 18, 2007

What clients are people using? I can't recall any issues Apple TV using infuse/plex on my LG oleds.

# ? Jun 1, 2022 15:42

Dyscrasia: Jun 23, 2003; Give Me Hamms Premium Draft or Give Me DEATH!!!!

I've had this with a sheild tv pro with Kodi through a denon receiver and a tcl tv. This setup works fine for dolby vision. The container compatibility problem must be what I'm hitting. I never transcode.

# ? Jun 2, 2022 00:44

wolrah: May 8, 2006; what?

wolrah posted:

Going to have to test this next time I get a problematic file.

Sure enough, had a file with the tags "WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HEVC" that was playing green on my CX. I had to grab a newer version of ffmpeg because Ubuntu still packages 4.4.x while DV support is new in 5.0, but I was then able to use the command

code:

ffmpeg -i input.mkv -c copy -strict unofficial output.mp4

and a few seconds later I had a MP4 file that played perfectly fine.

# ? Jun 2, 2022 01:54

Taima: Dec 31, 2006; tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

kri kri posted:

What clients are people using? I can't recall any issues Apple TV using infuse/plex on my LG oleds.

Infuse is god�s own media player

# ? Jun 2, 2022 13:03

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma; Lipstick Apathy

I can play DV in quicktime on my mac if I remux to mp4, then I can airplay it to my appletv. Which is pretty dumb since plex should just handle it.

# ? Jun 2, 2022 15:12

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

Roku (and others?) don't support DV inside MKV. Only mp4. That's it.

# ? Jun 3, 2022 03:08

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

I've been on TweakNews since I switched off Astraweb waaaay back, but they struggle to crack 25MB/sec and tonight they were dropping to low single digits while BlockNews hits a solid 50MB/sec. Is there a new top provider out there that won't listen to takedown notices?

I'm hoping for an unlimited account but I could always buy nothing but blocks, I guess? Newshosting is reputed to be faster (and have better retention) but they use the same Omicron backbone...?

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jun 5, 2022

# ? Jun 5, 2022 03:35

more falafel please: Feb 26, 2005; forums poster

Shumagorath posted:

I've been on TweakNews since I switched off Astraweb waaaay back, but they struggle to crack 25MB/sec and tonight they were dropping to low single digits while BlockNews hits a solid 50MB/sec. Is there a new top provider out there that won't listen to takedown notices?

I'm hoping for an unlimited account but I could always buy nothing but blocks, I guess? Newshosting is reputed to be faster (and have better retention) but they use the same Omicron backbone...?

I'm currently using Eweka and Thundernews, both unlimited accounts. I'm probably gonna dump thundernews when it expires, I pull almost everything through Eweka.

In my experience I have to cycle through providers every 2 years or so, but it's pretty easy to find cheap deals that make that easy.

# ? Jun 5, 2022 07:22

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

Just switched to Eweka as well. Newsdemon wasn�t grabbing single thing over a week old anymore.

There�s some discount codes floating around that make it ~$40/year USD

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# ? May 15, 2024 18:40

SlipperyNipple: Jan 24, 2010

Shumagorath posted:

I've been on TweakNews since I switched off Astraweb waaaay back, but they struggle to crack 25MB/sec and tonight they were dropping to low single digits while BlockNews hits a solid 50MB/sec. Is there a new top provider out there that won't listen to takedown notices?

I'm hoping for an unlimited account but I could always buy nothing but blocks, I guess? Newshosting is reputed to be faster (and have better retention) but they use the same Omicron backbone...?

does tweaknews even have a US server? maybe that is your problem since blocknews is fine. they are both Omicron backbone. just get frugal usenet. you get unlimited omicron plus 1.5 TBs of Usenetfarm access each month. if you pay per year you also get a free blocknews block that you can add to your blocknews account each year. so basically there is tyour main server and backup server together with one sub.

# ? Jun 5, 2022 16:29

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